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Unread 12 Apr 2004, 20:59   #1
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Computing Spec Question

Rightyho....


Is 400 quid reasonable for ....

AMD AthlonXp 2000+
40gig HDD
256Meg DDR Ram
Asus board with onboard VGA/Sound/Lan/usb2 etc (Geforce 4mx 440 nforce2)
Floppy
Keyboard/Mouse/Speakers
Oh and a Case.



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p.s. i dont want 'its a crap idea to have onboard etc'. Just want to know as a 'base level' most basic Pc whether thats a good deal or not.

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Rightyho....


Is 400 quid reasonable for ....

AMD AthlonXp 2000+
40gig HDD
256Meg DDR Ram
Asus board with onboard VGA/Sound/Lan/usb2 etc (Geforce 4mx 440 nforce2)
Floppy
Keyboard/Mouse/Speakers
Oh and a Case.



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p.s. i dont want 'its a crap idea to have onboard etc'. Just want to know as a 'base level' most basic Pc whether thats a good deal or not.

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bit expensive tbh, why ?
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Re: Computing Spec Question

Infact heres the other specs....


Mid Range :

Chieftec Dragon Case,
DVD RW
80gig Wd HDD
P4 2.6ghz
512meg DDR
XFX Geforce Card
19" monitor
Speakers/Keyboard/Mouse



650 quid.



OR


high Spec :

Coolermaster Wavemaster Case
P4 2.6 ghz
WD 200gig HDD
512meg DDR
8x DVDRW
XFX 5700
KB/Mouse
Logitech 6.1 Surround speakers


W/TFT = £1200
W/19" CRT = £1100
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Re: Computing Spec Question

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bit expensive tbh, why ?
im curious as to what is seen as acceptable nowadays because tbh ive lost all track. I havnt purchased a pc from a proper dealer in ages.
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i can build a better one for 255
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Re: Computing Spec Question

how?
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like that ^
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for another 50 quid or so could double the ram and put it in a better case.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

your missing the 17" monitor
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Re: Computing Spec Question

sorry yes. a 17" monitor is included in that price.
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add 80 quid.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

ok.


for a "pre built" system is it decent or not. if you had no clue about how to put it together and didnt want to learn.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

Jammy, how much money are you willing to spend?

That way we can price you a decent one and you can go out and compare.

Seems you need a 17" monitor, although I recommend at least a Flat screen CRT and some speakers right? 2.1, 4.1 or 5.1?

What about Optical drives?
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for a "pre built" system is it decent or not. if you had no clue about how to put it together and didnt want to learn.
well its a bit of a wank system to begin with tbh, the ram should be double if not quadrupled, and it needs a much better graphics card.

that aside, you generally cant get a spec that low (heh) built anymore

but if you could, it'd probably be about 300-350 or so.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

it was more for my gfs brothers friend.

im not entirely sure what spec he wants so im going to pitch 3 different ones too him at those prices.

Obviously there is some 'margin' in the prices i gave.

Im trying to 'gauge' reponse. Obviously most of you here could build it yourself for less but im curious to see what people thought who might not know.

Theres also the problem of Windows. That adds another 70 odd quid onto the cost.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

On-board sound/lan/usb (usb especially) aren't bad, they're good. It's onboard graphics that is bad, because it shares the system ram.

Building PC's is easy. Really easy. Really really easy, as long as you're not an imbecile.

And if you're willing to merely have a 17" monitor, you could get a PC of higher spec than the 'High Spec' one for a cost under the medium spec one.
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If you want to fleece someone, then include a DVDRW always. They sound expensive, yet cost about £70.
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its probably better to get a pre-built one

I can recommend Mesh, bought 3 comps from them

£586 http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/matrix_m_1.htm

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Re: Computing Spec Question

I can sell you a P4 1.8, 512 meg rambus 800, 160gig hd, GeForce 3 Ti200, Soundblaster Live! Platinum, CDRW/DVD for £250.

2 Years old, no warranty, but I'll stick on whatever programs you want as well, heh.
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Re: Computing Spec Question

Ah, Rambus. Oh how Intel loved you, and how ignored by everyone else you were.
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