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12 Apr 2008, 04:06
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that one dude
Join Date: Jan 2005
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does PA seem so dead compared to when i last played?
i havent played since around r16 and it seems like there aren't NEARLY as many players, irc is usually dead, and the forums are dead - maybe like one post a day. whats going on here?
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12 Apr 2008, 05:47
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DDK
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Englandshire
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Re: Why...
theres nob all players left
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12 Apr 2008, 09:48
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Why...
One post a day? You must be reading a different forum than I am.
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12 Apr 2008, 17:05
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Re: Why...
Start a(nother) thread about 1up vs exilition then.
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12 Apr 2008, 21:56
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Jack In The Box
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Location: Where you live
Posts: 112
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by zebra
Start a(nother) thread about 1up vs exilition then.
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Oh yeah. That would be hell-a-fun
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13 Apr 2008, 07:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 295
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Re: Why...
Not enough n00bs anymore. And the ones that probably would have something interesting to say have either been flamed, or banned out of this forum
And now that there's no private gals, n00bs catches up with veterans too fast.
Most likely i think we need more players, to make it chaotic enough to be fun. Honestly i think we need more alliances like Asc, last round. Compared to this round, i think Asc made the difference. Atleast i find this round boring, since ppl hardly whine anymore
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13 Apr 2008, 20:01
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Re: Why...
Can't say I didn't try...
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13 Apr 2008, 23:50
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NewDawn Dinosaur
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Soaring where angels fear to fly
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Re: Why...
Why these forums are dead probably has more reasons but one of them are the moderators on these forums, and sorry, you too Lokken. As much as I like you as a person, I do not like the way these forums are moderated.
When someone tries to write something to liven up the forum, for instance in this thread, then it immediatly gets closed down. I don't see why that shouldn't be posted on AD. Those people saying it should be posted on PD probably didn't even bother to read it.
In fact, every thread that stops being 100% dead-serious is deleted, everyone that tries to be funny is banned or censored.
Meanwhile everyone is moaning about freedom of speech in China!
I mean, this is a game lads, a game. People play it and read these forums to waste their spare time. Stop being so tight-arsed about it, and then maybe people will bother again to read and post here, which wouldn't be bad for the rapidly declining playerbase.
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14 Apr 2008, 00:13
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break it down!
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,087
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Re: Why...
at least he banned Stoom...
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14 Apr 2008, 02:18
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Come Closer, I Have Candy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vast Regions of Space Without a Lifejacket
Posts: 213
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Re: Why...
Ive been away from PA for a few months and I am a bit surprised to see that the issues have not changed. I am frankly worried that if I buy credits I might not get compensation from Jolt should the game go under (though I was happy to see that the current player numbers overall have stayed about the same since r23).
Free play or bust
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14 Apr 2008, 09:44
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 2,220
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Re: Why...
can someone plz make a troll account and go post some completely useless, not understandable rubble, while still being able to piss people off?
plz?
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14 Apr 2008, 15:01
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Hibernating
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Team Kesha
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Re: Why...
I think the deadness of this forum has multiple causes:
1) A lot of the old frequent posters that made the board alive don't post anymore. I kinda miss it when Kjeldoran was posting +-15 posts a day (though at the time i really hated reading them). There were alot of characters on this forum and when they left hardly anybody actually stepped up.
2) Alliances don't publicly trashtalk to eachother on forums anymore. Most of the time when there is actually a post about a war between certain alliances hc's forbid their members to even post in the thread.
3) Alot of players hardly ever read the forums or post on the forums.
Mainly because it is considered elitist. New people that do post on the forums are hardly welcomed with open arms.
4) Alot of people consider these forums as Ascendancy's little personal playground. Hardly ever is there a thread created that doesn't result in certain people either trolling the crap out of it or going wildly offtopic with posts like: Planetarion is all about Ascendancy ...
This is not what the general playerbase of planetarion is dying to read, yet it happens all the time.
+ (and no offence to JBG and Lokken) having Ascendancy moderators doesn't really improve the situation.
+ I also agree with what Riddim said in his post and I have no idea why Kenny's thread needed to be closed. There have been far far worse threads that were allowed to remain open.
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14 Apr 2008, 20:26
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that one dude
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: Why...
i vote that to liven things up a bit everyone outside of top ten should block together and take out like ND or NoX or somethin... ya know? could you imagine like PATSA, Redemption, ASS, Hidden Agenda, Howling Rain and F-Crew taking out Jenova or somethin? ha i can see it now - theyd be like "you got PHHRASS-Fcukd"
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14 Apr 2008, 20:33
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Why...
I can primarily see them crashing a lot.
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14 Apr 2008, 20:45
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break it down!
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Why...
They'd still win due to sheer weight of numbers
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14 Apr 2008, 23:38
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The Original Carebear
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: Why...
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They'd still win due to sheer weight of numbers
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Organising a mass of players like that would be a logistical nightmare, the efficiency would be so low that it wouldn't be feasible at all. Not for more than a few days at most, anyway. Not with the amount of good HC/Officer material currently in the game.
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3 May 2008, 14:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by exblade
i vote that to liven things up a bit everyone outside of top ten should block together and take out like ND or NoX or somethin... ya know? could you imagine like PATSA, Redemption, ASS, Hidden Agenda, Howling Rain and F-Crew taking out Jenova or somethin? ha i can see it now - theyd be like "you got PHHRASS-Fcukd"
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this actually shouldn't be that hard to organise
with two active commanders of every alliance in one channel.
and i know every of those alliances have atleast two competent commanders to help organise this.
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3 May 2008, 18:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 279
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Re: Why...
you set it up exblade and i'll come with you
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3 May 2008, 23:24
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 146
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Re: Why...
to be fair tho with PATSA on board should we just not insta win?? must be some kind of function delete roids or delete ships oh wait there is a delete account button
im all for this idea! closing planets to get redemption to #1 ftw!!!
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4 May 2008, 21:50
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
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Re: Why...
do what myself and a few others have done... join ogame.org.. pa should take a few of the features from there.. its actually a really enjoyable game :/ and ive only been playing for a few days. when i login to pa now its so damn boring and slow maybe some realtime tick stuff? resources per second etc instead of "on tick" stuff
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5 May 2008, 19:51
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 253
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Re: Why...
Never happen! the small allainces like f-crew and so on would never be able to co exist long enough to pull off any kind of coalition because they'd start arguing.
At the very best it would last a day or two before lack of success would force them to fall apart.
And finally two more important points!
1- You don't have to kill jenova tbh they'll fall apart under their own steam
2- if any alliance would warrant such a coalition why aren't we talking about denial (oh yeah i know why! people are too scared to lose!)
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5 May 2008, 20:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by Vladel
Never happen! the small allainces like f-crew and so on would never be able to co exist long enough to pull off any kind of coalition because they'd start arguing.
At the very best it would last a day or two before lack of success would force them to fall apart.
And finally two more important points!
1- You don't have to kill jenova tbh they'll fall apart under their own steam
2- if any alliance would warrant such a coalition why aren't we talking about denial (oh yeah i know why! people are too scared to lose!)
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1- Falling appart, as in members that cant handle pressure leaving? /me pokes a certain dude he quotes...
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5 May 2008, 20:15
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 253
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Re: Why...
I knew that'd get a reply :P
How's u tobbe?
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5 May 2008, 20:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North
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Re: Why...
good, keeping the fort with the ones worth keeping it with -_-
u ?
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5 May 2008, 21:07
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by Vladel
Never happen! the small allainces like f-crew and so on would never be able to co exist long enough to pull off any kind of coalition because they'd start arguing.
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Actually i don't think all the small alliances would start arguing alot.
i consider the commanders of ass, redemption and hr to be very loyal to play with and fun players to talk to.
but i doubt this would ever happen though, but would be very cool.
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6 May 2008, 00:42
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Registered Awesome Person
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,676
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by Veedeejem!
4) Alot of people consider these forums as Ascendancy's little personal playground. Hardly ever is there a thread created that doesn't result in certain people either trolling the crap out of it or going wildly offtopic with posts like: Planetarion is all about Ascendancy ...
This is not what the general playerbase of planetarion is dying to read, yet it happens all the time.
+ (and no offence to JBG and Lokken) having Ascendancy moderators doesn't really improve the situation.
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If the other alliance HCs allowed their members to post then you wouldn't get a predominantly Ascendancy/ND userbase on here. It's not Ascendancy's fault that there's hardly anyone else to post.
And I'm not part of Ascendancy, nor have I ever been. The moderation of this forum is excellent and has been for a long time. When threads pop up that are Ascendancy-based I keep a close eye on the moderation and ensure that it's unbiased. In fact, I'd say that Asc posters are the most closely monitored on this forum. Lokken has repeatedly given bans to Asc posters, including one to Stoom only a couple of weeks ago.
It's not lokken/JBG who have a case to answer, not at all. The problem is the alliances refusing to use the forum - which makes no sense at all.
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18 May 2008, 18:32
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Hamster
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Crewe, England
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by HeimdallR
Actually i don't think all the small alliances would start arguing alot.
i consider the commanders of ass, redemption and hr to be very loyal to play with and fun players to talk to.
but i doubt this would ever happen though, but would be very cool.
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I don't think it would be so much arguing but there would be disagreements. There is that old saying "too many cooks spoil the broth" and that is often true in pa. The bigger the target you ant to take on the more smaller alliances you need and that means the more alliance hc's that have to get together and agree and organise things, that can be hard enough on its own but all it takes is a single hc to have an attitude or think they are superior and it gets worse.
You need to really have a target in mind thats not too much bigger so you can keep the numbers managable and then either make sure all alliances involved are on a fairly equal footing or do what happens with some of the top blocks and have alliances who are willing to to be little more than puppets as they believe that its worthwhile putting themselves out for the long term boost from the glory it may bring
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18 May 2008, 18:36
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Hamster
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Crewe, England
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by furball
If the other alliance HCs allowed their members to post then you wouldn't get a predominantly Ascendancy/ND userbase on here. It's not Ascendancy's fault that there's hardly anyone else to post.
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To a degree it is though, its all well and good trying and get members to post but when certain alliances members take great pride in spewing abuse left right and center getting them to continue posting is nigh on impossible.
You know that at F-Crew we have tried a number of times to get more members posting but even for some extremely good posts they got set upon by groups of forum posters via replies, rep and pm
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18 May 2008, 18:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by furball
If the other alliance HCs allowed their members to post then you wouldn't get a predominantly Ascendancy/ND userbase on here. It's not Ascendancy's fault that there's hardly anyone else to post.
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does any alliance actually ban their members from posting?
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18 May 2008, 19:20
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 425
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by Vladel
Never happen! the small allainces like f-crew and so on would never be able to co exist long enough to pull off any kind of coalition because they'd start arguing.
At the very best it would last a day or two before lack of success would force them to fall apart.
And finally two more important points!
1- You don't have to kill jenova tbh they'll fall apart under their own steam
2- if any alliance would warrant such a coalition why aren't we talking about denial (oh yeah i know why! people are too scared to lose!)
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I think of course we all know Jenova failed (for reasons only themselves will know to be honest within the alliance) it didnt help with such people jumping ship, especially to the enemy alliance (wont name them but they know how dissapointed i am as they were the ones i sent to Jenova.) But, although they of course didnt win, still a handful of their members ended up in the top 100 ranks so fair play to them. And did quite a few impressive gal raids.
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18 May 2008, 19:24
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by wakey
To a degree it is though, its all well and good trying and get members to post but when certain alliances members take great pride in spewing abuse left right and center getting them to continue posting is nigh on impossible.
You know that at F-Crew we have tried a number of times to get more members posting but even for some extremely good posts they got set upon by groups of forum posters via replies, rep and pm
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I only remember the one main time that you did that, and you should remember that I backed it fully.
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does any alliance actually ban their members from posting?
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18 May 2008, 19:31
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: Why...
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Originally Posted by Veedeejem!
I think the deadness of this forum has multiple causes:
1) A lot of the old frequent posters that made the board alive don't post anymore. I kinda miss it when Kjeldoran was posting +-15 posts a day (though at the time i really hated reading them). There were alot of characters on this forum and when they left hardly anybody actually stepped up.
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People quit. They move on in life. Why you chose a pretty terrible poster (although he became pretty decent after I banned him a few times) I don't know but this just happens.
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2) Alliances don't publicly trashtalk to eachother on forums anymore. Most of the time when there is actually a post about a war between certain alliances hc's forbid their members to even post in the thread.
3) Alot of players hardly ever read the forums or post on the forums.
Mainly because it is considered elitist. New people that do post on the forums are hardly welcomed with open arms.
4) Alot of people consider these forums as Ascendancy's little personal playground. Hardly ever is there a thread created that doesn't result in certain people either trolling the crap out of it or going wildly offtopic with posts like: Planetarion is all about Ascendancy ...
This is not what the general playerbase of planetarion is dying to read, yet it happens all the time.
+ (and no offence to JBG and Lokken) having Ascendancy moderators doesn't really improve the situation.
+ I also agree with what Riddim said in his post and I have no idea why Kenny's thread needed to be closed. There have been far far worse threads that were allowed to remain open.
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I think unless you are particularly good at making an argument, I would not advise coming on AD from an alliance leader's point of view. HC's are probably doing the right thing for their alliance keeping their members under control as there is an extent that there are so many in Ascendancy capable of putting forward an eloquent riposte, its not worth the risk. Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do about certain people being good, apart from try to match the others.
As for what you said about the moderation team, I think I get what you mean. Although bias in moderation doesn't really exist in reality, there is a symbolism in myself and JBG being moderators. Unlike furball, I am going to address your point. JBG was chosen before asc even existed and he chose me when I flew the ND flag. In addition we go at length to explain our decisions and a number of ascendancy have been banned for being shit. I'm not sure there is anything more we can do. On top of that, there have been (rare) occasions where I have down right disagreed with JBG about in game politics on the forum and we've just debated it because we can disagree without being disagreeable.
I encourage everyone to post, I think if people think content isn't relevant to them, they should make something of their own that is. The internet is what you make of it. I first participated on AD because i wanted to get involved and get interested; apathy don't get you nowhere on this forum; if people's HC are stopping that and want to change it, well then they need to decide whether they should be part of an organisation that does allow it.
I appreciate lots what you say here, but in turn I would reply that the moderators can only go so far. If you report posts that you think are trolls, we're far more likely to moderate things than without them, as it makes us think again about posts.
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NewDawn Dinosaur
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Soaring where angels fear to fly
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Re: Why...
I don't think you are especially Asc-biased when moderating this forum, but I hope you read my post too Lokken.
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19 May 2008, 01:41
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Bi-Winning
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: nfi
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Re: Why...
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You know that at F-Crew we have tried a number of times to get more members posting but even for some extremely good posts they got set upon by groups of forum posters via replies, rep and pm
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Sux but who cares about rep as long as you get your point across, and pm??? wth? they pm ppl also, sounds a bit like anybody doing that should be set upon themselves.
Err btw is their no rules on the negative repping thing? because somebody giving it out just because they dislike somebody's post seems a bit shit, maybe if they had some sort of valid point whereas the poster had directly insulted/tried to cause harm, rather than it being a subject with which they disagree with or because the spelling was a little off in that post it wouldn't be so bad.
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Bi-Winning
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: nfi
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Re: Why...
Heh yeah i read through my post lots looking for any sort of mistake. Feel free not to point them out because quite frankly i couldn't give a toss.
Ps: New forum users are nice ppl sometimes and don't deserve the you don't belong here so we'll just give you grief and hope you go away approach.
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