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Unread 6 Apr 2007, 23:49   #1
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Talking Pack and CT rumors

Seems like everywhere one looks there are those 2 names together in the rumors, talk and all. Surely WP and CT wouldnt need to be so close so soon would they?

Is it the WP propaganda machine getting warmed up or?

and the plot thickens



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Re: Pack and CT rumors

It's just Angels looking for a pre-round excuse for failing at another round of Planetarion. Good luck anyways, you'll probably need a lot of it.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

Fairly sure we have absolutely no affiliation with WP to date. CT go into each and every round with a clean political slate. We have no Pre-NAPs or Allys before the round starts and that is a fact. So nice try, but your talking rubbish chum.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

WTF damn those rumours spread fast. hahaha
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

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Seems like everywhere one looks there are those 2 names together in the rumors, talk and all. Surely WP and CT wouldnt need to be so close so soon would they?
/me waves his hand
These aren´t the names you´re looking for
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

Classic Angelolz.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

Well if it hasn't happened, this post goes some way to assuring it.

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Re: Pack and CT rumors

ha ha ha ha

everywhere corner we turn Angels are making out pack to be the biggest threat and Pack making out Angels as the #1 contenders. Think well just sit back and let them go at it
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

or they gang up on ct for the hell of it
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

'politics' or 'lollertics', I think I know which one Angels chose
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

There's a few certainties in Planetarion. Every round more players quit, Barrow dissapears halfway through the round and Angels shoots itself in the foot.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

Can we have a round where politics is run by sane people and not people having constant paranoia please?
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

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It's quite reasonable actually. Angels have recruited some pretty decent score-whoring players and you'll probably see them in the lead at the start of next round (unless they keep players out of tag which will just make everyone more suspicious). Remember that Angels initially stated they were only going to play as a small alliance before deciding maybe they could actually win this round at some point. Pragmatically then Wolfpack and CT, the other two alliances you can presume are at least aiming at #1 will have to hit them. Given the small nature of the playerbase this has probably been brought up by various people at various points to give it enough of a rumour momentum and could easily have been brought up by the respective HCs if/when they were talking to each other. Luckily enough for CT nobody really respects them enough after last round for them to be unquestionably the primary targets this round.

Personally I retain immense faith in Angels failing amidst bitter recriminations and mutual accusations of def-whoring this round regardless of the political playing field though. Maybe they can recruit themselves a block or something though!
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it's all ture me and free are in bed togetter
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

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ha ha ha ha

everywhere corner we turn Angels are making out pack to be the biggest threat and Pack making out Angels as the #1 contenders. Think well just sit back and let them go at it

That would be an excellent decision.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

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It's just Angels looking for a pre-round excuse for failing at another round of Planetarion. Good luck anyways, you'll probably need a lot of it.
Actually this rumour doesnt have to be done by Angels. Its commen fact pack have been running around pming most top alliances claiming Angels are a threat with these bgs joining them. So it wouldnt suprise me if CT allied with pack, as thats what pack are trying to achieve im sure (which i mentioned yesterday on the other thread)

As Ass said above i would love instead to see finally a war between 2 top alliances. Instead of seeing other alliances join the frey like jackals to collect of the dead meat.
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Re: Pack and CT rumors

And what exactly would make Angels stronger then what CT and\or WP might already be? CT might have not been superior last round, but they stood the round out fighting with incs, and they won it. And thats what it takes to be the best ally, if other allies turned the pace up - so could have CT, I predicted their win a long long time before it happened.

So what does make Angels stronger then CT and\or WP - as I'm thinking about what ally to join for next round. Maybe I won't go for the strongest but some clues and thoughts around this situation would be nice. Because any alliance can have a BG.
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And what exactly would make Angels stronger then what CT and\or WP might already be? CT might have not been superior last round, but they stood the round out fighting with incs, and they won it. And thats what it takes to be the best ally, if other allies turned the pace up - so could have CT, I predicted their win a long long time before it happened.

So what does make Angels stronger then CT and\or WP - as I'm thinking about what ally to join for next round. Maybe I won't go for the strongest but some clues and thoughts around this situation would be nice. Because any alliance can have a BG.
Who is this post addressed at?
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Could be somewhat pointed to your post, but its more of an opinion meant for discussion as the feel I got from the thread was that Angels were considered to be stronger then both WP\CT, thus WC had the urge to block against them. Only meant for open discussion.
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Could be somewhat pointed to your post, but its more of an opinion meant for discussion as the feel I got from the thread was that Angels were considered to be stronger then both WP\CT, thus WC had the urge to block against them. Only meant for open discussion.
I see. The obvious answer to your question would be the quality of players recruited.
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I see. The obvious answer to your question would be the quality of players recruited.
And on whose intel would that be based on? And as far as I know CT got a pretty darn nice member list aswell - and although I don't expect all the same from WP I'm guessing they got a more then promising crew from what they've had earlier rounds. And how do WP know of this, bg?
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And on whose intel would that be based on? And as far as I know CT got a pretty darn nice member list aswell - and although I don't expect all the same from WP I'm guessing they got a more then promising crew from what they've had earlier rounds. And how do WP know of this, bg?
You want me to tell you about the bg?
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It's quite reasonable actually. Angels have recruited some pretty decent score-whoring players and you'll probably see them in the lead at the start of next round (unless they keep players out of tag which will just make everyone more suspicious).
The fact they will slam their players into tag, means they will get to number 1. Bar possible sarcasm (and taking into account your experience at monitoring score improvements) you can't say that such leads at the start will have any affect on the race for the final number one spot.



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Pragmatically then Wolfpack and CT, the other two alliances you can presume are at least aiming at #1 will have to hit them
If they're that small, they won't have to hit them.
If they're big enough to worry CT and WP, hitting them MIGHT (given political and strategic interests) not be a good idea (according to the round composition in terms of rank/alliance size itself etc.).



--Can I ask you if it was a WP statement that made you think they could be contesting for the win, because an alliance returning to such small playerbase would find recreating an alliance (that needs to be possibly stronger than the WP of old to win) that COULD get to number one a VERY hard task in the first round back.

If they do it would surely be one of the greatest victories in pa (if you take into account the work done by HCs), pending a lack of backstabbing/fagging about.


--What's all this hype about the manner in which CT obtained their maiden victory? I cant be ARSED to read fictitious posts, and your log doesnt contain your personal opinions much, because as good you are at writing your logbook, you do so with proffessionality.

Can someone write a well opinionated (without being a bitch) SHORT summary for me?

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The fact they will slam their players into tag, means they will get to number 1. Bar possible sarcasm (and taking into account your experience at monitoring score improvements) you can't say that such leads at the start will have any affect on the race for the final number one spot.
If the number one alliance at the start of the round isn't hit then by the end of the round they'll almost certainly still be winning.

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If they're that small, they won't have to hit them.
If they're big enough to worry CT and WP, hitting them MIGHT (given political and strategic interests) not be a good idea (according to the round composition in terms of rank/alliance size itself etc.).
Because we all know how much success alliances have seen in PA by avoiding hitting the strongest alliance am I right? Of course there are other alliances out there and other possibilities but if they are convinced of each other's quality, and the danger of angels, it makes far more sense for them to kill off any other possible competing alliances for the #1 spot before taking each other on.

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It's based on what I've generally picked up from talking to people, the quality of some of the people involved and the overall lack of a really dominant alliance.

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Can someone write a well opinionated (without being a bitch) SHORT summary for me?

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It's objectively the narrowest margin of victory in the history of PAX. Both in terms of pure score and as a percentage difference.
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And what exactly would make Angels stronger then what CT and\or WP might already be? CT might have not been superior last round, but they stood the round out fighting with incs, and they won it. And thats what it takes to be the best ally, if other allies turned the pace up - so could have CT, I predicted their win a long long time before it happened.

So what does make Angels stronger then CT and\or WP - as I'm thinking about what ally to join for next round. Maybe I won't go for the strongest but some clues and thoughts around this situation would be nice. Because any alliance can have a BG.
I have to say, after that post CT doesn't look stronger than Angels. Congratulations to Wolfpack for winning round 21.
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I have to say, after that post CT doesn't look stronger than Angels. Congratulations to Wolfpack for winning round 21.
Not of course showing any disrespect to Pack as i like a lot of their members. But i dont see them winning this round. Maybe coming runner up but not winning the round. I think it will be either CT or Angels.
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The word 'strong' got a whole new meaning when used on Angels
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Angels have to many bgs they will rule and maybe even kill em off by ship jumping which would put angels finding the round hard. abit like when they kicked one or two of the gous members out and they all left...
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In all honesty though, where do you see these BGs ship jumping too?
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Hmnnn.. still no answer.. but nice discussion about CT and WP tho. I guess its just like its supposed to be just rumor's.

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When is the last time a 2 vs 1 scenario worked, when both alliances on one side want to end #1?
I think we will have a situation much similar to last rounds'. With WP and Angels being the new VGN and Destiny.
Unless there is a fourth alliance willing to step up to the plate, or the alliances 4th - 10th actually get some balls and decide to actually do something to make the round interesting, instead of just complaining about it.
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Unless there is a fourth alliance willing to step up to the plate, or the alliances 4th - 10th actually get some balls and decide to actually do something to make the round interesting, instead of just complaining about it.
Define 'make the round interesting'. Do you expect them to gun for #1? This seems unreasonable to say the least.
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Define 'make the round interesting'. Do you expect them to gun for #1? This seems unreasonable to say the least.
Not saying i support or i dont support Gio2k on this, but i can definitely see how it would benefit a smaller alliance to hit the top alliances. At the end of the day if they hit the top alliances, defence will be channeled to defend against their rivals to stop them getting roids/XP, leaving a vastly more clear run for the smaller alliance to get through.
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When is the last time a 2 vs 1 scenario worked, when both alliances on one side want to end #1?
I think we will have a situation much similar to last rounds'. With WP and Angels being the new VGN and Destiny.
Unless there is a fourth alliance willing to step up to the plate, or the alliances 4th - 10th actually get some balls and decide to actually do something to make the round interesting, instead of just complaining about it.
People should take a look at round 6. It worked nicely there with having 3 contenders. But then again, nowadays alliances are simply shit so we won't see another round of that kind.
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Most likely politics will follow last rounds example and we get 3 galraiding allies who claim on having fought heavy wars all round.
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CT Angels will go after each other. WP will stay neutral most of the round just hitting random gals while being #1, later on they will lose that position when CT will go after WP.
reason why i think CT will win is they are only contender that has won and want to win again, and the rest is just shit
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Most likely politics will follow last rounds example and we get 3 galraiding allies who claim on having fought heavy wars all round.
You forgot to add "and another 7 whinging about it".
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You forgot to add "and another 7 whinging about it".
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Well thats what your pretty much doing. You have no idea about the fleets that our alliance received/gave out so please shut your noise.
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i cried into my calculator I can tell you that!
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make love not war guys <3
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I'm gonna make roids and war, I only lhuv my roids and ally m8s.
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erm. WP allied to someone is actually odd, considering they are the people that made "Uni-NAPS" famous. I am happy if they are fighting. Even if they need help, at least they are doing something. You know?
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I expect them to hit any top alliance if they feel they are getting away with the round, or if they are stagnating and playing chicken. After all, this is a war game. What do they have to lose? their #4 -10 spot?
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With WPs reputation, I dont think they will nap their way to nr 1, I would bet they war for it.
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With WPs reputation, I dont think they will nap their way to nr 1, I would bet they war for it.
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