Planetarion Forums - [Football] So It Looks Like It's Scolari Then

Stew · 27 Apr 2006, 00:10

Well it's not McLaren!

Surprised?
Happy?
Couldn't care less?

Blastoderm · 27 Apr 2006, 00:17

Not bothered.

Good for England for having a tactical genius but language barrier may be an issue.

Dace · 27 Apr 2006, 00:21

at the end of the day i have literally never been so happy

Phang · 27 Apr 2006, 00:29

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Originally Posted by Dace

at the end of the day i have literally never been so happy

but Scolari's a good coach...

Dace · 27 Apr 2006, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Phang

but Scolari's a good coach...

they should have a :completeindifference: smiley 'cause it would have probably been used by me twice already in this thread

furball · 27 Apr 2006, 00:31

I'm quite pleased. My personal ranking was O'Neill, Scolari, McClaren and then God Helpus so I'm not going to be crying myself to sleep at night over it.

midge5 · 27 Apr 2006, 00:33

Personally I thought Hiddink was the best choice but out of the 5 remaining candidates I reckon Scholari is the best choice.

pig · 27 Apr 2006, 01:57

Im pleased with Scolari I think he can make a good bunch of players play some attractive football and hopefully win at something.

Androme · 27 Apr 2006, 10:01

Excellent news. So predictions for England not doing shit this world cup?

lokken · 27 Apr 2006, 10:33

Don't care.

My club is more important anyway.

Appocomaster · 27 Apr 2006, 11:05

At least Mclaren etc will be able to concentrate on club football and not have all the "will I won't I" stuff hanging over them. It's interesting they chose the only non englishman in the shortlist, but tbh he seems a far better coach than Sven, so it should be good - even if he's not really coached any of the players before. I bet Mclaren will still be hanging around to provide some continunity though :P

Reidy · 27 Apr 2006, 11:15

means Martin O'Neill can come to sunderland

I'd have gone for Big Sam personally... he was never going to get it tho as i doubt his face would fit in at the FA.

Flavius · 27 Apr 2006, 12:00

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Apr 2006, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Reidy

I'd have gone for Big Sam personally..

Big Sam's tactically inflexible and tends to moan on about the referees all the time. Big Phil, on the other hand, punches newspaper hacks.

I know who I'd prefer!

[edit]

Bear in mind that, before Big Phil took over, Brazil were floundering, in danger of not qualifying for the world cup for the first time in their history. That they're now regarded as by far the best attacking force in the world is in no small part due to Scolari advancing the youngsters, like the then obscure Ronaldinho.

Reidy · 27 Apr 2006, 12:48

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Big Sam's tactically inflexible and tends to moan on about the referees all the time. Big Phil, on the other hand, punches newspaper hacks.

all top managers moan about the referees mate, its part of the footballing culture in this country.

As for Sam, i think he can only really play one style with bolton considering the budget they have.
I cant imagine Sam shaping the england team into his bolton forumla.

As for Scolari, i think he had a good tournament to be in charge of brazil, with the majority of european teams struggling to adapt to the climate

eJohn · 27 Apr 2006, 17:43

another mercenary?

Please note also hes not yet agreed on a contract. How embarrassing for England if he turns around and says no.

Kurashima · 27 Apr 2006, 17:58

Im genuinely ecstatic that the FA have single handedly kept an army of nationalistic sports writers in their job for another 4 years, and theyve FA chance of winning anything under this foreign mercenary coach who couldnt give a shit about generating passion among fans or players, he just wants to play defensive minded bollocks and hope his underperforming creative players can do something up front.

If you want an idea of how much the press are going to love/hate this guy, take a look at how the Brazilian press reacted to his defensive tactics in the build up to the 2002 WC.

Maybe his style will suit British players. Who knows.

Dead_Meat · 27 Apr 2006, 18:20

All I'll say is thank f*ck no-one over here knows anything about football so they can't laugh at us making such a shit choice.

Cannon_Fodder · 27 Apr 2006, 18:21

I'm glad Mclaren didn't get it. But if Dein supports Scolari, so do I.

KoeN · 27 Apr 2006, 18:28

ah, the guy who managed Brasil to play that shit it hurt the eyes. yea, good buy.

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Apr 2006, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Kurashima

If you want an idea of how much the press are going to love/hate this guy, take a look at how the Brazilian press reacted to his defensive tactics in the build up to the 2002 WC.

Look how they reacted to him winning the World Cup, and of course they were only there in the first place thanks to him. Look how the portuguese reacted to him taking them to their first final.

Also, for defensive, boring tactics, managing to average 3 goals a game at the world cup aint bad. Hey, but it's a great manager for England, and you're scottish :v:

Ste · 27 Apr 2006, 18:49

i like the way some people are saying Scolari's boring...
look at the other options - Allardyce, Mclaren, Curbishley, O'Neill...
Their teams are hardly exciting are they?

eJohn · 27 Apr 2006, 18:49

the idea that brazil were ever seriously not going to qualify for the WC is media hype, and ludicrous.

"he steered them to the WC with 3 wins from his last 5 games" - holy shit, 3 wins from 5? With brazil? Thats like, impossible!

Hes a very good manager, no doubt. I just thought the engerlish might have had enough of another foreigner running what is supposed to be such a nationalistic pasttime.

Stew · 27 Apr 2006, 19:32

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Originally Posted by eJohn

Hes a very good manager, no doubt. I just thought the engerlish might have had enough of another foreigner running what is supposed to be such a nationalistic pasttime.

But all the English managers are shit.
Or at least not world class.
None of the top 5 teams in the Premiership have an English manager.
It's over 10 years since any of Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea had an English manager (1995 Roy Evans).

Why should we limit ourselves to a sub-world-class-standard manager if we don't have to?

NEWSBOT3 · 27 Apr 2006, 20:21

the press are going to ****ing maul him

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Scolari is by nature remarkably open. He will hold court on such subjects as the fact that he tells his players to commit fouls, his admiration for General Pinochet or his prejudice against homosexuals.

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/4952180.stm

Marilyn Manson · 27 Apr 2006, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Stew

Couldn't care less?

That's the one.

Although I should say that a lot of football fans seem to be retards, based on what I've been hearing. I heard Ian Wright say on the morning news something along the lines of "I'd rather watch us drift in the wilderness for years under an English manager than win the world cup with a foreigner", which is irrational to the point of actually being spastic. A lot of plebs also seem to be saying much the same thing.

I suppose this is why I'm not a football fan. I mean apart from the racism, violence, hooliganism, homophobia and all that, of course.

NEWSBOT3 · 27 Apr 2006, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

That's the one.

Although I should say that a lot of football fans seem to be retards, based on what I've been hearing. I heard Ian Wright say on the morning news something along the lines of "I'd rather watch us drift in the wilderness for years under an English manager than win the world cup with a foreigner", which is irrational to the point of actually being spastic. A lot of plebs also seem to be saying much the same thing.

I suppose this is why I'm not a football fan. I mean apart from the racism, violence, hooliganism, homophobia and all that, of course.

i think its quite hard to be a quiet enjoyer of football and make yourself heard, which is why the 'tards' are more vocal.

it's a shame that the media gives a larger audience to spastics in generally really.

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Apr 2006, 20:34

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Originally Posted by eJohn

the idea that brazil were ever seriously not going to qualify for the WC is media hype, and ludicrous.

"he steered them to the WC with 3 wins from his last 5 games" - holy shit, 3 wins from 5? With brazil? Thats like, impossible!

3 wins from 5 was above average for Brazil in qualifying (their record beforehand was 6-3-4). Brazil beat two of the teams above them, and if they had failed to win even ONE of the matches they won, they would not have qualified. Scolari also kicked out the names that weren't performing.

But obviously being one game away from elimination in a league of 18 games is utterly safe, and anyone who suggests otherwise is causing a blight on humanity and should be tried for treason.

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Apr 2006, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Although I should say that a lot of football fans seem to be retards, based on what I've been hearing.

Every time I've seen a poll, it's been wildly in favour of one of the "good" (ie non english) managers. However, most media outlets are ignoring this, and claiming that the vast majority of people are small minded racists who know nothing about football.

1-X · 28 Apr 2006, 00:00

These English managers who think they have some divine right to the job should leave their clubs and manage minor foreign national teams* first. If they perform beyond expectations, then they can be considered as England candidates.

*like scotland and wales "lol"

furball · 28 Apr 2006, 00:18

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Originally Posted by 1-X

These English managers who think they have some divine right to the job should leave their clubs and manage minor foreign national teams* first. If they perform beyond expectations, then they can be considered as England candidates.

*like scotland and wales "lol"

Why the lol?

Oh

I see what you did there

you're trying to make people think you're joking and that Scotland and Wales aren't minor footballing nations

nice one.

1-X · 28 Apr 2006, 00:28

"lol" is so alien to me, I just can't pull it off (fnar fnar)

furball · 28 Apr 2006, 00:45

You did it fine, I just wouldn't have bothered with the lol

Scotland and Wales are the perfect nations for a trainee England manager to manage. If he makes a good job of it, go him. They're nice and minor, not too important.

midge5 · 28 Apr 2006, 10:16

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Originally Posted by furball

You did it fine, I just wouldn't have bothered with the lol

Scotland and Wales are the perfect nations for a trainee England manager to manage. If he makes a good job of it, go him. They're nice and minor, not too important.

I'm gonna kill you with the pool queue when you turn up later

furball · 28 Apr 2006, 10:18

"cue" not "queue"

Ste · 28 Apr 2006, 10:29

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Originally Posted by furball

"cue" not "queue"

No, he's gonna throw a load of drunk students at you.

Appocomaster · 28 Apr 2006, 11:19

If it's rather overweight people in speedos, they could do quite some damage.

furball · 28 Apr 2006, 16:24

I won at pool anyway. Yet another humiliation heaped on the Welsh, ranked right up there with the appointment of John Redwood as Secretary of State for Wales.

Torz · 28 Apr 2006, 18:05

We can actually produce sucessful managers of our own tho :/

Dante Hicks · 28 Apr 2006, 18:13

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/4955490.stm

Stew · 28 Apr 2006, 18:16

I knew it was too good to be true

pig · 28 Apr 2006, 18:17

My prediction is that he will take the job but only until after portugal have been knocked out of the WC, however he will probably have a gentlemans agreement with the FA until that point. This is because of the gentlemans agreement with the portugese FA prohibiting him to strike a deal until after the WC. We will see. But please no shit curbishley or mclaren to try and make up for it.

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Originally Posted by Big Phil

"There are 20 reporters outside my house now. If that is part of another culture, it is not part of my culture."

Cheers British Media, ****ing cheers.

MrL_JaKiri · 28 Apr 2006, 19:11

Yeah, **** you guys.

KoeN · 28 Apr 2006, 19:16

i wish i was English so i'd have Beckham in my national team and Scolari as coach.

MrL_JaKiri · 28 Apr 2006, 19:24

Nothing like a retarded post to make the day go faster.

Stifler · 28 Apr 2006, 21:38

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Originally Posted by pig

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Phil

"There are 20 reporters outside my house now. If that is part of another culture, it is not part of my culture."

Cheers British Media, ****ing cheers.

idd

they cant do anything right

Appocomaster · 28 Apr 2006, 22:47

We'll see who gets it if he doesn't.
bbc site has some death threat thing going on.

MrL_JaKiri · 28 Apr 2006, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Appocomaster

We'll see who gets it if he doesn't.
bbc site has some death threat thing going on.

Yeah, Portuguese people sent death threats to his family.

Marilyn Manson · 29 Apr 2006, 11:19

heh. They've scared off the one chap who was remotely capable.

eJohn · 29 Apr 2006, 20:27

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Originally Posted by eJohn

another mercenary?

Please note also hes not yet agreed on a contract. How embarrassing for England if he turns around and says no.

holy shit