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26 Oct 2006, 20:51
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so f*cking zen
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[Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
I had a dream last night. In the dream there were these "Baddies" one of whom had a gun. He pointed the gun at me and shot. I was somewhat suprised that i didn't die then i was informed that he hadn't shot to kill. He had actually fired a small ping pong ball sized thing at me which had partially implanted into my leg near my groin (and near the artery there). I asked the guy what it was. Turns out it was an "English bomb".
Now a Polish hostage is a person who has taken themself hostage and threatens to kill themself. According to my dream an English bomb is so named because it is very polite. When activated it explodes into the person (the majority of the bomb is actually shielding which is used to focus the small explosive charge), destroying the nearby artery. As such it kills the intended person and nobody else. The very definition of polite. *
Now either i have a fantastic imagination (and am just generally great to make up something like that all on my own whilst asleep no less) OR English bombs actually exist. I was just wondering if anybody here had heard of them.
I've tried googling / using wiki but no joy.
So does anyone know?
*in my dream the bomb also had a locator device thing built into it. Not sure if this detail is necessary but i thought i'd give it none-the-less.
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26 Oct 2006, 21:47
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BlueTuba
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
Hi Mi5 It's This One You Want
^^^^^^^^^^
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26 Oct 2006, 22:22
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
...im kinda interested in what happened in the rest of the dream
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26 Oct 2006, 22:54
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Mr. Blobby
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
A lot of explosives use shielding in order to direct the actual explosion into a certain direction. Generally bombs that are attached to vehicles, but I believe also the explosives used in demolition, use wrapping in order to direct the majority of the force into the object that they are trying to blow up, maximizing their effectiveness.
What you described, however, mostly seems like a regular dum dum bullet, although it doesn't really use an explosion to create a similar effect.
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26 Oct 2006, 23:01
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
I had a dream last night about a group of orphens who were performing a play in Buckingham Palace in order to "get inside". They then were breaking into the secret underground bunker section in order to get to the valuables, in order to steal the Queen Mother's sapphires, and a collection of dinosaur skeletons.
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27 Oct 2006, 10:23
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mmm.. pills
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
your bomb sounds interesting in concept... but I forsee a minor flaw.
if it doesn't kill on impact, and is only intended to kill you later after embedment, why wouldn't you simply dislodge the pellet from your leg thereby avoiding death?
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27 Oct 2006, 11:05
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Darling
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dace
According to my dream an English bomb is so named because it is very polite. When activated it explodes into the person (the majority of the bomb is actually shielding which is used to focus the small explosive charge), destroying the nearby artery. As such it kills the intended person and nobody else. The very definition of polite.
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You're looking for a bullet.
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27 Oct 2006, 17:40
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so f*cking zen
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
Quote:
Originally Posted by djbass
your bomb sounds interesting in concept... but I forsee a minor flaw.
if it doesn't kill on impact, and is only intended to kill you later after embedment, why wouldn't you simply dislodge the pellet from your leg thereby avoiding death?
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It's kinda hard to dislodge and anyways the guy who fired it was following me around (the locator was just incase i tried to run away and hide so he could find me quickly before i got a chance to dislodge it). There was probably some sort of booby trap thing involved with it as well if you did try and dislodge it *shrug*
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27 Oct 2006, 18:16
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Lucky
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
i can't remember what i dreamed but i did have sex. oh and the next morning i threw a couch off our roof-terrace (and a load of other stuff that's been rotting away there for 3/4 years).
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27 Oct 2006, 20:24
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Old Man O Deh *****s
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
Sounds like a shaped charge to me.
If you detonate a big load of dynamite, the force goes all over the shop and damage is mainly caused by overpressure and shrapnel, which is good for killing people, but no so great for killing tanks/bunkers/making holes in things.
One way for a shaped charge to work is to use different types of explosive with different burn rates. The quicker burning explosives form a blast wave that then directs the force of the slower burning explosive in a particular direction, shaping the explosive force of the larger, but slower burning explosive charge into a more concentrated beam.
Shaped charges are a lot more effective if the first stage also melts a quantity of high-melting point metal, which is then blasted forward by the force of the secondary. This molten metal stream then has the ability to melt armour/walls/things before penetrating and then splurging all over whatever is inside, followed by the jet blast of the explosive itself.
Suffice to say, that's quite effective really...
Wikipedia has a whole bunch of material on it, I just got mine from reading military magazines and Tom Clancy books.
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29 Oct 2006, 03:33
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Registered User
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
You have a great imagination loving it i doubt they actually exist but that doesnt mean someone shouldnt try to invent one now does it
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30 Oct 2006, 13:33
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
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Originally Posted by Dom32
You have a great imagination loving it i doubt they actually exist but that doesnt mean someone shouldnt try to invent one now does it
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I think the Geneva Convention might have something to say about it
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30 Oct 2006, 14:50
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
In the stories I have read such an explosive is usually imbeded in the skull in the back of the head or in the front near the jugular.
Most of the stories involve the explosive being used as a means of control to have a person do something or face death.
I also found a forum thread talking about terrorist plots related to explosives being surgically inserted in the human body. The discussion starts about entry #40.
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31 Oct 2006, 17:06
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Old Man O Deh *****s
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
When I worked for the government, reading military magazines was part of the job to stay 'current', most of the above is what I remember from fifteen years ago.
Clancy may be over-dramatic, but he knows his tech pretty well. Read Red Storm Rising for all you need to really know about modern ground combat.
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1 Nov 2006, 01:26
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USS Oklahoma
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Re: [Dreams] Using PA as a research tool
In essence the dream was about having a lump near your groin which could go off at any moment killing you.
Performance anxiety!
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