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Re: r67 who will win
Why is it not ok? If benneh and inted all those roids and not lost them then it would be bad still? Should no one be allowed to int roids? Should we all play in 1 uniform style? How many roids does the average ct/pen or HR player int a round? Are they all cheating too? How about ult when they int back to 300 roids every other day after being bashed by 5 alliances for 700 ticks? Are they also in the wrong?
How about when the Brazilians used attack xp and a technical loophole in xan stats and xp formula to win a round with 100% attacking? Heaven forbid someone does the reverse and uses def xp mechanics...
If it was against the rules he would be closed. If it was going to be changed then appoco would have said or eluded to it here already.
If Norse are stupid enough to attack for 20 roids at a time and feed benneh xp then it's them you should be crying too.
This tactic is also completely viable in alliance as well, and could even be more profitable as alliance on average have more consistent incs
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25 Jun 2016, 16:19
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Why is it not ok? If benneh and inted all those roids and not lost them then it would be bad still? Should no one be allowed to int roids? Should we all play in 1 uniform style? How many roids does the average ct/pen or HR player int a round? Are they all cheating too? How about ult when they int back to 300 roids every other day after being bashed by 5 alliances for 700 ticks? Are they also in the wrong?
How about when the Brazilians used attack xp and a technical loophole in xan stats and xp formula to win a round with 100% attacking? Heaven forbid someone does the reverse and uses def xp mechanics...
If it was against the rules he would be closed. If it was going to be changed then appoco would have said or eluded to it here already.
If Norse are stupid enough to attack for 20 roids at a time and feed benneh xp then it's them you should be crying too.
This tactic is also completely viable in alliance as well, and could even be more profitable as alliance on average have more consistent incs
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Initiating roids to give them away to other planets has been a reason for closure in the past.
Why isnt it a closeable offense this time?
If it was say someone like CarDi who was doing what that gal is doing, and a bunch of his Apprime/LDK friends kept repeatively launch fleets that gave CarDi score and got roids in return, do you think he wouldve been able to remain open for 600 ticks?
Now im not saying that Benneh, or anyone have secretly been doing agreements behind closed doors to get more incommings, but its kind of dubious that if i wanted Benneh to win i could sign up a planet and send fleets to his gal?
Ive not been monitoring this gal that close, but ive noticed a few planets sending two digits amount of fleets at this gal. Not having all intel on these planets, or knowing what their past relationship to Benneh is, i can only wonder if there could be any connection.
Look at 4:1:4, he has sent like 20 fleets just the last 150 ticks, and prolly donating 800k score alone in this period.
If he is his friend, ex BP mate, allie mate, or what ever, he would surely be acting as a XP farm for benneh, wich opens up for all kind of abuse.
Im not saying anyone is guilty of doing this, but putting yourself in such a position HAS been a closeable offense in the past, and ive brought up one example allready where this happend.
As ive said Appoco master is changing the rules, or how they are practised.
If the only closeable arguments for closing a farm is actualy sending an ingame mail describing how you are gonna carry out your farming plan, then i wonder if 99% of the cases where people have been closed under the "farming rule" was wrong?
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Why is it not ok? If benneh and inted all those roids and not lost them then it would be bad still? Should no one be allowed to int roids? Should we all play in 1 uniform style? How many roids does the average ct/pen or HR player int a round? Are they all cheating too? How about ult when they int back to 300 roids every other day after being bashed by 5 alliances for 700 ticks? Are they also in the wrong?
How about when the Brazilians used attack xp and a technical loophole in xan stats and xp formula to win a round with 100% attacking? Heaven forbid someone does the reverse and uses def xp mechanics...
If it was against the rules he would be closed. If it was going to be changed then appoco would have said or eluded to it here already.
If Norse are stupid enough to attack for 20 roids at a time and feed benneh xp then it's them you should be crying too.
This tactic is also completely viable in alliance as well, and could even be more profitable as alliance on average have more consistent incs
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seriouly?? are o trying to be funny or u really comparing hit enemies entire round, being fc every night, but still go out and win.. with.. ASKING FRIENDS TO HIT U, INITIATE 9k ROIDS, AND ASK THEM TO COME AGAIN??
wtf.. are u guys crazy??? whats going on here??? anyway... i dont care anymore.. its patetic.. and insane...
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25 Jun 2016, 21:27
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Ive not been monitoring this gal that close, but ive noticed a few planets sending two digits amount of fleets at this gal. Not having all intel on these planets, or knowing what their past relationship to Benneh is, i can only wonder if there could be any connection.
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If your strategy is to accumulate cheap roids then it's perfectly logical to attack planets where defence is minimal. Not saying that's what's happening (I don't know at all) but it's a reasonable explanation.
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25 Jun 2016, 22:16
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by lokken
If your strategy is to accumulate cheap roids then it's perfectly logical to attack planets where defence is minimal. Not saying that's what's happening (I don't know at all) but it's a reasonable explanation.
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Yeah, thats a fair assumption, but...
If i wanted a friend to win, and myself to gain roids, in such a scenario we have this round, would it qualify for abuse/cheating?
Im not saying 4:1:4 is an assosiate with benneh(maybe clouds could tell us who this guy is?), but it would be a little suspect if i started attacking my friends if it eventualy meant they would gain millions(!) of score from it andi was getting free roids?
Maybe Bram will give us inc stats after the round on 3:4, who actually attacked the gal, and how many off those planets that was self deleted before round end?
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25 Jun 2016, 22:39
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Re: r67 who will win
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seriouly?? are o trying to be funny or u really comparing hit enemies entire round, being fc every night, but still go out and win.. with.. ASKING FRIENDS TO HIT U, INITIATE 9k ROIDS, AND ASK THEM TO COME AGAIN??
wtf.. are u guys crazy??? whats going on here??? anyway... i dont care anymore.. its patetic.. and insane...
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How is it any different to what you did with xan xp abuse?
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Re: r67 who will win
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How is it any different to what you did with xan xp abuse?
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They did not get caught "cheating", or doing illegale activties afaik.
Not saying that all they did was legal, but atleast they did not get caught doing it.
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Re: r67 who will win
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How is it any different to what you did with xan xp abuse?
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nothing, u right, im wrong, lets move on..
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Re: r67 who will win
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They did not get caught "cheating", or doing illegale activties afaik.
Not saying that all they did was legal, but atleast they did not get caught doing it.
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Has benneh and his gal been caught cheating? As far as I'm aware they are still open.
Are his incs actually from his friends or are just just slandering him again with false accusations?
Is initing 9k roids actually against the rules?
And finally Joesph, throw whatever emo fit you want but you attacking every day and dodging an FC with xans is no different activity wise to him, in fact bennehs probably takes more concentration and both are taking advantage of a poor xp formula/mechanism. You find yours legitimate and therefore Bennehs is too.
PS. We're all happy to bash noobs for cheap roids repeatedly and then go back when they re-int or set up raid on a HR fort knowing it will be 100% lands and we can go back again when they re-int but because it's someone slightly famous within the community this is happening too suddenly it's cheating and appalling gameplay and should be removed from the game. Get over yourselves, stop being bitter you didn't think of it, are not able to dedicate yourself to an equal endeavour.
Basically go look in the mirror you hypocritical asses and go get some actual facts, if you spent as much time getting better at the game as you do slandering ppl on here you might be in a better position to affect the rankings.
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26 Jun 2016, 09:03
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Has benneh and his gal been caught cheating? As far as I'm aware they are still open.
Get over yourselves, stop being bitter you didn't think of it, are not able to dedicate yourself to an equal endeavour.
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The whole problem is that its not about 'dedicating yourself'. He got others to signup just to init roids and constantly lose them as a goal. Simply to give him score.
Im glad others didnt think of it, maybe because they didnt want to risk getting closed and ruin their rep by cheating, maybe because they didnt like playing that way or maybe nobody else is as creative as Benneh.
Dont really understand the hostile attitude too, theres clearly something wrong here. Only question is if mh can close them with the rules they have or if they need to adjust the rules for next round.
If thats how the nr1 in the game gets decided it does suck a bit and its quite logical people post about it on the forums.
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26 Jun 2016, 09:04
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Has benneh and his gal been caught cheating? As far as I'm aware they are still open.
Are his incs actually from his friends or are just just slandering him again with false accusations?
Is initing 9k roids actually against the rules?
And finally Joesph, throw whatever emo fit you want but you attacking every day and dodging an FC with xans is no different activity wise to him, in fact bennehs probably takes more concentration and both are taking advantage of a poor xp formula/mechanism. You find yours legitimate and therefore Bennehs is too.
PS. We're all happy to bash noobs for cheap roids repeatedly and then go back when they re-int or set up raid on a HR fort knowing it will be 100% lands and we can go back again when they re-int but because it's someone slightly famous within the community this is happening too suddenly it's cheating and appalling gameplay and should be removed from the game. Get over yourselves, stop being bitter you didn't think of it, are not able to dedicate yourself to an equal endeavour.
Basically go look in the mirror you hypocritical asses and go get some actual facts, if you spent as much time getting better at the game as you do slandering ppl on here you might be in a better position to affect the rankings.
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Well thats teh beauty of cheating in PA, you can never get caught doing it, as nobody will ever know what you were doing or have any proof of it
Ive asked in a previous post for Clouds to identify one "regular" XP donaters, and if Clouds will be kind enough to give out his nick, we can start asking question if its looking suspcious or not.
But as i said earlier, in the past, putting yourself in such a position that it might look you are infact cheating deliberately is and should be a closeable offense.
As i said Ace and Appocomater should come here and explain the rules in this situation, but they are afraid too get into the discussion with me, as they know im right and everyone is wrong obviously....
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26 Jun 2016, 09:52
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Shhhhhhh
The whole problem is that its not about 'dedicating yourself'. He got others to signup just to init roids and constantly lose them as a goal. Simply to give him score.
Im glad others didnt think of it, maybe because they didnt want to risk getting closed and ruin their rep by cheating, maybe because they didnt like playing that way or maybe nobody else is as creative as Benneh.
Dont really understand the hostile attitude too, theres clearly something wrong here. Only question is if mh can close them with the rules they have or if they need to adjust the rules for next round.
If thats how the nr1 in the game gets decided it does suck a bit and its quite logical people post about it on the forums.
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That's the crux of the issue. There is no proof that anyone has signed up to give his galaxy incommings, only speculation. There is nothing in the rules of the game stopping him playing purely defence. There is nothing in the rules that stops people re-inting in between attacks (if there was we would have 200 closures a round). There is no rule against obtaining xp from defence of 1 ship fleet (once again if there was every xan would get closed). So actually there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. In fact pioneers often walk a fine line near the rules, which what he is doing here.
The Brazilian xans weren't closed when they colluded (speculation) to obtain insane xp on attacks to win the round a few back. In fact everyone blamed the game mechanics and not them yet now cos it's benneh's gal the accusations are personal and barely blaming the game at all, hardly fair or consistent is it?
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26 Jun 2016, 10:34
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Re: r67 who will win
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That's the crux of the issue. There is no proof that anyone has signed up to give his galaxy incommings, only speculation. There is nothing in the rules of the game stopping him playing purely defence. There is nothing in the rules that stops people re-inting in between attacks (if there was we would have 200 closures a round). There is no rule against obtaining xp from defence of 1 ship fleet (once again if there was every xan would get closed). So actually there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. In fact pioneers often walk a fine line near the rules, which what he is doing here.
The Brazilian xans weren't closed when they colluded (speculation) to obtain insane xp on attacks to win the round a few back. In fact everyone blamed the game mechanics and not them yet now cos it's benneh's gal the accusations are personal and barely blaming the game at all, hardly fair or consistent is it?
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Well, as me and Patrikc have mentioned earlier in this thread, MHs would close people initiating roids too purposely give away and close/warn players who might look like they were crashing on prupose etc.
You can never-ever proove that someone is infact a farm, or doing something illegale to give another player an advantage, unless they actualy tell the PA crew/MHs themself.
If suddently a lot brazillian people started attacking Joseph and he was gaining insane amount of XP from it, dont you think people would start crying then too?
Or as i said earlier, if CarDi, or Clouds for that matter had pulled this "trick" they wouldve been closed instantly.
Being apart of the stats mafia, or the support team does not put you above the law, you should be threated equaly as the rest in cases like this.
Mz, Benneh or any other member of the #support channel should know better than to put themself in any situation that would open up for abuse.
That they are actualy is argumenting for that "this is not cheating" is actualy quite shocking, as they know if it actualy was there would be no stopping it if you went by the same logic.
You gotta give it to them ofc, the idea is pretty "creative".
And the planet name trolling is surely great if they manage to remain open for the entire round.
Instead of sending mails to people that they can come have free roids, (wich they would be closed for), they put it in their planet/ruler name.
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26 Jun 2016, 11:02
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
The Brazilian xans weren't closed when they colluded (speculation) to obtain insane xp on attacks to win the round a few back. In fact everyone blamed the game mechanics and not them yet now cos it's benneh's gal the accusations are personal and barely blaming the game at all, hardly fair or consistent is it?
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Just because someone else at some point got away with (speculation) cheating, doesnt mean anyone speaking up against the cheating now has some personal grudge with benneh.
Or that the cheating now shouldn't be punished.
Sure maybe the other guys in benneh's BP didnt tell him about their plans to constantly init roids and attract incs and he was just trying to see how many MC he could build, then noticed all the incs and tried to help best he could by sending 1 ship to defend. And he accidently also named his planet to fit with what he's doing during this round, but he had no idea they were planning to cheat this way.
So maybe theres no proof to close benneh, but surely theres enough proof to close the others and take away the gains he got from their cheating?
Similar to how they take away stolen ships if some random planet logs in a few times to build ships and 'crashed' them on an attack he had 0% chance of landing.
It's tough to proof there the target had any say or control over the guy giving him his ships, so I can understand they cant close him, like they cant close Benneh, but by taking away the gains of the cheating, you try to discourage it best you can, and make sure it doesnt have a big impact on the round.
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26 Jun 2016, 11:49
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Re: r67 who will win
See again you are twisting the rules of cheating to fit the events of what is happening.
The planet names are irrelevant as evidence in this case. If my rp was COME ATTACK ME CT of FREE ROIDS4U does that mean if any CT attack me then they are closed for farming? Of course not, so that argument from you holds no water.
Is inting roids illegal? No. What do most HCs tell their members after a big attack or constant incs? ' int back to 300/500 roids to keep your value growth up'. Not illegal and normal a good practice to not fall behind.
In terms of them getting attacked because they are 'free roids' this is no different to setting up a noob bash raid to get a steady flow of roids back into an alliance. Is it illegal? No.
Coming on here and directly accusing players of cheating, using nicknames and coords, slandering their name with nothing no evidence to back it up. Making derogatory comments about them and their family/friends. Is that against the rules? Yes. So who should actually be getting punished?
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26 Jun 2016, 12:04
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Re: r67 who will win
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See again you are twisting the rules of cheating to fit the events of what is happening.
The planet names are irrelevant as evidence in this case. If my rp was COME ATTACK ME CT of FREE ROIDS4U does that mean if any CT attack me then they are closed for farming? Of course not, so that argument from you holds no water.
Is inting roids illegal? No. What do most HCs tell their members after a big attack or constant incs? ' int back to 300/500 roids to keep your value growth up'. Not illegal and normal a good practice to not fall behind.
In terms of them getting attacked because they are 'free roids' this is no different to setting up a noob bash raid to get a steady flow of roids back into an alliance. Is it illegal? No.
Coming on here and directly accusing players of cheating, using nicknames and coords, slandering their name with nothing no evidence to back it up. Making derogatory comments about them and their family/friends. Is that against the rules? Yes. So who should actually be getting punished?
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if u are not even confused about whats going on, if u are 100% sure about whats happening, then my friend, u are wrong...
im here with many others to discuss something thats affecting the entire game... im not demanding anything..
im curious to know if this gonna still be avaible next rounds.. thats all... if Pa team allow this strat to happen again, then, the game is going into a new level...
but if they come next round and say "well guys, that was a mistake, we are fixing it now", then, all this discussing was useless, bcoz usually its what happens.. they see a problem, and fix it next round.. so im just going to wait and see..
tyvm
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Joseph
if u are not even confused about whats going on, if u are 100% sure about whats happening, then my friend, u are wrong...
im here with many others to discuss something thats affecting the entire game... im not demanding anything..
im curious to know if this gonna still be avaible next rounds.. thats all... if Pa team allow this strat to happen again, then, the game is going into a new level...
but if they come next round and say "well guys, that was a mistake, we are fixing it now", then, all this discussing was useless, bcoz usually its what happens.. they see a problem, and fix it next round.. so im just going to wait and see..
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I know what's going on, I have never said that it shouldn't be changed, like attack xp was changed after your lot abused it. But let's be very clear IT IS NOT CHEATING. It's a playstyle that doesn't fit in with the accepted way the game should be played. A way the players themselves have decided is acceptable and actually has no bearing on the rules of the game itself. Do not get confused with what you 'think' is cheating and what cheating actually is.
Also you have all demanded he is closed, that is wrong and if you are denying it then you should re clarify your stance
Don't flip flop your opinion to try and appeal to everyone like Butcher does
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26 Jun 2016, 12:26
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Re: r67 who will win
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I know what's going on, I have never said that it shouldn't be changed, like attack xp was changed after your lot abused it. But let's be very clear IT IS NOT CHEATING. It's a playstyle that doesn't fit in with the accepted way the game should be played. A way the players themselves have decided is acceptable and actually has no bearing on the rules of the game itself. Do not get confused with what you 'think' is cheating and what cheating actually is.
Also you have all demanded he is closed, that is wrong and if you are denying it then you should re clarify your stance
Don't flip flop your opinion to try and appeal to everyone like Butcher does
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start a discussion with u kaiba, its like decree my deadline in PA... so i will just let u keep your thing with your BFF *bb*
keep me out of your thing..
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Re: r67 who will win
For someone who doesn't want to argue on AD, you sure argue on AD a lot.
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Re: r67 who will win
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yeah, but we never saw ingal planets "asking" friends to attack them with that nice planet and ruler names, and letting be roided, and initiating again, over and over and over, and not BEING CLOSED.. thats the point here.. not benneh sending a ****ing def fleet..
i know u guys are all happy about him getting this nice score for u eor, i dont care, i like ult as much as any of u.. but this is just idiot and makes no sense at all..
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Either prove he's setting up incoming or shut up if you have no proof. As explained earlier, he doesn't need to get people to attack his galaxy when they are already attractive targets.
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Re: r67 who will win
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Either prove he's setting up incoming or shut up if you have no proof. As explained earlier, he doesn't need to get people to attack his galaxy when they are already attractive targets.
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I'd put it in a more diplomatic way but this. Although I'd say you have to offer evidence rather than prove. This forum is not the multihunter team.
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Re: r67 who will win
What you guys are rly arguing is the difference between
1- cheating
2 exploitation
Their 2 different things derp
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Re: r67 who will win
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Either prove he's setting up incoming or shut up if you have no proof. As explained earlier, he doesn't need to get people to attack his galaxy when they are already attractive targets.
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Who is X:X:X Clouds, and why has be been constantly hitting where Benneh is farming XP?
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Re: r67 who will win
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Maybe Bram will give us inc stats after the round on 3:4, who actually attacked the gal, and how many off those planets that was self deleted before round end?
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Can't do.. IIRC when a planet gets deleted then the fleets launched by that planet are also deleted from the database.. (meaning by the time I get the data these fleets are already gone )
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Re: r67 who will win
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Either prove he's setting up incoming or shut up if you have no proof. As explained earlier, he doesn't need to get people to attack his galaxy when they are already attractive targets.
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I dont like u telling me to shut up. I dont do that to u..
I said the planet name is asking ppl to hit them.. Thats all
But hey... If u think its ok, fine... Nothing more to add here...
Cya
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Re: r67 who will win
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I dont like u telling me to shut up. I dont do that to u..
I said the planet name is asking ppl to hit them.. Thats all
But hey... If u think its ok, fine... Nothing more to add here...
Cya
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Why are you saying that though with no evidence to back it up? You can't just slander someone cos you feel like it....
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26 Jun 2016, 19:21
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Re: r67 who will win
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Why are you saying that though with no evidence to back it up? You can't just slander someone cos you feel like it....
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do u have any problem with me? or its hard to understand my english??
give me a break... go discuss with BB or some1 else.. or enjoy your weekend.. dunno...
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26 Jun 2016, 20:02
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Valle is my hero
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Re: r67 who will win
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do u have any problem with me? or its hard to understand my english??
give me a break... go discuss with BB or some1 else.. or enjoy your weekend.. dunno...
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I take issue with the way you accuse people of things without anything to back up your claim. Then don't answer questions about your claims and make out you don't have time to discuss in a cool way before replying 2 mins later... again
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26 Jun 2016, 20:11
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
I take issue with the way you accuse people of things without anything to back up your claim. Then don't answer questions about your claims and make out you don't have time to discuss in a cool way before replying 2 mins later... again
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i have plenty time, i just dont want to do it with u, get it? dont think u diserve it... =)
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26 Jun 2016, 20:52
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Valle is my hero
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Re: r67 who will win
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i have plenty time, i just dont want to do it with u, get it? dont think u diserve it... =)
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Yet you keep replying so obviously you secretly do, you just don't have a leg to stand on as you cannot say anything without looking like the world's biggest hypocrite because of the way you abused xan attack xp.
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26 Jun 2016, 22:40
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Re: r67 who will win
all i know is the snoozefest might be over soon
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27 Jun 2016, 16:50
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Re: r67 who will win
Haha, Joseph is hilarious. He makes absurd accusations and then when someone challenges those accusations, he goes crying and wants people to leave him alone. Like, what? If you can't take it, then I suggest you keep quiet.
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27 Jun 2016, 17:11
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Re: r67 who will win
The accusations are not absurd. But it would be impossible to prove. No reason for whining because of it too, it will be nerfed next round.
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27 Jun 2016, 17:13
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Join Date: May 2004
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Clouds
Haha, Joseph is hilarious. He makes absurd accusations and then when someone challenges those accusations, he goes crying and wants people to leave him alone. Like, what? If you can't take it, then I suggest you keep quiet.
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Who is 4:1:4 Clouds, and why has be been constantly hitting where Benneh is farming XP?
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27 Jun 2016, 17:28
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Who is X:X:X Clouds, and why has be been constantly hitting where Benneh is farming XP?
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If he answers that he's breaking the rules.
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27 Jun 2016, 17:35
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Re: r67 who will win
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If he answers that he's breaking the rules.
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wich rules? forum ones?
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27 Jun 2016, 18:13
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The brother of Spammer
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Clouds
Black Flag due to our beloved dictator Nazi general ChronoX.
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The most scariest thing I have read in PA along time .... he should make carDi look like night-sky in comparison lol
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
wich rules? forum ones?
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If you grass up someone co-ords on forums = 1 month ban -/+
It is somewhere in the forum rules
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27 Jun 2016, 19:21
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Re: r67 who will win
I would be interested in a link to the forum rules. I looked, but I can't find them.
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27 Jun 2016, 19:30
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: r67 who will win
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I would be interested in a link to the forum rules. I looked, but I can't find them.
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Yeah, and these rules wernt made when tehre were 10k+ planets? Still relevant for sure
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27 Jun 2016, 19:46
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Valle is my hero
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Yeah, and these rules wernt made when tehre were 10k+ planets? Still relevant for sure
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Rules don't stop being rules just cause there is less people to adhere to them.....
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27 Jun 2016, 19:50
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The brother of Spammer
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: r67 who will win
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I would be interested in a link to the forum rules. I looked, but I can't find them.
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I cant remember where I had seen it but I do remember heartless (the guy is a fanny and don't miss him) got 1 month ban for posting my r18 co-ords and you got 1 month ban for posting benneh's co-ords the other round there.
as for the location of this rule I can't find it either.
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27 Jun 2016, 19:55
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Rules don't stop being rules just cause there is less people to adhere to them.....
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Rules are changed as the game changes, or the forums change.
Ive allready said that appoco & the PA team has changed the farming rules, and i would love to bring you the proofs of this if they just give me access to the MH reports.
Posting coords was in the past a big no-no, but its obviously diffrent today.
Who ever revealed Benneh as the XP cheater would prolly be banned for 1 month by the same logic as Paisley just brought up.
Do you actualy think that there would be so many "criminals" on the loose in here if this was actualy a very busy forum like it was back in the days?
If they were to rules with an "iron grip" there would be no posters left.
Does this mean you can be rude, or directly flame other users? No, ofc not.
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27 Jun 2016, 23:40
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Clouds
Haha, Joseph is hilarious. He makes absurd accusations and then when someone challenges those accusations, he goes crying and wants people to leave him alone. Like, what? If you can't take it, then I suggest you keep quiet.
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28 Jun 2016, 12:49
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: r67 who will win
paisley hit me up on irc pal!
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28 Jun 2016, 20:31
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Who is 4:1:4 Clouds, and why has be been constantly hitting where Benneh is farming XP?
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How am I supposed to know, I'm not even playing.
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28 Jun 2016, 20:39
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Joseph
yeah, but we never saw ingal planets "asking" friends to attack them with that nice planet and ruler names, and letting be roided, and initiating again, over and over and over, and not BEING CLOSED.. thats the point here.. not benneh sending a ****ing def fleet..
i know u guys are all happy about him getting this nice score for u eor, i dont care, i like ult as much as any of u.. but this is just idiot and makes no sense at all..
Total Round Roids: 8358 (3:4:5)
Total Round Roids: 5198 (3:4:2)
SERIOUSLY?? thats ok????? nice humm????
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Have you checked what allys are attacking them, it's funny how adamant you are that it's kept for next rd, have yiu already set up plans for friends to hit you if you go doth same tactics?
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28 Jun 2016, 22:10
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Re: r67 who will win
If anyone plans to do that gzambo, how could anyone stop them?
Farming has now be legalized, if you got a planet, take a look around yourself in the univers?
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28 Jun 2016, 22:27
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
If anyone plans to do that gzambo, how could anyone stop them?
Farming has now be legalized, if you got a planet, take a look around yourself in the univers?
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I know it's crazy but if they stopped attacking for cheap easy roids
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28 Jun 2016, 22:35
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: r67 who will win
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I know it's crazy but if they stopped attacking for cheap easy roids
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Being an self proclaimed expert to detect bogus planets and farms, i can tell you that there is a large number out there this round aside from 3:4.
Do you think Ace is even remotely capable to detect or close anyone himself?
Try join their IRC channels(#multihunters), there is guys thats been sitting in there for over 2 weeks waiting for a MH to appear.
If people dont belive in justice, they will simply just stop reporting cheating.
And even if they did report cheating, Ace has said that noone will be closed unless they got evidence, in this case ingame mails containing the farming agreements.
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30 Jun 2016, 01:20
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by gzambo
Have you checked what allys are attacking them, it's funny how adamant you are that it's kept for next rd, have yiu already set up plans for friends to hit you if you go doth same tactics?
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nope, i will just wait them fix it, and start playing again..
i dont play for win... if thats what u think... i play for the fun the game bring us.. and this is not fun at all =)
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