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Unread 29 May 2006, 18:05   #1
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Council tax dilemma
I might move to Cardiff in the summer. If I do I shall be living with 2 students. I shall no longer be a student. I have heard two different stories regarding council tax.

One is that I shall only have to pay 1/3 of the tax and the others shall be exempt. the theory is that it is charged per person.

the second is that I shall have to pay the entire amount of council tax by myself. the theory is that it is charged per house, not per person.

Can anyone clarify this for me please?
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Unread 29 May 2006, 18:07   #2
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Re: Council tax dilemma
You pay a set amount of council tax pr. house, regardless of people living there. I can't remember whether a certain percentage is added pr. extra person though. I only lived in Scotland for 6 months, didn't really have time to clarify council tax
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Re: Council tax dilemma
Council Tax wise where i am it gets charged by the house. If it's all students then it's free. If there are any non-students then they get a 25% reduction on their bill (but not water rate) but have to pay the rest.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
If you are the only non-student then you will get the 25% single person discount as there is only one person elegible to pay in the house (the same as if there was only one person in the house at all, they get 25% off too). The students will have to get a note from their uni saying they are full time students in order for this discount to be applied, otherwise they will assume you are all elegible to pay the lot (this is the same note they would have to get if you were all students in order to get out of paying entirely).

If another non-student should happen to move in then you will have to pay the full lot between you.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
So the house only has to pay 75% of the total but would his student house-mates expect him to pay the whole thing by himself as it is him being there that's costing them or would they split it or contribute towards it?

Legally is he liable for the whole thing (the 75%) himself?
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So the house only has to pay 75% of the total but would his student house-mates expect him to pay the whole thing by himself as it is him being there that's costing them or would they split it or contribute towards it?

Legally is he liable for the whole thing (the 75%) himself?
they are friends-of--friend so I would have to spend it all myself.

If this is the case then Cardiff is definatly out of the question.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
Essentially, yes, the students are exempt from council tax, so it is purely his presence that makes the household have to pay at all. It would be entirely their goodwill if they paid any part. I am not certain, but with the students exemption notes I would assume that they would not be chased for payment - only ASG would.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
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they are friends-of--friend so I would have to spend it all myself.

If this is the case then Cardiff is definatly out of the question.

There are plenty of places around where you can live with non students so all the council tax doesn't fall on you. Council tax here doesn't appear to be that dear either.

You could just move onto the 15th floor
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Re: Council tax dilemma
a non student is living in our student house this year. we havent been chased up for council tax, but if we were there is no ****ing way i would pay any of her share.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
yeh just don't tell anyone that there are any non-students there.

I managed for 6 months in Croydon...

It's way too expensive for me to feel guilty about not paying.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
won't you get a 2nd (and possibly 3rd) adult rebate?
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Re: Council tax dilemma
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yeh just don't tell anyone that there are any non-students there.

I managed for 6 months in Croydon...

It's way too expensive for me to feel guilty about not paying.
Too damn right.
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Re: Council tax dilemma
All of a sudden I fid myslef supporting the Lib Dem's policy of replacing council tax with a local income tax.
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