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Unread 28 Jun 2008, 10:41   #1
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This morning, I am in Wales. Yesterday morning, I was not.

How did this happen? By the wonderful discovery of the locomotive. While it does take several hours and requires 15 men to operate,* nevertheless it is far more agreeable than ye olde horse** and carriage.

Yesterday afternoon, I bought a "ticket" and boarded the locomotive, or "train" as some prerfer to call this wonderful contraption.

I arrived in Cardiff in the evening without having my ticket "inspected". It then ocured to me that the ticket seemed to be more of a badge of honour than of having any practical value. It was very possible that I could have made the journey for no cost, if I were a scallywag.

Are these things done nowadays? Is this sort of "theft" acceptable? Would you condone it? What can you "steal" without breaking your personal moral code?

Please do not post your crimes here, I do not wish to hear about them nor do I think it would be particularly prudent to make such remarks.


*8 of which die, on average, every journey
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Unread 28 Jun 2008, 11:01   #2
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Scallywagging is simply applied statistics. Bad applied statistics, at that. Given that, any moral implications are irrelevant to me.
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Unread 28 Jun 2008, 12:05   #3
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Re: Theft
A mate of mine lives in Lancashire, I live in Buckinghamshire. Whenever he used to come down he got the train and never bought a ticket. He actually moaned that when he went through London he had to pay for a tube ticket so he prefers not to go that route. His strategy is that when the ticket collector comes round he just sits there and the ticket collector assumes that he's already checked his ticket earlier.

Personally I always buy a train ticket but I can't really condem the guy seeing as I participate in copyright infringement on a regular basis (hopefully this thread won't decend into a discussion about that).

I try not to commit theft, I used to shoplift when I was younger but I like to think I've grown up since then. Even if I know that I could get away with it I prefer to pay for stuff (apart from the previously mentioned copyright infringement). I like to think this is due to the stringent moral code that I live by.
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Unread 28 Jun 2008, 15:00   #4
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I have a 6month record for falling short of 10p on my Oyster card and forced to pay £100 fine.

It's a ****ing abuse of the court system.
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Little known fact: Ticket inspectors on trains can't charge you a penalty fare. Only the people at station on the barriers can do that.

I nearly always buy a ticket, unless I forget. The £20 fine is a hassle otherwise!
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Re: Theft
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Little known fact: Ticket inspectors on trains can't charge you a penalty fare. Only the people at station on the barriers can do that.
Really?

I bought a ticket for Cardiff with a young persons without realising that my YPR had expired. Ticket got checked (first time in ages heh, you'll find they rarely do ASG) and I had to buy a new single ticket at a higher rate than the normal single (I paid £72, my return had cost £35 so would have been £54 without the young persons)

I always buy train tickets/sign in on the DLR just in case. I don't want the hassle of hiding from inspectors or anything.
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i used to live in manchester, but have to return home on a weekly basis (to the north east) and in a six month period i bough... porbably about 5 tickets i think? (this was a good few years ago though) because the trains were all intercities, and didnt bother checking betweek york and manchester
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I get the train to work each day, and i don't buy a ticket, namely cos the stations i go between dont have ticket offices, but very rarely get charged as the conductors are usually too lazy to come around...
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I used to ride the Metro quite a lot without a ticket (albeit mainly on the grounds that I forgot to buy one) and nobody ever pulled me up over it. Now they have barriers and all sorts so that would be harder nowadays I imagine.
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