To Wolfpack, Love Me

[TouRiQueT]

OKay before you read anymore just know these are my views and not represented by my alliance afaik. So yeah, FAnG, Phratkos and Mistu had nothing to do with this...ANd i'm just a pe0n who knows nothing about politics. But this is still all true and what i know etc.

What the hell guys (WP)?

Firstly you remained neutral, stuck ure members in all gals and waited it out to see who would be the victor of the war. As soon as you got wind that it was going to be a FPM victory you made some secret nap aggreemnent or whatever, basically you got protected so you were able to easily roid the hell out of the Elysium block. Not only did ruin the round for Elysium because you refused to take a stance against FMP - because clearly your a bunch of fu cking pus sies - but you also ruined the round for FMP. How? By napping the winning block you esentially created what was initally a 3 alliance block but a 4th alliance who wasnt really allied but was protected to some extent. There was no fair fight or anything, just over powerment. What a waste of my 5 dollars and more importantly my time.

So thanks guys, pld. Really well done. All you really did was screw up the round. Now Elysium and there friends are pretty much dead, un motivated to play because there is no way to win. Frankly, i think they played as best as they could. And you have done nothing to deserve your alliance so highly ranked.

Heh so a few minutes ago i launched on a WP player in the top 5. I get like 50 pm's from people begging me to recall. Naturally this was just a test, see what happens. Omg can WP cry? seriously you guys are spineless and have no honour. Just fence sit fence sit, join winning side, make secret agreements to secure top places. Why dont you do something meaningful with all 96 of your elite members.

Just some food for thought: while their gal mates were being roided to hell wave after wave and dying WP galaxy members of the Elysium block and other allies, just stood by and watched, did nothing. On one raid on a key "enemy" galaxy I even had a WP HC talking to me about how he would not report the incoming on his galaxy even tho he was the only one online and the whole galaxy got roided. That is i am sorry too low even for my standards. Its just sick how you ****ed every other alliance and just looked at your selves for a self.

so, Wolfpack, what say you?
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[Wandows]

couldn't agree more.. though FPM could have done more imho to prevent this from happening, but thats just my 0,5 cents

[Anaram]

Frankly, I'd put equal blame on this to anyone accepting the alliance with WP, not just -on- WP. Just my opinion though.

EDIT: personally, I think I put more blame on FPM than on WP for this, but then again...

[TouRiQueT]

True but WP still held the upper hand in that they could have decided to have some balls and make a stand instead of all this fairy chit
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[lokken]

Originally Posted by Provider

Now it's a huge block against well a small blockie. (ely and what's left of their allies). People really expect WP to make a huge block even bigger? Dont hope so. And we also wont allie with some who we simply dont trust. If the line we set then is seen as fencesitting? hmm you can also say that WP in a way is free to attack by all alliances since it's without allies. Is that fencesitting or staying solo and with that becoming a bigger target. Matter of opinion. But imo you can't sit on a fence when everybody can shoot ya down from it. Fencesitting is being allied with everybody else. And as far as I know are allies something WP doesn't have atm.

Just something i dug up from another thread - it's from a WP HC for those who aren't aware.

Amusing, innit. Knew it was bollocks from the moment i read it.

[Heartless]

One sentence:

"Shut The Fu ck Up." (Andrew Eldritch, Düsseldorf, 14th April 2004)

[Smudge]

awwwwwwwwww poor lil ELY going to do badly in this round
its a game
live with the consenquences

[TouRiQueT]

Provider is right but the two blocks were engaged in a war with one another, attacking a neutral would mean nothing.
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[TouRiQueT]

Smudge thats not the point. Ely couldnt do well because they were out numbered, out fleeted and out allied.
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[Remy]

Originally Posted by Heartless

One sentence:

"Shut The Fu ck Up." (Andrew Eldritch, Düsseldorf, 14th April 2004)

Hard to hear the truth?

As LCH normally says: Its all Hearties fault

[TouRiQueT]

whatever, i'm going off now. I dont care what you say i am right. WP are puss ies who cant commit to anything and ruined the round because they have no spine. WP = n00bs.
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[Kjeldoran]

heh, mind you that you can't really blame this on any alliance but WP. In the end, they hold their own future in their hands and THEY decide what to do with it. Becides, if they weren't in FMP galaxies, I'm sure they won't have been in galaxies of the other block

rgds Kj

[Heartless]

Originally Posted by Remy

Hard to hear the truth?

As LCH normally says: Its all Hearties fault

Not at all, he has a point there.
But given his position in his alliance he is not the person doing politics, and that is what my comment is refering to.

[Wandows]

lol, ofcourse FPM is not responsible for it... LOL don`t make me laugh.. you allowed it to happen aswell didn't you?

[Nitros]

Originally Posted by Smudge

awwwwwwwwww poor lil ELY going to do badly in this round
its a game
live with the consenquences

ho ho, arent you one big badass!
damn you are so cool
seriously, get a clue

[Heartless]

oh wait, wasn't it the same in Round 9 where Ely, LCH (with ToT), Ecl and so on called all the vvomm people complaining "whiners"? Now the same people which accused the losing block of being whiners is whining that they got outnumbered and outgunned... what a strange change in history ...

[Nitros]

true, though some people are able to learn from their mistakes, sadly some others cant (arent you FAnG HC and werent you in ToT yourself in r9..ho ho..)

[Jackal2112]

Hi Touriquet, got one planet this round?

It is kinda funny that you give your personal view especially AFTER Vsn/Ely/LCH have already been beaten. It would have been something else if you had made such a stance in the beginning of the round when it would actually have mattered if WP was allied to Vsn/Ely/LCH.

But you cry baby now see that you are running out of 'hostile' targets within your score limit and those that still are within your limit get a lot of defense. No surprise that, besides hitting and roiding kicked FAnG members, you want some more easy roids and find out you can not get them from wp planets... (now you surely believe that MPF vs WP would really be a very fair fight this far in the round???? - even you should see the contradiction in your own starting post..)

Hypocrite, multiiing cry baby. Go to mommy. You are so wank

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

Hi Touriquet, got one planet this round?

It is kinda funny that you give your personal view especially AFTER Vsn/Ely/LCH have already been beaten. It would have been something else if you had made such a stance in the beginning of the round when it would actually have mattered if WP was allied to Vsn/Ely/LCH.

But you cry baby now see that you are running out of 'hostile' targets within your score limit and those that still are within your limit get a lot of defense. No surprise that, besides hitting and roiding kicked FAnG members, you want some more easy roids and find out you can not get them from wp planets... (now you surely believe that MPF vs WP would really be a very fair fight this far in the round???? - even you should see the contradiction in your own starting post..)

Hypocrite, multiiing cry baby. Go to mommy. You are so wank

you're the cry baby here, I think we can all agree on that. Atleast the rest can DISCUSS on AD and doesn't need to flame and insult at the end of every post. Learn that and maybe some day your opinion won't end up in some hilarious laughter (which amuses us for 3.2 seconds, sometimes more, sometimes less).

rgds Kj

[Nitros]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

funny stuff .

actually he's quite right about it all

[Jackal2112]

Too bad Kjel, you can try to turn this thread into a flaming fest as well but it's the truth.

Both the timing of Touriquets post and the message it contains are laughable.

[Anaram]

About 10 days ago it should have been clear to most that elysium&co was losing this war. It's also easy to say in retrospect that the sheer numbers dictated the outcome of the round from tick 0. From tick 0, political maneuvering could have changed things however, and 10 days ago had WP been able to join with ely block, things might still have been swayed.

As it is now, only a war inside the winning block would pose a thread to the 4 alliances in it.

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Becides, if they weren't in FMP galaxies, I'm sure they won't have been in galaxies of the other block

rgds Kj

yea, you can be sure of that. by that time "we" (before i retired" we only agreed on a 3 alliance block - no further naps, allies or others in the galaxies, just the 3 alliances.

something the other side didnt have the balls to (it seems)

gladly i quit before i had to live out that mess.


edit :

I must say i never disliked alliances like i do after this round fang, phraktos, mistu and wp - i know you dont give a **** - but your all so blatant arrogant that you dont see that your ****ed up another round.

you guys can block your way up and win for all costs, but surely you will never reach the level famous alliance in the past had.

im so worried that your all so fking stupid that you did it again.

[Gerbie]

So can anyone tell me how the situation currently is on top? Are there still targets, or can we expect Wp to be targetted by now?

[Wandows]

Originally Posted by Heartless

oh wait, wasn't it the same in Round 9 where Ely, LCH (with ToT), Ecl and so on called all the vvomm people complaining "whiners"? Now the same people which accused the losing block of being whiners is whining that they got outnumbered and outgunned... what a strange change in history ...

may i note you that VsN was both in EVL and VVOMM... so we no doubt have a right to be pissed at certain ppl for screwing another round of pa as if its nothing

[Hicks]

Kje in talking rubbish total non shocker.

[TouRiQueT]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

Hi Touriquet, got one planet this round?

It is kinda funny that you give your personal view especially AFTER Vsn/Ely/LCH have already been beaten. It would have been something else if you had made such a stance in the beginning of the round when it would actually have mattered if WP was allied to Vsn/Ely/LCH.

Wouldnt have mattered, WP were pressured by other people to ally but they didnt, not my job to say anything.

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

But you cry baby now see that you are running out of 'hostile' targets within your score limit and those that still are within your limit get a lot of defense. No surprise that, besides hitting and roiding kicked FAnG members, you want some more easy roids and find out you can not get them from wp planets... (now you surely believe that MPF vs WP would really be a very fair fight this far in the round???? - even you should see the contradiction in your own starting post..)

Hypocrite, multiiing cry baby. Go to mommy. You are so wank

Yeah i am running out of targets and bigger guys do get defence but how is that uncommon in anyway? Make it sound like its my fault, lol. So what if i want some more roids? I've hit 1 kicked fang planet....

Well if WoflPack think they are so mighty let them prove it, sure a war wont last long but we'lll all be alot more roid fat. And i dont mind that ...

Just because i roided your farms first dont have a tantrum over it okay?
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[Zh|l]

I'm not exactly in the loop but I'm rather surprised that WP sided against Elysium. Perhaps the HC can answer that question better - they might simply know that the majority of WP were in FPM galaxies thus the political decisions that WP could employ were thus limited. The only way you can get actively involved in a war is if you control your members and their galaxies - if FPM was controlling them anyway then it's only logical.

Anyway, I fail to really see the point of your post to be honest. Its all done and dusted now, the only fun you are going to have now is if your block splits up. A FPM vs WP will not give you much entertainment/fun - it would just be a slaughter against WP and you would be without targets very quickly, not to mention it would fk up your mixed galaxies all the more.

What you don't realize is that each war requires careful consideration as they require alot of effort - simply put: a three alliance team war against WP wouldnt bring about enough benefits to make the effort worthwhile. Infact, it could help certain alliances within it to become #1 and I believe all three alliances in FPM want to be #1 (except maybe Mistu who don't seem too bothered.)

Also, from another angle - killing WP gets rid of a wild card that can help one of the FPM (or two) to become top alliances.

So currently, however you look at it - WP are currently a key decision for the alliances of FAnG. Phraktos and Mistu which is probably why they havent all out hit WP yet.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

Too bad Kjel, you can try to turn this thread into a flaming fest as well but it's the truth.

Both the timing of Touriquets post and the message it contains are laughable.

yet you decided to do nothing more then flaming. I never said I agree with what touri posted here. But you're as worse as the only thing you do on AD is flaming. Look at your last 100 posts and find me 5 which didn't contain any flames.

You are worth less then the worst poster, cause atleast he/she tries. You don't have a goal or a point to prove, you're just out there to flame and troll.

rgds Kj

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Hicks

Kje in talking rubbish total non shocker.

hehe, zhukov is a genious compared to you

[pablissimo]

Originally Posted by Hicks

Kje in talking rubbish total non shocker.

'Kjel'. Sounds almost lubricating.

[Banned]

Originally Posted by Heartless

One sentence:

"Shut The Fu ck Up." (Andrew Eldritch, Düsseldorf, 14th April 2004)

How exactly did he pronounce that space between the eff-yew and see-kay?

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

I'm not exactly in the loop but I'm rather surprised that WP sided against Elysium. Perhaps the HC can answer that question better - they might simply know that the majority of WP were in FPM galaxies thus the political decisions that WP could employ were thus limited. The only way you can get actively involved in a war is if you control your members and their galaxies - if FPM was controlling them anyway then it's only logical.

Anyway, I fail to really see the point of your post to be honest. Its all done and dusted now, the only fun you are going to have now is if your block splits up. A FPM vs WP will not give you much entertainment/fun - it would just be a slaughter against WP and you would be without targets very quickly, not to mention it would fk up your mixed galaxies all the more.

What you don't realize is that each war requires careful consideration as they require alot of effort - simply put: a three alliance team war against WP wouldnt bring about enough benefits to make the effort worthwhile. Infact, it could help certain alliances within it to become #1 and I believe all three alliances in FPM want to be #1 (except maybe Mistu who don't seem too bothered.)

Also, from another angle - killing WP gets rid of a wild card that can help one of the FPM (or two) to become top alliances.

So currently, however you look at it - WP are currently a key decision for the alliances of FAnG. Phraktos and Mistu which is probably why they havent all out hit WP yet.

You are correct in many ways here zhil, not likely of me to agree with ya but ...

however you have to bare in mind that it is Phraktos who is upholding the nap with WP, not FAnG. Also, the initial block was FAnG, MISTU and Phraktos and that block got formed when Eclipse didn't announce to disband yet.
Shared galaxies WERE MADE before eclipse announced their stuff. 95% of the MFP galaxies were infact dealt with before eclipse made their announcement. Fact that there are WP involved in those galaxies was purely cause WP was considered Neutral and for that FAnG didn't forbid it's members to add them to their galaxies.

mistu, phraktos and fang members got deliberatly grouped together in galaxies. We however never even contacted WP and asked them to be in our galaxies (FAnG that is, I don't know about the other allies). We nonetheless did not mind because at that time, we figured we'd have a decent fight with the EVL + Eclipse block.

This is not our defence against all those accusations, it are just simple facts you cannot deny. I agree with Touri that we shouldn't have napped WP. I don't agree with how he posted it which clearly didn't show much respect for anyone, but nonetheless he has a point (maybe too late, but so be it).

Also, ofc the #1 spot is important. Eclipse, and therefor you aswell, of all pple should know what it means to end #1. They didn't end r10 as #1, their nice ally Ely did, but nonetheless does EVERYONE believe that Eclipse was the engine of the EET block. Even I believe no alliance but Eclipse in EET deserved to end #1.

Like you said, it's all done and dusted now. Nonetheless do I not believe this round is over.

Nway, this is how I feel about all this.

(see hicks, lord_dain, you can make a point and not flame in a thread aswell, I hope you can reply with a decent flameless point)

rgds Kj

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

You are correct in many ways here zhil, not likely of me to agree with ya but ...

however you have to bare in mind that it is Phraktos who is upholding the nap with WP, not FAnG. Also, the initial block was FAnG, MISTU and Phraktos and that block got formed when Eclipse didn't announce to disband yet.
Shared galaxies WERE MADE before eclipse announced their stuff. 95% of the MFP galaxies were infact dealt with before eclipse made their announcement. Fact that there are WP involved in those galaxies was purely cause WP was considered Neutral and for that FAnG didn't forbid it's members to add them to their galaxies.

mistu, phraktos and fang members got deliberatly grouped together in galaxies. We however never even contacted WP and asked them to be in our galaxies (FAnG that is, I don't know about the other allies). We nonetheless did not mind because at that time, we figured we'd have a decent fight with the EVL + Eclipse block.

This is not our defence against all those accusations, it are just simple facts you cannot deny. I agree with Touri that we shouldn't have napped WP. I don't agree with how he posted it which clearly didn't show much respect for anyone, but nonetheless he has a point (maybe too late, but so be it).

Also, ofc the #1 spot is important. Eclipse, and therefor you aswell, of all pple should know what it means to end #1. They didn't end r10 as #1, their nice ally Ely did, but nonetheless does EVERYONE believe that Eclipse was the engine of the EET block. Even I believe no alliance but Eclipse in EET deserved to end #1.

Like you said, it's all done and dusted now. Nonetheless do I not believe this round is over.

Nway, this is how I feel about all this.

(see hicks, lord_dain, you can make a point and not flame in a thread aswell, I hope you can reply with a decent flameless point)

rgds Kj

Indeed, when I say #1 I dont necessarily mean #1 ingame - although it would be nice. FAnG currently can claim that, and I havent seen anything special from Phraktos/Mistu to spur them ahead in saying they are the 'engine of the block' or somewhat.

Most sane people regard Eclipse as the #1 alliance of r10.

Even if FAnG end #2 in rankings, if they show enough skill then likewise, FAnG will be considered #1 alliance for r10.5

Right now, there is too little to go for me to assess which alliance is strongest in the FPM block.

And Eclipse disbanding really did fk up the 'sides' to speak.

Personally, I know what I would have done if I was WP HC, but then thats not based on the info WP obviously has at hand, so their current 'fence' sitting may be the best thing they can possibly do. Especially if my above theory on Wolfpacks exact political position is correct.

[Remberasha]

Don't you love game stagnation due to super-blocking -- lol

Personally I wonder how long PA will last with crud like this that loses players and money to keep this game running...

Hey I have an idea --- why don't we block all the big allainces together in one giant block and pound all the non-allied planets into rubble and then declare we all won~!!??

That would be funny - but in a way,.. thats whats been kinda' happening all along.... and sadly new blood (players) plays this game just 1 time and decides to move on to other more fair (and fun) games to play...

feel great oh ye' superblockers - yee have done this game such a great service with your win..!~ congratulations and cudo's for such a great (ahem) well deserved victory through great tactics and strategys in combat.

(with love)
Remby --

[Kurashima]

Zhil, stop arguing with these people and make some more damned comics. Youre one of the few genuinely funny PA Comic people that ever survived from stripcreator

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Kurashima

Zhil, stop arguing with these people and make some more damned comics. Youre one of the few genuinely funny PA Comic people that ever survived from stripcreator

I remember looking at stripcreator a few weeks back and laughing at Ping Timeout! again

Although honestly, I dont think Ive had much inspiration to write more stuff. r9 I might have. The WEET block I could have had fun with.

[Guran]

Top 100 planets

FPM ~70%
WP ~12%
EVL ~8%
Neutrals mostly in FPM gals ~10%

Couldn't be arsed to look further than top 100. I got so depressed.

Originally Posted by Gerbie

So can anyone tell me how the situation currently is on top? Are there still targets, or can we expect Wp to be targetted by now?

[mens]

Hypocrites 99%

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

bla bla bla

you ****ed up the round. no need for this gibberish.

[Lord_Thunderball]

WP had no other way to get this position then napping FPM, so good but lame politics on there side. FPM didn't need WP to get the spot they have know. So, which side is the lame side?

P.S. I don't like both, and so damn happy I ain't playing for real this round

[Wandows]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

we figured we'd have a decent fight with the EVL + Eclipse block.

funny you are saying that, cuz we as VsN weren`t even approached by EL untill Eclipse announced its disbanding.. so how did you know we would be on their side

[Lord_Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Wandows

funny you are saying that, cuz we as VsN weren`t even approached by EL untill Eclipse announced its disbanding.. so how did you know we would be on their side

MPF knew they where strong together, but in there eyes didn't had the BIG overhand(like it turned out). They encouraged an all vs them war(Besided what now happened with WP), so they thought all others EVL + Ecl, would side up against them. Most alliances did, although 2 big flaws,

1) Eclipse disbanding
2) The "WP" accident

So, they where left with a shitty round. But the initial intentions where not that bad tbh

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Wandows

funny you are saying that, cuz we as VsN weren`t even approached by EL untill Eclipse announced its disbanding.. so how did you know we would be on their side

m8, I don't know nor care if VsN was approached by eclipse etc at that time. My point is that our block figured we'd have a decent fight against the other block, no matter what alliances were present in it. Fact that it was a copy of EET (only with a lighter version of ToT) means that it would have been a fair fight.

It's really sad Eclipse left, not cause I ever liked them, but we'd have a fight atleast.

rgds Kj

[I am Idler]

Originally Posted by TouRiQueT

True but WP still held the upper hand in that they could have decided to have some balls and make a stand instead of all this fairy chit

clearly WP were the better side.

Good going WP.

[CrazyConrad]

WP are teh suck, who really cares?

[Morden]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

m8, I don't know nor care if VsN was approached by eclipse etc at that time. My point is that our block figured we'd have a decent fight against the other block, no matter what alliances were present in it. Fact that it was a copy of EET (only with a lighter version of ToT) means that it would have been a fair fight.

It's really sad Eclipse left, not cause I ever liked them, but we'd have a fight atleast.

rgds Kj

Its interresting that Elysium find it deplorable now, yet they didnt mind when it was FAnG/Dragons vs EET in round 10, when they had near double our numbers.

IF they cannot fight back then it is there fault for bringing this on themselves.

And elysium have the gall to beleive they won round 10. did they fk, FAnG/Dragons fought most of the round against the odds and were more successful, and lost due more to rl than to that of our opponents. Yet did we complain at Pack for not siding with us fully? had they sided with us EET would not have lasted very long.

[Jackal2112]

Originally Posted by TouRiQueT

Well if WoflPack think they are so mighty let them prove it, sure a war wont last long but we'lll all be alot more roid fat. And i dont mind that ...

TouriQuet I have come to the conclusion you are right! Your alliance should show they have some balls and declare war on Phraktos Mistu and WP! Ofcourse your petty alliance won't hold out long in a 3 vs 1 scenario but hey, we would be more roid fat and we don't mind that! So go ahead little boy, make your HC declare war on M, P and W, and show some balls! Seriously FAnG owns all and so do you so why not take on this challenge

[lokken]

bleh, no one wants to win for themselves nowadays

[JonnyBGood]

Maybe wolfpack and phraktos versus fang and mistu to alleviate (FOR ****S SAKE SOMEONE STOP THE BOREDOM) the rather tedious "end" of round we appear to (FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I'LL PAY YOU IF YOU ATTACK SOMEONE) have.