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Unread 6 Jan 2007, 14:27   #1
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[International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
But I do hope that Russia gets hit in the face bythis eventually.

It will be nice to see Russia's bullying tactics backfire on them. On the otherhand, one can say they already do, since they not only externally bully, but also internally, making Russia in no time one of the shittiest states in the world.

Shame it is Belarus though that is doing this, I'd love to see more 'accepted' and 'backed' states hitting Russia in the face.
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
Won't they just put the price of oil to Europe up to cover the cost?
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
Why exactly is upping the price on a product to "closer to market price" bullying?
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Russian handling of Shell and BP of late. :whistle:
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
Remember kids, when the developed world capital flows or World Bank loans cause political changes in the developing world it's just good business.

But if the nasty Russians or Venezualans try to leverage their own resource wealth for political ends then they're insane despotic bullies!
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
Belarus is a weird country, a friend of mine wrote his dissertation on the relations of Russia and Belarus (mine was on Japan and Russia) so we had a few interesting conversations on the two countries.

While relations between Belarus and Russia aren't that bad iirc they were looking at having a very close relationship circa 2005, Belarus is ruled by a nutter. Putin is quite a strong leader, the Belarus guy Lukashenko is just nuts.

Eventually he will be ousted out of power, not sure how as he rigs every election and consequently has been in for some time. He also has a horrendous human rights record and about its only friends in Europe and the world are indeed Russia. If anything Russia is probably agreeing to this "tax" to humble Lukashenko. I am sure Putin is working on some way of plotting the downfall of Lukashenko which would allow democracy and all that jazz. Once democracy is back Belarus will just become Russias lapdog again.

Although this is all theoretical, Lukashenko is one powerful guy. But what I am trying to say is that if they piss of Russia, Belarus have no one else fighting there corner (the americans et al will most certainly not touch them with a barge pole.)

I don't think Russia will be too upset about this, at the end of the day it's a tit for tat move and in the future the Russians will probably get there own back financially.
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
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Remember kids, when the developed world capital flows or World Bank loans cause political changes in the developing world it's just good business.

But if the nasty Russians or Venezualans try to leverage their own resource wealth for political ends then they're insane despotic bullies!

please, its fairly obvious that the russians have been doing a 'heavy mob' on gas production in their country, not everything is an evil conspiracy to keep people down
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
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Remember kids, when the developed world capital flows or World Bank loans cause political changes in the developing world it's a horrible oppressive thing.

But if the humanitarian Russians or Venezualans try to leverage their own resource wealth for political ends then they're just doing it for the good of mankind!
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Re: [International Politics] Let's not get our hopes up
Here we go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6240473.stm
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