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Unread 7 Jan 2005, 20:00   #1
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[Controversial Discussion] GOD

Just as the title says.

Do you believe in the existence of God?

What are your reasons for believing or disbelieving in him?

I raise these questions because most people say things about God but when you question their beliefs and counter their arguments they just shrug off the issue. Why talk about God if you have no knowledge about him or his existence?

This is meant to be an intellectual discussion. Avoid posting utter crap, spam *cough* YAWHE *cough* and dont insult people for their beliefs.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

yeah... i do... i think

although having said that, i don't subscribe to any of the major religions, or religion at all in fact.

I prefer to think there is SOME kind of benevolent, uber being, in that way im a kind of Deist
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no knowledge about him or his existence?
No single person in this world does.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

Hardly controversial.

But in answer, yes, but I'm not a great fan of his.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

This isn't particularly controversial.

Anyway, I'm an atheist.

I'm not really sure of what "reasons" you want. It's kind of the same reason I don't believe in Santa Claus or the Loch Ness Monster.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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No single person in this world does.
How can the notion of God come about if no one has knowledge about him?
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

and as for my reasons in believing in him, i guess its mostly because the universe seems so finely tuned to "us". Also because of certain events that have happened in my life that im not going to go into.

Also because im scared and i need a psychological crutch.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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This isn't particularly controversial.

Anyway, I'm an atheist.

I'm not really sure of what "reasons" you want. It's kind of the same reason I don't believe in Santa Claus or the Loch Ness Monster.
Is God a fairy tale to you?
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How can the notion of God come about if no one has knowledge about him?

What the hell do we know about the Happy Fag Goblins from the third moon of the planet Eboratiorica?


Nothing, I just made that up.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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I'm not really sure of what "reasons" you want. It's kind of the same reason I don't believe in Santa Claus or the Loch Ness Monster.
That's not really the best analogy is it, at least the Santa one, given it's "known" he doesn't exist. You may argue it's "known" that God doesn't exist, but I never saw my dad dressing up as God and creating the world in a week.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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What the hell do we know about the Happy Fag Goblins from the third moon of the planet Eboratiorica?


Nothing, I just made that up.
How was it possible you made it up? You just conjured up a few ideas from experience, ie Happy Fags=Gay which is homo/happy, goblins are mythical creatures, third moon can be influenced by planets having more than one moon and if i knew you pretty well i could probably explain the name of the planet.

Explain God to me if no one has seen him, felt his presence or knew of his existence
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That's not really the best analogy is it, at least the Santa one, given it's "known" he doesn't exist.
Known by who?

And plenty of people have said they "are" God (or the Son of God, etc) so I don't really get your dressing up point.
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How was it possible you made it up? You just conjured up a few ideas from experience, ie Happy Fags=Gay which is homo/happy, goblins are mythical creatures, third moon can be influenced by planets having more than one moon and if i knew you pretty well i could probably explain the name of the planet.
lol

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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

because people WANTED to believe in god because they didn't understand the world. So they created something to explain it... gawd, this is hardly ground breaking discussion here inferno.
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How was it possible you made it up? You just conjured up a few ideas from experience, ie Happy Fags=Gay which is homo/happy, goblins are mythical creatures, third moon can be influenced by planets having more than one moon and if i knew you pretty well i could probably explain the name of the planet.

Explain God to me if no one has seen him, felt his presence or knew of his existence
How did the first person who "invented" Goblins do it? OMG GOBLINS MUST BE REAL!!!!
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How did the first person who "invented" Goblins do it? OMG GOBLINS MUST BE REAL!!!!
Goblins look like short men. Someone just jumbled them with animals to make them look like they are. What I am trying to get at is our imagination is bound to the world we see. We cant make anything which havent seen. Similarly a thousand years ago the notion of robot would never have come to them.
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Just as the title says.

Do you believe in the existence of God?
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What are your reasons for believing or disbelieving in him?
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Why talk about God if you have no knowledge about him or his existence?.
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And plenty of people have said they "are" God (or the Son of God, etc) so I don't really get your dressing up point.
My point is it's 110% sure that Santa does not exist, noone bar children believes other wise.
How can you "know" god does not exist in the same way? And noone really believes that these people are god, besides Jesus ofc.
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How did the first person who "invented" Goblins do it? OMG GOBLINS MUST BE REAL!!!!
Yea! And so are dragons, and magicians with laserbeam eyes and who shoot fireballs from their arse because they are in a real game!
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My point is it's 110% sure that Santa does not exist, noone bar children believes other wise.
What does this actually mean though? "It is known" is not an argument. Logically they are the same point.

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What makes Jesus different from other cult nutters, aside from success? And there have been plenty of cases of people who have had followers, what does that mean?
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Read the question.
"I have no reason to" to seems a fairly respectable excuse for not believing in God really; I don't see why what he said was not a valid response to the question.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

Might I add the fact that people are not Gods in anyway. Just in case you get confused.

And the issue of son of god is debatable. If you wish I will consider making another thread on that long and boring issue.
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We cant make anything which havent seen. Similarly a thousand years ago the notion of robot would never have come to them.
It sounds like you have a limited mind. Aristotle spoke of robot-like devices two thousand years ago.
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"I have no reason to" to seems a fairly respectable excuse for not believing in God really; I don't see why what he said was not a valid response to the question.
The question was reasons for believing or disbelieving. If only some of you could read!
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It sounds like you have a limited mind. Aristotle spoke of robot-like devices two thousand years ago.
Prove it.

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The question was reasons for believing or disbelieving. If only some of you could read!
I believe I don't believe. I believe I read that somewhere.
God*, this thread is shit...



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The question was reasons for believing or disbelieving. If only some of you could read!
What? Do you expect him to say "hey I saw God and he told me he didn't exist!" or something?
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Having no reason to believe is a reason to disbelieve.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

This thread is not particularly useful unless you define "God".
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What? Do you expect him to say "hey I saw God and he told me he didn't exist!" or something?
What about you? You seem to have done nothing but comment.
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I do not believe in god.

'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof', etc.
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Explain God to me if no one has seen him, felt his presence or knew of his existence
How about people feeling that they are all alone in the world, that there is no reason to life or to existance. People cannot handle the idea that this is it. We live, we die, we rot in the ground. People need something greater than that. HOLD ON ONE MINUTE! Wasn't the Earth created by GOD? Aren't we here because God wanted us here, he put us here? Isn't it great that when we die if we ask for forgiveness for all our sins God will allow us in to the Kingdom of Heaven. I bet everything's rosy there! Hurrah! I no longer feel alone. I no longer feel that life is pointless. Hurrah for GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This thread is not particularly useful unless you define "God".
What is your definition of God? I speak of the more commonly known God of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
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My point is it's 110% sure that Santa does not exist, noone bar children believes other wise.
i'd suggest that there's as much irrefutable evidence of santa's existance as there is of god's.

it seems that both are only believed in by those who want to believe.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

Which God? Do you mean the Christian God? The Muslim Allah? The Hindu Gods? The Roman/Greek Gods?

There is no way of proving/disproving the existance of whatever God(s) you're talking about.
However - due to the complexity involved in the origins of life etc, it's perfectly understandable to believe that an entity designed the universe, breathed life into living things and controls fate. It is also understandable to believe that something happens after you die (and in some religions before you were born), because otherwise what's the point of it all?

Organised religion really annoys me though. God hates gays? God hates non-believers? God hates people who have sex before they get married? Bollocks.
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I believe that God does not exist, furthermore God is the manifestation of many creations designed by man to mould mankind into a certain line of righteousness.

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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

Who has the right to say what God hates and loves? And in case you didnt know there is sufficient evidence to prove that the same God is believed in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. They only differ in how they worship him and Gods rulings as well as a few other things.
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So? Just because I believe in God I have to be christian, a fundamentalist and a faggot. You are extremely intelligent and that qualifies you posting in this thread.
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Inferno can you answer your own questions? You have said that you believe in God but what are your reasons?
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

In a sweeping generalization, the people who believe (and worship) in God are generally those, who are more primitive-minded with beliefs and morals of more aged times. These people are also ones who have either been reduced* to, or been blindly brought up to religious teachings to sustain them upon 'a line of righteousness**'.

To me, God is nothing more than a tool for inspiration.

*horrid problems - ie, loss of a loved one or general life crisis can lead to an extra belief(read: hope) in God as a motivational catalyst to change things around. Though, same issues could ofcourse easily lead into the exact opposite path and a complete disbelief in god due to 'his lack of apparent care' etc.

**righteousness which is obviously defined by the morals created long ago and chiselled into it's current state.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

See, the existance of 'God' can be an interesting discussion if you don't fag it up by asking stupid questions.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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You created this thread, that's why I'm asking you. If you want to discuss the existence of a "God", then you would need to clarify which one you speak about, or which concept you wish to discuss.
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In that case, no. I do not believe in any notion of "God" which attributes him/her with any form of consciousness or otherwise human attributes.
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

People have come with countless explanations of how the universe came to existence but they always seem to have failed as their theories constantly have flaws. If the universe was not created by God and all of it was down to chance then why isnt there a single theory which has no faults?

Science does a good job of telling how things work in the world but science cannot tell us they how the came about. One example is energy. Science tells us energy cannot be made. If it cant be made how it come to exist? I guarantee you that even if science could explain that there will be another question on that issue that will follow that science cannot explain.

This world is fine tuned to perfection so that life can exist. Now why would that be? And of all the creatures in the world we are above them. Chance? Millwall FC in the FA Cup final was chance. Not this.

What most people fail to understand is that the existence of God can never be physically proven. If it was then all humans would believe and enter paradise, nirvana or what have you. But we do have is signs of his existence through his creation. Even your own body is a sign, but that is if you choose to see it that way.

This would raise another question on the purpose of life. I cant explain that because I am not qualified to do so if you understand what I mean.
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Unread 7 Jan 2005, 21:11   #49
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

Sorry for going off topic but i think you should revert to the non christmassy version of your avatar. And did you make that animation?
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Re: [Controversial Discussion] GOD

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People have come with countless explanations of how the universe came to existence but they always seem to have failed as their theories constantly have flaws. If the universe was not created by God and all of it was down to chance then why isnt there a single theory which has no faults?
The beginning of the Universe is a bit complex to say the least. Just because there isnt a single definitive theory it doesnt mean the answer has to be God. If God created the universe where did God come from? If you cant explain that does that mean he cant exist?

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Science does a good job of telling how things work in the world but science cannot tell us they how the came about. One example is energy. Science tells us energy cannot be made. If it cant be made how it come to exist?
Energy can be made in certain circumstances.

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This world is fine tuned to perfection so that life can exist. Now why would that be? And of all the creatures in the world we are above them.
Evolution makes perfect sense.
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