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12 Oct 2005, 13:32
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Globalisation
occurs due to domestic demand for foreign goods.
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12 Oct 2005, 13:35
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Re: Globalisation
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occurs due to domestic demand for foreign goods.
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Disagree. It occurs due to many more reasons than just that.
However the point you raise is a reason - so if your question is that "does it occur due to domestic demand for foreign goods as part of the reason" - then i agree
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12 Oct 2005, 13:36
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Re: Globalisation
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12 Oct 2005, 13:37
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Re: Globalisation
Popcorn.
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12 Oct 2005, 13:38
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Re: Globalisation
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The desire to sell domestic goods abroad. The desire to hire cheaper and better labour abroad. The desire to sell cheaper and better labour abroad.. etc.
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12 Oct 2005, 13:41
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Re: Globalisation
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The desire to sell domestic goods abroad. The desire to hire cheaper and better labour abroad. The desire to sell cheaper and better labour abroad.. etc.
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People must want the good in order to sell them. Ah, price of labour, I forgot about that. OK, so two things. A third anyone?
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12 Oct 2005, 13:41
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Re: Globalisation
Improved communications, improved international transportation links, increasing consumer base as a result of economies maturing towards the service sector and relying on imported goods...
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12 Oct 2005, 13:42
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Re: Globalisation
Zar pretty much covers a lot of the reasons. Globalisation probably occurs the most because organisations want to expand more both into other places and different areas of the market (for a more [stable] profit), and exploit cheaper labour costs if available.
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12 Oct 2005, 13:47
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Re: Globalisation
Citizen's want to explore and to gain goods from abroad.
Business's want to increase profits.
I'm going with them. Thank you internet.
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12 Oct 2005, 13:58
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Re: Globalisation
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Citizen's want to explore and to gain goods from abroad.
Business's want to increase profits.
I'm going with them. Thank you internet.
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In the old days, I think they used to called it "pure greed". Globalisation=Greed
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12 Oct 2005, 14:07
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Re: Globalisation
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Citizens want to explore and to gain goods from abroad.
Businesses want to increase profits.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:08
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Re: Globalisation
Globalisation occures because countries have comparative advantages, which may lead to an overall wellfare gain.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:09
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Re: Globalisation
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Globalisation occures because countries have comparative advantages, which may lead to an overall wellfare gain.
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No, that's why s pecialisation exists.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:13
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Re: Globalisation
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12 Oct 2005, 14:14
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Re: Globalisation
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No, that's why specialisation exists.
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Higher specialisation leads to higher globalisation, because in an economically ideal world every country would only produce the good/service in which it has the comparative advantage.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:15
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Re: Globalisation
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Higher specialisation leads to higher globalisation, because in an economically ideal world every country would only produce the good/service in which it has the comparative advantage.
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Surely by "country" you merely mean "geographical region"?
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12 Oct 2005, 14:19
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Re: Globalisation
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money.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:20
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Re: Globalisation
because some countries are better than others amirite?
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12 Oct 2005, 14:24
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Re: Globalisation
exportation of culture through the media and communication has fuelled it as well. (although i think this was covered earlier so im just repeating repeating repeating repeating repeating repeating
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12 Oct 2005, 14:27
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Re: Globalisation
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Surely by "country" you merely mean "geographical region"?
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not necessarily, for example if you have country A and country B in the same geographical region they could still have different advantages on certain products due to laws,tax and all those internal stuff ...
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12 Oct 2005, 14:30
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Re: Globalisation
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not necessarily, for example if you have country A and country B in the same geographical region they could still have different advantages on certain products due to laws,tax and all those internal stuff ...
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Obviously, but those wouldn't occur in the "economically ideal world" entium is talking about.
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12 Oct 2005, 14:37
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Re: Globalisation
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Higher specialisation leads to higher globalisation, because in an economically ideal world every country would only produce the good/service in which it has the comparative advantage.
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Specialisation leads to exportation. The desire to make more profit by expanding into a different region, and take advantage of specialisation and potentially reduce costs of exportation leads to globalisation.
In an economically ideal world everyone would be dead.
You don't specialise per country, you specialise per area, depending on resources and available labour, both manual and skilled. Unless your country is an island.
Your idea seems to suggest that, for example, France would produce bakery products. NOTHING ELSE. Germany could make cars. If Germany wants a sandwich in their coffee break while making cars, they have to get bread exported from France.
Specialisation works to a point - the majority of one country doing a select few things, and perhaps certain areas of a country specialising in one or two things, but that's as far as it should go. Any more, and it becomes economically unviable.
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Re: Globalisation
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Disagree. It occurs due to many more reasons than just that.
However the point you raise is a reason - so if your question is that "does it occur due to domestic demand for foreign goods as part of the reason" - then i agree
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Doesn't that mean you do agree? Just don't think it is solely responsible?
(which is what I would say - I agree, but there are other factors)
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12 Oct 2005, 15:08
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Re: Globalisation
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I was using 'want' as a noun. The want that belongs to the citizens. But yeah they were shit sentences anyway. Citizens' want to xxx...
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12 Oct 2005, 15:13
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Re: Globalisation
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Specialisation leads to exportation. The desire to make more profit by expanding into a different region, and take advantage of specialisation and potentially reduce costs of exportation leads to globalisation.
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Which is basically what I tried to said.
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In an economically ideal world everyone would be dead.
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I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by Appocomaster
You don't specialise per country, you specialise per area, depending on resources and available labour, both manual and skilled. Unless your country is an island.
Your idea seems to suggest that, for example, France would produce bakery products. NOTHING ELSE. Germany could make cars. If Germany wants a sandwich in their coffee break while making cars, they have to get bread exported from France.
Specialisation works to a point - the majority of one country doing a select few things, and perhaps certain areas of a country specialising in one or two things, but that's as far as it should go. Any more, and it becomes economically unviable.
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I never claimed that the countries would look like today's countries, i.e. have the same borderlines. So, as JonnyBGood suggested, "geographical region" would probably be the more suitable expression.
Comparative advantages lead to certain degree of globalisation. I never said that (in a/our second best situation) the degree of specialisation should go to the extent you suggested.
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12 Oct 2005, 15:31
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Re: Globalisation
Globalisation is caused by Jews.
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12 Oct 2005, 15:35
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Re: Globalisation
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I never claimed that the countries would look like today's countries, i.e. have the same borderlines. So, as JonnyBGood suggested, "geographical region" would probably be the more suitable expression.
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I think you're moving the goal posts here slightly, tbh.
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Comparative advantages lead to certain degree of globalisation. I never said that (in a/our second best situation) the degree of specialisation should go to the extent you suggested.
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You said they'd specialise in a "good/service". That's one thing. Two, if you count one good AND one service.
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Re: Globalisation
Globalisation is part of the cycle that begins and ends with the Tower of Babel.
It's all just a way of keeping god entertained.
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Re: Globalisation
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Globalisation is part of the cycle that begins and ends with the Tower of Babel.
It's all just a way of keeping god entertained.
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You mean it happens more and more (as civilisations advance) and then God gets bored and kicks it over like an ants nest so they start again ?
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Re: Globalisation
globalization can also be caused by people wanting to spread their values (religion).
And it also occurs simply because it's easier to take land from darkies than others in your homeland.
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Re: Globalisation
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You said they'd specialise in a "good/service". That's one thing. Two, if you count one good AND one service.
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Yes, in a perfect economy, where one underlying assumption is that there's no cost of transportation.
In the second best situation, where we unfortunately live in, specialisation is only reasonable to a certain degree, as you correctly pointed out.
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specialisation/the law of comparative advantage often doesnt work because of subsidies etc...
in my opinion the main reason for globalisation is improvements in communication and an international dependency between countries, there has been a demand for foreign goods for centuries, unless thats when globalisation started...
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Re: Globalisation
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there has been a demand for foreign goods for millenia,
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Re: Globalisation
Globalization is having GD forum users do the research for you for your dissertation on Globalization.
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Re: Globalisation
In fact, no. It was a question that arrived in my head after leaving a conference about the european union. It's an s unless you're using the american spelling.
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Re: Globalisation
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In fact, no. It was a question that arrived in my head after leaving a conference about the european union. It's an s unless you're using the american spelling.
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Re: Globalisation
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In the old days, I think they used to called it "pure greed". Globalisation=Greed
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