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vampire_lestat · 18 May 2005, 21:25

did they get shut down or something?
where do you get your episodes of family guy from now?

1-X · 18 May 2005, 21:30

MPAA are targetting TV show sharing atm, was on all the news sites a few days ago

vampire_lestat · 18 May 2005, 21:40

so where do you get your family guy, my epesode three download is still going from tuesday or something!

Zar · 18 May 2005, 21:51

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Originally Posted by vampire_lestat

so where do you get your family guy, my epesode three download is still going from tuesday or something!

try:
isohunt.com
torrentspy.com
torrentreactor.net
piratebay.org

etc..

Rids · 18 May 2005, 22:01

How ****ing shit, I only use BTEfnet for getting series that arent out over here yet. When is this crusade against file sharing going to end?

Phil^ · 18 May 2005, 22:04

When the govt steps in for the mpaa and gives filesharing the death penalty?

Androme · 18 May 2005, 22:05

Piratebay will taken 7 years to shutdown thanks to the loophole in the Swedish system meaning MPAA would have to go through the European Commission for a court hearing which would take 7 years.

^^ Well not exactly but something along those lines.

BeeKiller · 18 May 2005, 22:33

The MPAA just sued/shut down 6 tv-torrent sites. Btefnet was one of them (and imo the best).
There's still torrentspy and isohunt out there though. But isohunt only searches for torrents, doesn't actually host trackers etc and the guy isn't US so they can't shut him down. But as he doesn't host the torrents, if they shut down the sites with them on then isohunts pretty useless. Oh well :s Lets wait for a non-rubbish, 'lite' version of exeem and maybe things will be ok!

Phalon · 18 May 2005, 23:37

i got my latest family guy fix from torrentspy early monday morning so i'm still \0/

Bastards at the MPAA should be shot with an bad aids rocket.

Phalon · 18 May 2005, 23:51

No.

There's aids.

Then there's bad aids.

I forget what part the rocket plays.

meglamaniac · 19 May 2005, 09:57

BTE shut down their site before the MPAA had a chance to sue (presumably they received a threatening letter or something).
Following that, "it all kicked off" back in #bt on EfNet (for those of you not aware of why the site was called BTEfNet, go do the maths please), the ops got the hump, suspended the IRC torrent download triggers and +m'd the channel for 2 or 3 days.

At the moment if you join the channel there is a periodic notice every 10 minutes or so which reads as follows:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT-Serv

<@BT-Serv> [Request] Message:[#BT will no longer be releasing any torrents in this channel or have a website. We will continue producing torrents which will be available on the net through various sources. Thank you for your support through the years. --- The #BT Team] - SysReset 2.51

In other words, they've thrown a strop and you'll need to get your shit elsewhere, yo.
I suggest unrealtorrents.

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wu_trax · 19 May 2005, 10:08

tvtorrents.com is nice. you need to register and there is some kind of system that ensures that you more or less upload as much as you download, but still, for tv-shows its quite good.
(edit: used to be, its so slow now, its not useable anymore)

Super · 19 May 2005, 13:43

Who the **** gets torrents from an IRC channel?

djbass · 19 May 2005, 13:53

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Originally Posted by meglamaniac

BTE shut down their site before the MPAA had a chance to sue (presumably they received a threatening letter or something).
Following that, "it all kicked off" back in #bt on EfNet (for those of you not aware of why the site was called BTEfNet, go do the maths please), the ops got the hump, suspended the IRC torrent download triggers and +m'd the channel for 2 or 3 days.

At the moment if you join the channel there is a periodic notice every 10 minutes or so which reads as follows:

In other words, they've thrown a strop and you'll need to get your shit elsewhere, yo.
I suggest unrealtorrents.

I was about to say the same, however as far as I was aware the stoppage was temporary, I grabbed a couple of torrents from there only a day or two ago.

Appocomaster · 19 May 2005, 18:56

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Originally Posted by wu_trax

tvtorrents.com is nice. you need to register and there is some kind of system that ensures that you more or less upload as much as you download, but still, for tv-shows its quite good.
(edit: used to be, its so slow now, its not useable anymore)

I still use it and it's ok for some things.

wu_trax · 20 May 2005, 00:47

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Originally Posted by Appocomaster

I still use it and it's ok for some things.

i like the page itself too, even that upload-requirement is ok (if you seed it counts double or something, so that you dont even need to upload as much as you downloaded), it just wont load for me anymore, i always get timeout errors

BeeKiller · 20 May 2005, 01:09

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Originally Posted by Super

Who the **** gets torrents from an IRC channel?

I don't. But I assume the reason some people do is because it's then harder to monitor who downloads them than if they were getting them from a webserver.

meglamaniac · 20 May 2005, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Super

Who the **** gets torrents from an IRC channel?

As with most things, IRC was the birthplace of torrent release groups (IRC: hosting shadey activities since 1988!) so is the logical place to start releasing. The same goes for MP3 groups, DivX groups, etc etc way back before bittorrent. There are many tens if not hundreds more "getcher copyrighted material here" channels than there are websites, and anonymity is a factor - IRC servers don't tend to keep logs of who even joins them, never mind what channels they were in, and there are other fairly obvious ways to avoid being tracked.

So in answer to the question: the people who've been doing it 2 years before you even heard of it.

Phil^ · 20 May 2005, 12:43

IRC servers iirc send their data as plain text too, to each other.
If you wanted to find out who people are ( from a govt point of view ) , then all you need to do is wiretap one of the servers, and you instantly get every channel text, every pm etc since the servers send everything to each other to keep in sync. The only things you dont get are dcc chats and dcc transfers. but you do get the 'notification' messages that one has been requested

meglamaniac · 20 May 2005, 13:44

a) there are no shortage of non-US servers.
b) wiretap on suspicion copyright infringment is VERY unlikely even in the US
c) many torrent/similar channels use CTCP triggers to get listings etc instead of channel/PM
d) and even if notification can be caught (debateable) the content of it can't so for all they know it could be a CTCP ping

Super · 20 May 2005, 22:18

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Originally Posted by meglamaniac

As with most things, IRC was the birthplace of torrent release groups (IRC: hosting shadey activities since 1988!) so is the logical place to start releasing. The same goes for MP3 groups, DivX groups, etc etc way back before bittorrent. There are many tens if not hundreds more "getcher copyrighted material here" channels than there are websites, and anonymity is a factor - IRC servers don't tend to keep logs of who even joins them, never mind what channels they were in, and there are other fairly obvious ways to avoid being tracked.

So in answer to the question: the people who've been doing it 2 years before you even heard of it.

Oh right, because it's old it's obviously the best way :q:. I'll stick to my sources I think.

p.s. what happens when someone gets the torrent from the IRC chan, notes down all of the IPs and reports back to the RIAA/MPAA?

wu_trax · 21 May 2005, 10:02

just wondering: on what legal basis do they shut down these sides? surely there is nothing illegal about the torrent-files themselfs, or even only linking to them on another server (they contain no copyrighted material). if anything they can sue only the people who run the trackers.

MrL_JaKiri · 21 May 2005, 10:22

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Originally Posted by wu_trax

just wondering: on what legal basis do they shut down these sides? surely there is nothing illegal about the torrent-files themselfs, or even only linking to them on another server (they contain no copyrighted material). if anything they can sue only the people who run the trackers.

If it is actually illegal, case closed.

If it isn't, there is no way that a small, usually free, internet site can compete with a large representation of corporate interests once the lawyers get involved, so many just drop it instead of challenging something which they suspect to be unlawful but can't afford to see through.

It's the same problem that the US has with patent law. If a big company gets its hands on a patent, then, as the only way to challenge a patent appears to be "getting sued for breach of patent", many people just live with it.