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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Congratulations #Reunion
Congratulations on your new rank!
Just like 1up and Exilition once did, a new alliance has taken the #1 spot.
Lets now see if you can keep it for the remaining weeks of this round.
good luck!
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26 Aug 2005, 13:03
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Indeed, best of luck.
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26 Aug 2005, 13:22
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I fear they might break.
Goodluck tho.
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26 Aug 2005, 13:23
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Well, Skyhead isnt really known as a character that provides stability, but on the other hand there are jupp and Legator for instance who are more than capable.
Im looking forward to see their progress over the next few days
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26 Aug 2005, 14:14
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by I am Idler
Well, Skyhead isnt really known as a character that provides stability, but on the other hand there are jupp and Legator for instance who are more than capable.
Im looking forward to see their progress over the next few days
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You say that about skyhead but let's be fair. I doubt he could find another home for his BG this round. So he's naturally going to put all his efforts into making reunion as strong as possible. He's not stupid, if he wants his BG safe, and at the top, this is the best chance he's gonna have this round and he'll know it and make the best out of it.
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26 Aug 2005, 14:29
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Sometime wanting your BG safe doesnt mean that it makes the alliance that host you stronger, they might aswell NAP the entire universe for their own good, which is in no way making reunion stronger, the point being that what is good for the BG is not always good for the alliance.
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26 Aug 2005, 14:36
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I'm really quite heartened by the way the end of this round is shaping up. Is getting kinda exciting ....
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26 Aug 2005, 14:39
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I would say congratz but I dont think there is one deserved just yet.
I wil say congratz when they have kept hold of it for a few weeks not a few minutes.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by I am Idler
Well, Skyhead isnt really known as a character that provides stability, but on the other hand there are jupp and Legator for instance who are more than capable.
Im looking forward to see their progress over the next few days
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thank you Idler for not forgetting that Reunion still has it's own HC which Skyhead is - NOT - part of.
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26 Aug 2005, 15:19
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by jupp
thank you Idler for not forgetting that Reunion still has it's own HC which Skyhead is - NOT - part of.
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He is HC of his own men wether you like it or not.
Anyone remember Hydra in wolfpack?
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brazil
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
well, congrats are just for those who deserves it, so, congrats LCH / Angels, they are sure doing nice, congrats ND, since I play PA, this is their best round, congrats f-crew and tades of fire, doing quite nice too, and mainly, congrats 1up as they have the best memberbase this round, I am afraid I'll finish here with no congrats to reunion, if it could be 500 ppl in one ally, what were they going to do ? merge with ND, later on LCH ? nah, forget about the noob questions
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26 Aug 2005, 15:40
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by noah02
He is HC of his own men wether you like it or not.
Anyone remember Hydra in wolfpack?
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26 Aug 2005, 15:43
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Reunion might have recruited themselves to #1, but imo if they manage to win the round, it will still be deserved. They got more work ahead of them than any alliance, and if they manage to pull it off, they definatley deserve the win.
The other alliances got enough time to push em down aswell, the round is far from over, and its still very open, with 4 alliances atm fighting for #1
I'm curious how the relationship between 1up and Reunion will be tho. As it is now, the top two alliances have a nap, which imo isnt a good thing. I see either LCH/ND going together or 1up/Reunion splitting up exciting
-Jonas-
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26 Aug 2005, 15:48
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Tbh, i would still target 1up harder than reunion. But that's just me...
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26 Aug 2005, 16:01
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Gio2k
Tbh, i would still target 1up harder than reunion. But that's just me...
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Written by Kloopy Wed Mar 16 22:06:43 2005
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26 Aug 2005, 16:10
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I agree with you in some points u mentionend, but not all. In war there are no rules, imo you need to take/use every possible option there is to make the tides turns into your advantage. Even though this is a game, it's based on war principes, there are allies, blocks etc..every allie is trying to survive and work up to get that #1 spot, some alliances fight their way up, other alliances uses political solutions/strategy to achieve their goals. Doesent it reminds you of real wars in the past? this is how war's have to be played ,PA wise, imo.
Anywayzz at the end, there is only one thing that matters..VICTORY..and how you achieved (except cheating ofc) it is just a minor detail. Ofc if Reunion wins this round, they wont get a price or much respect for how they win it, but its cuzz they ended #1.
Fact is..Reunion is #1 atm and need to get pwnd
'it aint over till the fat lady sings'
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26 Aug 2005, 16:19
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I agree with Murador, congrats are in order for several alliances this round. F-Crew and Tides of Fire are doing well by playing the game their own way and for the most part going it alone. Good job guys. 1up, New Dawn, and LCH have provided us with some excitement this round, good job fellas.
I have nothing against merging alliances or even recruiting your way to the top. Its part of the game and should be used to win if it can be. On a personal level I find it harder for an alliance to win with a smaller solid base of members rather than finding an alliance with enough room for their elite members and merging. Any alliance in the game can kick inactives and merge into another alliance. The honorable alliances will find a way to win without.
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Bolivian Alpaca
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by noah02
But I thought you wubed me
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But your i wub your woids too
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Gio2k
Tbh, i would still target 1up harder than reunion. But that's just me...
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26 Aug 2005, 18:19
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Jonas
I'm curious how the relationship between 1up and Reunion will be tho. As it is now, the top two alliances have a nap, which imo isnt a good thing. I see either LCH/ND going together or 1up/Reunion splitting up exciting
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26 Aug 2005, 19:26
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Jonas
I'm curious how the relationship between 1up and Reunion will be tho. As it is now, the top two alliances have a nap, which imo isnt a good thing. I see either LCH/ND going together or 1up/Reunion splitting up exciting
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/me waits for flames
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26 Aug 2005, 19:45
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sweden
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
LCH and Reunion are already napped
/me waits for flames
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26 Aug 2005, 19:51
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you know you want me
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Well, if all the top allies are nap'ed, who we all hitting then?
Flak-Crew? :P
LCH and Reunion are most definetely not nap'ed.
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26 Aug 2005, 19:59
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Stolen
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sweden
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Rofl, why did they miss to hit my gal mate who’s LCH then with all the 5 waves???
Hm, he might be invisible…yee that could be the answer.
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26 Aug 2005, 20:51
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Bolivian Alpaca
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Heartless
And that is just what Reunion is expecting and definately working on - to have an easy ride and the rest of the universe firing at 1up.
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If you were not 1up, who would you choose to fight in the end? 1up, or Reunion?
This rounds outcome will be very interesting
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Gio2k
If you were not 1up, who would you choose to fight in the end? 1up, or Reunion?
This rounds outcome will be very interesting
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Most likely the #1 alliance, since constantly hitting #2, #3 or #4 does not win you a round (except you are #1 yourself).
However, as already stated, the universe rather sees Spinner's cat win instead of 1up, so I am pretty confidet that we could even be ranked #5 alliance again and you would still continue to hit us.
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27 Aug 2005, 10:19
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Norway
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Heartless
Most likely the #1 alliance, since constantly hitting #2, #3 or #4 does not win you a round (except you are #1 yourself).
However, as already stated, the universe rather sees Spinner's cat win instead of 1up, so I am pretty confidet that we could even be ranked #5 alliance again and you would still continue to hit us.
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maybe u have to ask urselves Y people dont like 1up?
Instead of whining about the fact that people do.
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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27 Aug 2005, 10:26
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Wishmaster
maybe u have to ask urselves Y people dont like 1up?
Instead of whining about the fact that people do.
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It's not meant as whining but I ask myself how people can be so stupid and sacrifice #1 alliance rank spots just to bash 1up, as it happened last round. It is of course everyone's personal decision, but it is not what keeps this game alive.
Ultimately I think the major reason for most of the universe to hit 1up is basically the acknowledging of 1up's superior member core, and I primarily take it as a sign of fearing us and probably even holding grudges against us because we did not want to sign a nap with -insert ally name here- in order to keep the game somewhat enjoying. Thanks for so much respect for 1up, and so little for the game's community.
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27 Aug 2005, 11:17
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
the reply u make there is V arrogant.
people dont like arrogant people in general.
Its a nice mixture of u guys prolly being the best this round +comments like the one u just made.
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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27 Aug 2005, 11:23
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
If I ran an alliance here this round I'd be concentrating all fire on 1up too tbh. However I'm not sure if I would of hit Exilition or 1up the previous one. While baldylocks is less attractive than crusie, he is also a lot less annoying
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27 Aug 2005, 11:24
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishmaster
the reply u make there is V arrogant.
people dont like arrogant people in general.
Its a nice mixture of u guys prolly being the best this round +comments like the one u just made.
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It would be arrogant if I'd deny others the same, which I do not do. Just this round, we were #1 alliance until Reunion recruited themselves into #1 spot, so I think I got a valid reason to claim superiority so far.
If Reunion wins in the end, or LCH, or ND, I will accept that they have been superior.
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27 Aug 2005, 11:48
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Norway
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Heartless
It would be arrogant if I'd deny others the same, which I do not do. Just this round, we were #1 alliance until Reunion recruited themselves into #1 spot, so I think I got a valid reason to claim superiority so far.
If Reunion wins in the end, or LCH, or ND, I will accept that they have been superior.
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yeah thats fine.
I agree 1up has been the best alliance so far. But saying it in every post ya make isnt something that makes ya populare in the community.
I dont care, cause I am as arrogant if not more arrogant myself. But I think thats the main reason so many -dislike- 1up.
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
There are tons of reasons why pple "could" dislike 1up. I say pple cause I personally am not one of those (if you read my history of posting I'm generally in favour of 1up):
- You've won 2/3 rounds and doing well to win your 3rd.
- You've got the best memberbase (along with Exilition and Angels imo).
- Your command outplays any other command when it comes to politics.
- You've got some of the biggest AD trolls and dramaqueens ever seen (that's something I actually think aswell).
- Your PR works and pple do sometimes buy everything.
- The arrogance of the avg 1up poster (doesn't bother me, I know when it comes to arrogance I'd nicely fit in with the other 1up pple).
There are more I guess and I'm sure 1up might not agree with those reasons but it is how "some" pple "might" percieve 1up.
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27 Aug 2005, 12:12
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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- You've got the best memberbase (along with Exilition and Angels imo).
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27 Aug 2005, 12:46
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
They are more deidcated. Thats it.
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27 Aug 2005, 13:32
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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They are more deidcated. Thats it.
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27 Aug 2005, 13:33
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
It tickles me how stupid wishmaster is when it comes to anything.
fact: majority of the people in top 100 this round, played just as hard last round.
fact: just because 1 person can sing and everyone else can't, does not make them good.
fact: in general, I can say about 20-30 people regularly post on AD. I hate %'s, but roughly, you/and (add 2 minons names here) make up about .05% of the pa community. That doesn't mean that what you say is gold. If so, I say you are shit. Now deal with it.
On topic: GG #Reunion
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27 Aug 2005, 13:41
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Norway
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Chika
It tickles me how stupid wishmaster is when it comes to anything.
fact: majority of the people in top 100 this round, played just as hard last round.
fact: just because 1 person can sing and everyone else can't, does not make them good.
fact: in general, I can say about 20-30 people regularly post on AD. I hate %'s, but roughly, you/and (add 2 minons names here) make up about .05% of the pa community. That doesn't mean that what you say is gold. If so, I say you are shit. Now deal with it.
On topic: GG #Reunion
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U dont really get a thing do u? I am saying why OTHERS dislike 1up. Or do u think the majority of pa community love em?
I never said owt about people not playing as hard as last round. What I said was that 1up has been best so far.
And having u thinking I am shit - well, for some reason I cant seem to care. sry.
U just seem like a bitter clueless/pointless troll.
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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27 Aug 2005, 14:00
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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If you were not 1up, who would you choose to fight in the end? 1up, or Reunion?
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Ultimately I think the major reason for most of the universe to hit 1up is basically the acknowledging of 1up's superior member core
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You are right.Now in the context of what you just said, answer my question again.
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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You are right.Now in the context of what you just said, answer my question again.
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Still the #1 alliance. If you always keep knocking back the #1 alliance there will be a long race for the top spot between more than 2 alliances. Otherwise it is running away with the round in an easy manner. This is probably also the reason why most alliances fail(ed) at becoming the #1 - focussing all their attention on 1up instead of going for the top spot.
Even though that might slightly change depending upon how close the race for #1 is. If my alliance is only 2 or 3 million score behind I am probably more up for going after easy roids and keeping a good strategical and political situation for as long as necessary before ganging up on the #1. However, seeing LCH and ND are both far behind Reunion, I fail to see why they would want to hit 1up right now (unless for holding grudges). Exception might be LCH as 1up and LCH are still fighting their little war which started before Reunion's recruitment stunt.
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Heartless
Still the #1 alliance. If you always keep knocking back the #1 alliance there will be a long race for the top spot between more than 2 alliances. Otherwise it is running away with the round in an easy manner. This is probably also the reason why most alliances fail(ed) at becoming the #1 - focussing all their attention on 1up instead of going for the top spot.
Even though that might slightly change depending upon how close the race for #1 is. If my alliance is only 2 or 3 million score behind I am probably more up for going after easy roids and keeping a good strategical and political situation for as long as necessary before ganging up on the #1. However, seeing LCH and ND are both far behind Reunion, I fail to see why they would want to hit 1up right now (unless for holding grudges). Exception might be LCH as 1up and LCH are still fighting their little war which started before Reunion's recruitment stunt.
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I fundamentally disagree with the belief that hitting the #1 alliance is automatically the sensible thing to do. Obviously it increases the alliance being hit's chances of winning the round - but that doesn't necessarily mean that it increases your own alliance's chances of winning.
Ultimately, to get #1 alliance rank, you have to beat ALL the alliances above you - and any close behind you, not just the alliance that is currently #1.
Note: I'm not necessarily saying that hitting the current #1 alliance is a bad idea - sometimes it is definitely the best bet for your alliance. What I'm disagreeing with the is the concept espoused by yourself and others, which appears to be that so long as you keep hitting whoever is #1 your alliance is somehow automatically increasing it's own chances of winning. That belief is naive and incorrect.
As I've already mentioned in a different thread, AD is bedevilled by posters with a very one-dimensional view of PA politics. There is rarely a simple choice between two alternatives - one of which gives a good chance of #1, and the other of which gives no chance. Sometimes, when faced between two options, one alternative gives the best chance of getting #1 while the second gives the better overall finishing rank for your alliance.
I can't criticise posters on AD too much for naivety in politics: it would be unfair when I suspect many alliance HC haven't actually clearly identified their own alliance's goal beyond a vague "do as well as possible". For example, how many alliance leaderships have decided where they set their limits when it comes to risking all for a shot at #1? Do they want to do everything they can to get to #1 - even if it risks the alliance getting totally trashed - or would they prefer a more conservative approach, whereby the likelihood of getting #1 is reduced but the risk of total ruin is largely eliminated?
I'd like to see PA politics move beyond the stage of "let's hit alliance X because they're doing well" to a point where alliances properly consider what's in their best interest. I've seen some political decisions made this round that, if properly considered, were very clearly not in the alliance's best interest.
One such example was Insomnia joining LCH+Hydra to hit 1up. Before you all start saying "well he would say that as he doesn't want 1up to be hit" you should ask yourself a few questions:
1. What would happen if they didn't assist LCH+Hydra? How would that help/harm Insomnia?
2. What would the likely outcome be of them helping LCH+Hydra. How would that help Insomnia?
3. What would 1up's likely response be to Insomnia's options - how would these responses help/harm Insomnia?
I used Insomnia as an example as they're no longer in contention for #1. I'm not suggesting they've made the only (or worst) political decisions this round. And I'm NOT going to explain in detail why I think their decision was wrong: but a consideration of the questions posed above should lead to at least some understanding of why I think it was a bad move by them (and no, it's not that 1up are petty and will refuse to cooperate with someone who has attacked us - I'm not that short-sighted plus Insomnia did us a favour by attacking us, even though unintentionally).
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27 Aug 2005, 15:06
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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ur posts make no sence.
U dont really get a thing do u? I am saying why OTHERS dislike 1up. Or do u think the majority of pa community love em?
I never said owt about people not playing as hard as last round. What I said was that 1up has been best so far.
And having u thinking I am shit - well, for some reason I cant seem to care. sry.
U just seem like a bitter clueless/pointless troll.
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of course you wouldn't understand my post as every other word you write is abbreviated or shortened, in a manner that exposes that you don't use your brain to its full capacity (or do you) when reading/writing. But I don't count that against you. People who say that they "don't care" normally actually do care.
Another amazing revelation is that someone actually posrep'd me for calling you shit. that means, somewhere, somehow, someway, you have proven yourself to be shit to someone besides me.
How this relates to the topic? GG #Reunion
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27 Aug 2005, 15:13
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid
Sometimes, when faced between two options, one alternative gives the best chance of getting #1 while the second gives the better overall finishing rank for your alliance.
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Plus you always have to keep in mind that PA is at least until now a continuous game and that sometimes the community/the alliances treat you according to the actions you undertook during the round before.
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Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid
I suspect many alliance HC haven't actually clearly identified their own alliance's goal beyond a vague "do as well as possible".
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That's up to every HC to decide. We all know that 1up HC is taking the game very serious. Not everybody is that ambitious - and I am glad about it (plus it gives you a better chance of winning).
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Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid
For example, how many alliance leaderships have decided where they set their limits when it comes to risking all for a shot at #1?
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Setting limits is narrowing your room for decisions. No matter how well you prepare for this final question in the end the circumstances surrounding you at that time will play a dominant role and the best limit/rule you set upon yourself may not be applicable.
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Originally Posted by Synthetic_Sid
I'd like to see PA politics move beyond the stage of "let's hit alliance X because they're doing well" to a point where alliances properly consider what's in their best interest. I've seen some political decisions made this round that, if properly considered, were very clearly not in the alliance's best interest.
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But then again those decision usually add some spice to the political landscape. It makes a round more unpredictable which sometimes means more fun.
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27 Aug 2005, 16:08
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The Scareh Clown
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
I agree with Sid in the respect that the pa politics can tend to be flat; there is little consideration for underlying politics. Ie, most people, particularly on AD, are busy accusing or claiming things so that their alliance look politically favourable to the rest of the pa populus. There is a lot of propaganda on AD, as their should be (note: war game), but I think Sid is pointing to the fact that alliances should become more self-involved and start fighting for themselves, with solid, 'chess-like' political manouvres that benefit their own alliance.
Yes, this is taking the game seriously, but we are talking majorally about the alliances towards the top end of the table. The further down you go the more 'fun' players have (which is absolutley fine).
If I were Reunion HC, right now, with the situation like it is, i'd be worried. Mainly because there is more attention right now focused on Reunion than any other alliance. Imo, more than 1up. So would people rather see 1up plummet down le table? Or would they rather Reunion fall. It comes down, at the moment, to who the alliance dislikes the most. That is who they will target. What Sid is trying to say, is why target an alliance for the sake of it, when it doesnt benefit you at all. Ie, switch on to the priorities around your universal rank.
Personally, Id have to agree with another point he makes: Id target below AND above, to obtain and maintain the best possible rank for my alliance.
But maybe thats why im not HC
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27 Aug 2005, 16:38
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
people in positions of authority in PA alliances, generally have the habit of getting tunnel vision. they come into a round with a pre-concieved "bad guy" and they set their sights on that particular alliance, and regardless of who does what, they tend to wait too long to realize who the enemy really is. I've seen this happen for a lot of rounds, Including this one.
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27 Aug 2005, 16:46
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NewDawn
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
hmms a new #1... /me starts spamming "EVERYONE HIT #1" propaganda..
Or not..
GL Reunion
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30 Aug 2005, 15:00
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Bolivian Alpaca
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
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Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk
people in positions of authority in PA alliances, generally have the habit of getting tunnel vision. they come into a round with a pre-concieved "bad guy" and they set their sights on that particular alliance, and regardless of who does what, they tend to wait too long to realize who the enemy really is. I've seen this happen for a lot of rounds, Including this one.
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The enemy is 1up. Clearleh!!!!
Seriously, it was not that hard to see that reunion was not going to hold that number 1 spot for long.
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30 Aug 2005, 20:38
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Custom User Title
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
haha.. I got neg repped for saying that ppl shud concentrate fire on 1up in this thread. And I thought I was immature....
Edit: There comes another one "for whinging about neg rep and calling people immature for it."
Keep em coming lads
ps. If you have balls, leave ur nick. It's not like I can hurt you in any way. I can hack about as much as Luxembourg can play soccer.
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30 Aug 2005, 21:19
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Käptn Karacho
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
ITT Sid helps other alliances beat 1up
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31 Aug 2005, 01:17
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Re: Congratulations #Reunion
once, Sid saved this cat from this tree, like. and we were like, oh my days. but he did it without breaking a sweat lawl. when i hope to become synthetic_jer.
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