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7 Apr 2006, 22:55
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travler
welcome to this forums. please stick around for a while.
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7 Apr 2006, 23:16
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Heh, Leeds !
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Re: travler
He is as funny as muslim
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7 Apr 2006, 23:21
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Re: travler
Thanks. Sorry if I offend anyone by throwing in scripture. I feel moved to share the word.
In truth I used to feel the same way about Christians, Jesus Freaks, Fishers of Men, ect. Then God just sort of slapped me hard a few times until I finally got it.
The Forums are fun at times and we share ideas about PA, the world, our beliefs. Even those not talking about a faith or religeon will reveal what they believe in. If you talk about getting drunk all the time then thats what you live for. I just feel led to discuss faith for some reason. Like there is someone that had to be reached. It may not even be the people that respond to my posts or hit the pos/neg rep radio buttons. It could be someone that is just reading and thinking about God and what purpose they have in life.
Well KoeN thanks for welcoming me to the forums. We had a bit in fun in R15 beta for sure.
Been registered for a year but I don't post very often. I first registered back in 2000 or 2001 during round 2 but I forgot the user name and password and the e-mail address I registered with has long been abandoned. Oh well. I guess it does not matter much then.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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7 Apr 2006, 23:24
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by Travler
In truth I used to feel the same way about Christians, Jesus Freaks, Fishers of Men, ect. Then God just sort of slapped me hard a few times until I finally got it.
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tell me what this god looked like and I'll have words.
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7 Apr 2006, 23:25
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Heh, Leeds !
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Re: travler
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tell me what this god looked like and I'll have words.
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He looks like Eric Clapton
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7 Apr 2006, 23:22
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Re: travler
or Guidance (for anyone as old as I)
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7 Apr 2006, 23:28
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Re: travler
hi trav
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7 Apr 2006, 23:55
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by horn
you seem nice to me, i like you.
however, be prepared to have arguments put to you if you wish to dicuss your faith. Just stay calm and enjoy the debate, it is nice here ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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8 Apr 2006, 00:01
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Tilting at windmills
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Re: travler
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it is ? ![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
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8 Apr 2006, 00:40
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Re: travler
All the interested already have access to a bible
But if you feel the need to discuss it anyway
then I do encourage you to make alot of threads to discuss it in
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8 Apr 2006, 02:21
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
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Re: travler
Hey I would like to say to whoever neg repped and wrote this:
"It angers me that you think you hav the right to preach to me. Why do you assume that my opinions and beliefs are worth less than yours? This is what angers me. You are a pretentious fool and I find what you say extremely offensive."
I am truly sorry. I live in a country where Freedom of speach is protected by law but since you do not want to read what I have written then that is ok with me. I would like to hear your beliefs and if you feel the need to get angry then maybe that is a part of your faith.
Your beliefs are no less of value simply because they are different. Why did you assume that I would think so little of what you believed in?' I mean If you believe that a blue toad from another galaxy was your version of a "Higher Power" then you are more than welcome to your own faith. No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all. If that is the case then I am sorry that you don't believe in anything and I hope you enjoyed the one holiday you have at the first of this month.
Not sure how pretentious I am but I am of course a fool. Anyone that follows God will be thought of as a fool.
Proverbs 14:8
The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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8 Apr 2006, 02:31
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Re: travler
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No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all.
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8 Apr 2006, 06:27
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I'm great!
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Re: travler
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No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all.
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Perhaps you should take a step back and look at what you write. Note that you talk about God and 'the LORD' and their teachings, the life of Jesus and the Christian sins as statements of fact and leave no room for personal interpretation or other beliefs. Let me offer you a few examples:
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Your salvation is waiting for you. You do not have to be afraid anymore. God truly loves you and wants to see you home.
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God does not want a bunch of lifeless robots strictly following all his laws without any passion. God forgives, he stopped punishing when Jesus laid down his life for us.
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Jesus loves you so therefore the Father loves you also.
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Also, as has already been highlighted by Yahwe, you are sitting there saying straight out that people who do not believe in any form of God are wrong. Surely you can see how saying something like that is likely to raise a few eyebrows?
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Proverbs 14:8
The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.
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I fail to see the relevance of the majority of your biblical quotations.
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8 Apr 2006, 12:08
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by HAL-9000
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at what you write. Note that you talk about God and 'the LORD' and their teachings, the life of Jesus and the Christian sins as statements of fact and leave no room for personal interpretation or other beliefs.
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Surely you would expect someone who believes in something to talk about it like it is fact, for example you wouldn't think it was odd if deepflow said something like 'drugs are the best thing ever', but for some reason you take exception to this, possibly because it is a religious belief rather than a more general one. Care to explain this?
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8 Apr 2006, 12:13
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by vampire_lestat
Surely you would expect someone who believes in something to talk about it like it is fact, for example you wouldn't think it was odd if deepflow said something like 'drugs are the best thing ever', but for some reason you take exception to this, possibly because it is a religious belief rather than a more general one. Care to explain this?
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Certainly in your example when deepflow says something like that I'd feel in saying he does so with an awareness of the subjectivity of his belief and a respect for the beliefs of others that is greater than what is evident in say
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Originally Posted by Travler
No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all. If that is the case then I am sorry that you don't believe in anything and I hope you enjoyed the one holiday you have at the first of this month.
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that pretentious piece of tripe.
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8 Apr 2006, 12:22
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
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Re: travler
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that pretentious piece of tripe.
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Did I hit a nerve or something? Or do you believe it? The fact is that people without faith cannot celebrate Ramadan, Christmas, Passover, ect. So what is left for them? You got it, April fools day. Call it pretentious but just try and refute it.
BTW this only includes the relgious types of holiday. Since most of use live in different countries National, State, Regional and Local holidays are not being considered here.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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The Illuminati - [NoS] - R14-13
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8 Apr 2006, 10:12
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
Why do you believe in Jesus Travler?
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Jesus touched his pee-pee
(well it was a religious man with a beard but he said he was Jesus)
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8 Apr 2006, 12:24
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Re: travler
since when is christmas a religious holiday?
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8 Apr 2006, 15:15
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Re: travler
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since when is christmas a religious holiday?
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it's the birthday of Sol Invictus
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8 Apr 2006, 12:43
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Tilting at windmills
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Re: travler
Suggesting that people are fools for not believing in religion is really rather ironic wouldn't you say?
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9 Apr 2006, 05:34
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
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Re: travler
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Suggesting that people are fools for not believing in religion is really rather ironic wouldn't you say?
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Not religion per say but just something greater. Religion's just have the holidays, rituals, supporters.
True belief in something comes from within. Most of us are born with a freeling that there is something more out there. When we try to suppress that feeling we have to fight it violently. It's kinda like a gaping hole that only faith/belief/spirituality can fill.
Most of us believe that we have a conscious and a soul. How do you quantify that soul? What calculations has science determined about the conscious? What is required to be conscious?
Do you believe you are alive? How do you explain your existance when you cannot understand how it is possible? Do you have enough faith to even believe that you are a real person?
Go beyond yourself and you start to understand that maybe there is something greater than you could begin to imagine.
I did not start out as some dyed in the wool "Christian." I started out where you are standing now; in disbelief, skepticism, and hatred for that which I refused to understand. It took over 30 years and millions of people for God to convince me that he was in fact God and he was right.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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9 Apr 2006, 06:11
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Beoyotch
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by Travler
True belief in something comes from within. Most of us are born with a freeling that there is something more out there. When we try to suppress that feeling we have to fight it violently. It's kinda like a gaping hole that only faith/belief/spirituality can fill.
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I would appreciate that you would not suggest that I have holes which need to be filled by "faith/belief/spirituality". I am competely happy with life, and have no reason to complicate life with folklore.
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Most of us believe that we have a conscious and a soul. How do you quantify that soul?
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Again, speak for yourself. I have no reason to justify my death, with ideas that my "soul" will go on to some sort of after life. I am comfortable knowing my body will rot, and be consumed by bugs.
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Do you believe you are alive? How do you explain your existance when you cannot understand how it is possible? Do you have enough faith to even believe that you are a real person?
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Without going to a philisophical debate on what it is to be alive, then of course I am alive. I am responding to your post, aren't I? Unless this is god speaking...*spooky ghost voice*
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Go beyond yourself and you start to understand that maybe there is something greater than you could begin to imagine.
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Find yourself and you may start to understand that you have been brainwashed.
G'day sir.
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9 Apr 2006, 08:27
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Re: travler
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True belief in something comes from within. Most of us are born with a freeling that there is something more out there.
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Most people don't believe in time dilation, but one of these things has been repeatedly proven by evidence and one... one hasn't.
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When we try to suppress that feeling we have to fight it violently.
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Nope. Wacky assumptions win the day again!
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Most of us believe that we have a conscious and a soul. How do you quantify that soul?
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First you'd have to prove that it exists.
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What calculations has science determined about the conscious? What is required to be conscious?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience
Unfortunately the brain, as a giant, hugely interconnected, chemical reaction is quite difficult to explain, like trying to reverse engineer a quantum computer.
What exactly do you mean by "What calculations" anyway? Science isn't a method of quantification.
Science is the only logical way of proving a statement is true.
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Do you believe you are alive? How do you explain your existance when you cannot understand how it is possible?
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When I wrong "[/quote]" there, my brain told me to write "[/ignoring]", make of that what you will.
Anyway, I do believe I'm alive, because it's the explanation which does not multiply entities unnecessarily. As to the second sentence, if we ignore the Weak Anthropic principle, then the only real problems that we have concerning "explaining" why we exist comes in term of what happened before the big bang, which is a meaningless question by definition. Please clarify further what you mean.
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Do you have enough faith to even believe that you are a real person?
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False dichotomy. You don't need faith to believe that what appears to be true through measurement is true, as that's the only logical and rational standpoint.
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Go beyond yourself and you start to understand that maybe there is something greater than you could begin to imagine.
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Maybe there is, but that doesn't mean that we should assume it exists when there's no evidence for it, and, if we assume the bible to be the relevent text, quite a lot of evidence against.
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I started out where you are standing now; in disbelief, skepticism, and hatred for that which I refused to understand.
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Hatred? You have some person problems, my friend. I don't hate religious people, and I doubt many if any here do either.
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It took over 30 years and millions of people for God to convince me that he was in fact God and he was right.
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Surely if God wanted to prove he was right, he could come down from the heavens to convince us? Jesus could arrive on earth and show us those scars, those wounds from the cross. Why is God such a bastard that he permits Doubting Thomas, who, let us not forget, was around, supposedly, at the time of Jesus' miracles, a free ticket into heaven, but not the rest of us? Let me see the marks of the nails, let me touch them and put my hand in the wound at his side.
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9 Apr 2006, 08:39
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Re: travler
I had a great and lovely post made, and then MrL_Jakiri went and trumped it. Back to ye olde drawing board!
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10 Jul 2006, 00:32
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Bona Fide Jesus Freak
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Re: travler
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Surely if God wanted to prove he was right, he could come down from the heavens to convince us?
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Jesus already came to earth. You chose to ignore the sacrifice he made for you.
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Jesus could arrive on earth and show us those scars, those wounds from the cross. Why is God such a bastard that he permits Doubting Thomas, who, let us not forget, was around, supposedly, at the time of Jesus' miracles, a free ticket into heaven, but not the rest of us?
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It's called free will and it is available to all who choose to believe and ask Jesus to come into their hearts.
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Let me see the marks of the nails, let me touch them and put my hand in the wound at his side.
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If you have to wait until this time to get the "Proof" you need it will be too late.
One day all the Christians and true believers will disappear. A so-called savior will arrive and everyone will think that he is the truth. This man will be the anti-christ. He will try to brand everyone with his mark and those that are branded will be doomed to hell. Jesus will return and vanquish the enemy for once and all. Those that are called, choosen, and faithfull will be rewarded in heaven. God will not have mercy on the rest.
Don't be on the wrong side when this happens. It will be horrible and I would not wish it on any of you. I pray that you learn the truth of the Love of Lord before it is too late. God gave his only son so that we would be saved. Nothing but Jesus can provide that salvation. Please know that God loves you and wants to see you home.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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8 Apr 2006, 13:05
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Re: travler
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I for one celebrate the day Jesus died...
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the first or second time?
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8 Apr 2006, 18:43
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Re: travler
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Whichever time, as long as he's dead I'm happy.
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You never actually finished the bible did you?
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8 Apr 2006, 14:00
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Re: travler
This is getting good, travler has gotten off his high horse and fallen into hell
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8 Apr 2006, 15:37
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Re: travler
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I for one celebrate the day Jesus died...
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you goddamned ****ing jews! still celebrating 2000 years after you narced on him!
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8 Apr 2006, 15:37
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Re: travler
I have no problem with any form of religion.
I personally believe organized religion is pointless for myself.
People who shove their religion down your throat should be taken out back and shot. All it does is distance yourself from the general public, and turn yourself into the crazy guy yelling on a crate, on the corner.
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8 Apr 2006, 15:50
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Re: travler
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People who shove their religion down your throat should be taken out back and shot. All it does is distance yourself from the general public, and turn yourself into the crazy guy yelling on a crate, on the corner.
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I see you've met travler before
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8 Apr 2006, 18:10
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Re: travler
Blowjobs, blowjobs.. I shall keep ranting about blowjobs from now on
until everyone on this forum believes he should give me one
How on earth can you guys celebrate christmas without blowjobs?
Blowsjobs existed way before the first cumming of Christ
Don't worry, I shall not ram my religion down your throat to hard
I respect your own religion too ofc, as long as you feel my piece
Religious scriptures you say? Quotes you say? Stories? A holy book?
Who needs all that when you can have it in .wmv files
Let's all meditate on that one, I hope you all feel enlightened now
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8 Apr 2006, 18:46
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Re: travler
People, I now want discuss the meaning of life
Any thoughts? Any suggestions?
Ow ow I've read that one too
Great explanation that one was
Too bad we still don't have a clue
Except me then ofcourse
Because I read this great book, about going really deep
written in the 4th century and stuff.. Yeah..
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8 Apr 2006, 19:22
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Re: travler
it's pretty much common sense squidly.
Do you think anyone actually noted down the exact date that 'Jesus' was born? (in fact is it even mentioned in the bible?)
When one religion takes over another, they absorb a lot of bits and pieces in order to make the change more palatable to the converted.
For winter solstice read christmas, spring solstice read easter etc etc.
I'd advise reading this if you want to learn a bit more about it.
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Re: travler
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it's pretty much common sense squidly.
Do you think anyone actually noted down the exact date that 'Jesus' was born? (in fact is it even mentioned in the bible?)
When one religion takes over another, they absorb a lot of bits and pieces in order to make the change more palatable to the converted.
For winter solstice read christmas, spring solstice read easter etc etc.
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Yeah, I know there's a fair bit of inconsistency with all religion. I don't actually follow one myself, but I find it still a really interesting topic to read up on. I was christian once, but I dropped that a long time ago due to said inconsistencies.
Thank ye for the link =)
btw...if jesus died to save santa, does that mean we're about to see easter bunny vs toothfairy smackdown style?
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Re: travler
I thought christmas was when Jesus died to save santa claus and thats why we celebrate it.
Because Santa lived.
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8 Apr 2006, 19:49
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Re: travler
Santa killed Jesus?
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9 Apr 2006, 02:18
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Re: travler
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Santa killed Jesus?
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Why do you have two urban myths in your sig?
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9 Apr 2006, 01:31
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1up on you
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Re: travler
I think on a job application I put I was Roman Catholic, on another application I became Muslim.
I got a telephone interview for being Muslim.
You do the math!
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9 Apr 2006, 02:01
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deserves a medal
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Re: travler
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I think on a job application I put I was Roman Catholic, on another application I became Muslim.
I got a telephone interview for being Muslim.
You do the math!
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The lord works in mysterious ways indeed
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11 Apr 2006, 22:14
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Re: travler
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The lord works in mysterious ways indeed
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![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif) That tickled me.
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presumably this has to be mainstream news not 'omg 2 penguins were killed by an eskimo last night at 2am. local police chief Iwakoa Sanjo has said that the brutal murderers will be brought to justice snow style'.
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9 Apr 2006, 05:05
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Re: travler
Folklore is better then reality.
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11 Apr 2006, 14:49
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Re: travler
Science will probably never 'explain' consciousness in the sense that you mean, but saying "God did it" doesnt really get us anywhere. If youre unhappy about consciousness being an unknown mystery, then why dont you feel the same need to ask questions like "but why does God exist?". Theres more unsolvable puzzles in Christian dogma than there is in just taking consciousness as a bizarre-yet-brute fact, although admittedly neither is particularly satisfactory.
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9 Apr 2006, 22:11
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Re: travler
I saw that Travler asked the question "Do you believe you're alive?".
I think that it is a silly question because why would you do things if you thought you were dead.
Obviously, you might be dead, but if thats true then we all have a shared illusion of being alive, and therefore it is as good as beeing alive anyway.
Think of people being in the Matrix. They didn't know they were in the Matrix until they were told. Same with us, as long as we assume we aren't dead then we're alive, whether we are or not.
PS. God sucks. He's probably gay too.
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10 Apr 2006, 04:56
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Re: travler
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Originally Posted by KaneED
I saw that Travler asked the question "Do you believe you're alive?".
I think that it is a silly question because why would you do things if you thought you were dead.
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Habit perhaps. Unfinished business maybe. The point is that how do you define your existance? What makes you alive besides "Well of course I am alive."
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Obviously, you might be dead, but if thats true then we all have a shared illusion of being alive, and therefore it is as good as beeing alive anyway.
Think of people being in the Matrix. They didn't know they were in the Matrix until they were told. Same with us, as long as we assume we aren't dead then we're alive, whether we are or not.
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So would you be happy being with living the lie or knowing the truth?
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PS. God sucks. He's probably gay too.
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Not homosexual if thats what you mean. I really love the daughters of Eve, perhaps too much.
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Matthew 24:9 (New International Version) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me."
Who the hell gave you posrep you christian fundamentalist?
god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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10 Apr 2006, 06:12
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I'm great!
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Re: travler
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So would you be happy being with living the lie or knowing the truth?
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If you didnt know the truth then surely living the lie would be just the same as living knowing the truth. After all, reality is just our perception of the world. In other words, you would not know that you were living a lie and thus you would not care, so that question of yours is silly.
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10 Apr 2006, 06:59
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Beoyotch
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Re: travler
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Habit perhaps. Unfinished business maybe. The point is that how do you define your existance? What makes you alive besides "Well of course I am alive."
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My purpose on this planet is to plant my seed and die. That is the definition of my existance. I feel most "alive" when taking large risks involving my health and well being.
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So would you be happy being with living the lie or knowing the truth?
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To "know" the truth is not something even your faith can provide you.
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Not homosexual if thats what you mean. I really love the daughters of Eve, perhaps too much. ![Biggrin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Good to know we agree on something.
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10 Apr 2006, 09:19
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: travler
Stop responding to this guy until he responds to me, guys. You're giving him easy targets
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Habit perhaps. Unfinished business maybe. The point is that how do you define your existance? What makes you alive besides "Well of course I am alive."
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What is required to make me alive? To my mind, the relevent requirements are things like the ability for conscious thought, which I possess. Whether I am alive or not from the perspective of some unknown entity which holds dominion over something or other is utterly irrelevent, because that's a contextual redefinition of "alive" and doesn't really make much difference.
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I really love the daughters of Eve, perhaps too much. ![Biggrin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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The one on the left or the one on the right?
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10 Apr 2006, 14:28
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I am.
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Re: travler
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Stop responding to this guy until he responds to me, guys. You're giving him easy targets ![Mad](images/smilies/mad.gif)
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he seems incapable of replying to any serious argument.
he's an appalling charlatan.
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10 Apr 2006, 15:33
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: travler
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he seems incapable of replying to any serious argument.
he's an appalling charlatan.
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I agree entirely, lets get into a backslapping circlejerk.
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