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Unread 27 May 2004, 17:59   #1
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[Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
The new Scotland Captain, is 20 year old Darren Fletcher. After 6 caps, 1 goal, and one full season in the premiership.


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I couldnt be happier Normally youd think "oh, he has to have strong leadership attributes or he wouldnt be picked" but this is Vogts.

However.. on the field Fletcher is influential for us. He seems to always put in a good shift (and i think once he gets a decent chance in the centre for man utd, he'll show that then). He's one of only three Scotland players who should be given a guarenteed place in the team (McFadden, McNamara) and as such, id rather have him captain than someone who shouldnt even be on the field.

Maybe, just maybe, we'll beat Estonia tonight.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
obligatory Quashie for scotland post
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Is Gallagher in the squad?

If not is he in the the U-21 squad if they are playing/played?
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
Scotland squad

Goalkeepers: Paul Gallacher (Dundee United), Craig Gordon (Hearts), Scott Shearer (Coventry City)

Defenders: Gary Caldwell (Hibernian), Steven Caldwell (Newcastle United), Malcolm Mackay (Norwich City), Jackie McNamara (Celtic), David McNamee (Livingston), Steve Pressley (Hearts), Andy Webster (Hearts), Jamie McAllister (Livingston)

Midfielders: Darren Fletcher (Manchester United), Gary Holt (Norwich City), Richard Hughes (Portsmouth), Brian Kerr (Newcastle United), Nigel Quashie (Portsmouth), Lee McCulloch (Wigan Athletic)

Forwards: Stephen Crawford (Dunfermline Athletic), Kevin Kyle (Sunderland), James McFadden (Everton), Kenny Miller (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
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He's better than Miller . He was just unlucky to have his debut when they got thrashed against Wales.
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He'll never be better than Kevin Kyle
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got thrashed against Wales.
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When im next at Hampden i'm going to boo him. Nothing against black players - its not even a "englishman" dispute as such - its the fact he chose to play for England before, and now hes trying to play for us.

No thankyou, please go back south of the border.

Gallagher either withdrew or was injured i think, we've had 13 call offs.

Kevin Kyle is not fit for tonights game.

Malky Mackay has a fitness test i believe.

McNamara isnt there because his wife is pregnant. He might make our game on sunday though.
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Keano is back for Ireland tonight <3 <3 <3
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
On a lighter note, we're trying to get Palace thrown out of the playoffs, because of their fans at the leg at Selhurst.

I'm surprised 'Mob of Crystal Palace fans attacks Sunderland Disabled Section' wasn't in the news more, but then Gary McCallister purposefully injuring 2 sunderland players wasn't either, so I'm used to being ignored.
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That was quite good wasn't it heh.
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Scotland squad

Goalkeepers: Paul Gallacher (Dundee United), Craig Gordon (Hearts), Scott Shearer (Coventry City)

Defenders: Gary Caldwell (Hibernian), Steven Caldwell (Newcastle United), Malcolm Mackay (Norwich City), Jackie McNamara (Celtic), David McNamee (Livingston), Steve Pressley (Hearts), Andy Webster (Hearts), Jamie McAllister (Livingston)

Midfielders: Darren Fletcher (Manchester United), Gary Holt (Norwich City), Richard Hughes (Portsmouth), Brian Kerr (Newcastle United), Nigel Quashie (Portsmouth), Lee McCulloch (Wigan Athletic)

Forwards: Stephen Crawford (Dunfermline Athletic), Kevin Kyle (Sunderland), James McFadden (Everton), Kenny Miller (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
I havent even heard of almost half these people.

actually ive heard of 10 from the 21.
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When im next at Hampden i'm going to boo him. Nothing against black players - its not even a "englishman" dispute as such - its the fact he chose to play for England before, and now hes trying to play for us..
It's the ones who give him stick at FP I'm worried about.

I think Richard Hughes will impress you more anyhoo
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
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It's the ones who give him stick at FP I'm worried about.

I think Richard Hughes will impress you more anyhoo
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Youre breeding em young now Lok FS!
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10yr old barred from every football ground in Britain for 3 years for his park in March's riots at FP.

Youre breeding em young now Lok FS!
what's more shocking is the 14 year old girl that got convicted
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what's more shocking is the 14 year old girl that got convicted
Itll be a real strain on her to be away from her 2 kids.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
James McFadden : superstar

He'd walk into the England team up front, or on the left wing.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
Yeah right, Sven really wants left wingers
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
We have Steven Gerrard, why do we need anyone else for the Left?

Seriously though, if he doesn't start Lampard and Gerrard in the middle I'll kick him. In the nuts.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
It will be Scholes and Lampard in the middle with Gerrard on the left assuming they are all fit for the first game.

I will bet my house on that.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
So we're all certain on the starting XI?
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
What about Nicky Butt?

Sven seems to have some obsession with him, despite Parker being fitter, bringing more to the team and with the potential to benefit more
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So we're all certain on the starting XI?
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Neville Terry Campbell Cole (A)

Beckham Scholes Gerrard Lampard/Butt

Rooney Owen.

It's not going to be anything else.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
I agree but with Lampard not Butt.

Does Neville *have* to play?
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
Who would you play? Carragher? Neville P?
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
I dunno - just hopin there was alternatives.
I just dont have confidence in him.
And he annoys me - he always shouts and looks like "what have I done" when hes blatantly just taken a player out for because he's too slow!
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
I don't like Neville, he's way too arrogant.

Glen Johnson can't mature fast enough.
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Re: [Football] Gogo gadget desperate measures
Does anyone know if Darren Fletcher captained the u-21 side for an extended stint?

However I am impressed that he has made this decision possibly based on having a long running captaincy. Sometimes consistentcy in a team is what helps win through.

I'd like to think the Wales squad enjoyed one of their best qualifying campaigns due to the fact that the team they used had been one they had together for quite a few years.
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i never understood why they took berti vogts, of all people. :/
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G.Neville is a suprisingly good player when he's got beckham in front of him
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i never understood why they took berti vogts, of all people. :/
1996 was impressive dont you think so?
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