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Unread 16 May 2004, 16:26   #1
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[Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Now this summer, the tabloids are going to talk various degrees of pish about player X joining team Y when said player is a crucial part of said team, etc etc. So , i will now list 5 of the key "Rumoured to be moving" players , and id like GD to provide a figure on that player should they move.

1. Steven Gerrard
2. David Beckham
3. Hernan Crespo
4. Jonathan Woodgate
5. Wayne Rooney

Begin!

[Editors Note : The answers contained in here will have relevance to a thread i plan on posting later tonight]
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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Now this summer, the tabloids are going to talk various degrees of pish about player X joining team Y when said player is a crucial part of said team, etc etc. So , i will now list 5 of the key "Rumoured to be moving" players , and id like GD to provide a figure on that player should they move.

1. Steven Gerrard
2. David Beckham
3. Hernan Crespo
4. Jonathan Woodgate
5. Wayne Rooney

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1) Cant see him moving this season so would have to be a huge offer seeing as liverpool finished 4th - £35mil

2) £25mil

3) £12 mil

4) £10 mil

5) Dont think Everton can afford to refuse anything approaching £25 mil.
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Unread 16 May 2004, 16:38   #4
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
You missed out Ronaldinho who will move for 60 mil and hence piss on every transfer fee gone before him

[Editors Note : The UK Tabloids wont give a shit about that because hes not coming to or moving from England, hence no relevance]

Gerrard won't move.

Beckham will be 32.5 million purely because he's a market brand.

Crespo will be 12.5 mil prolly

Woodgate is about 14 mil

I think rooney will go for 17.5 mil.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
1. Steven Gerrard - £30mil would be enough to make Liverpool accept I think.

2. David Beckham - £27mil, mainly due to the advertising revenue he brings in for Madrid

3. Hernan Crespo - £12mil

4. Jonathan Woodgate - £14mil

5. Wayne Rooney - £10mil, I don't think Everton could afford to refuse it really.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
As for the Gerrard fee, it may be that they accept an amount, but unless it's really quite big they may not pressure him into leaving, mistake though it is.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
1. Steven Gerrard £30m
2. David Beckham £35m
3. Hernan Crespo £5m
4. Jonathan Woodgate £10m
5. Wayne Rooney £20m
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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You missed out Ronaldinho who will move for 60 mil and hence piss on every transfer fee gone before him

[Editors Note : The UK Tabloids wont give a shit about that because hes not coming to or moving from England, hence no relevance]

[Posters Note : Never say Never ala Beckham last season, Ronaldinho has been linked with Chelsea believe it or not. Then again who hasn't, hence Relevance.]

Gerrard won't move.

Beckham will be 32.5 million purely because he's a market brand.

Crespo will be 12.5 mil prolly

Woodgate is about 14 mil

I think rooney will go for 17.5 mil.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Was that "never say never" "Gerrard won't move" intentional?
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
No but then again Gerrard isn't an ecotistical cockhead with a dolly bit on his side.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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No but then again Gerrard isn't an ecotistical cockhead with a dolly bit on his side.
What have you got against Florentino Perez?
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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No but then again Gerrard isn't an ecotistical cockhead with a dolly bit on his side.
Gerrard wasnt physically assaulted by his manager and isnt being forced out of his club either ....
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Imho Gerrard and Rooney won't move and neither will Woodgate because Newcastle wouldn't be willing to sell him except for a massive bid, but here's what I'd expect them all to go for were they to do so:

1. 30m
2. 25m
3. 12.5m
4. 15m
5. 16.5m
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
You left Jenas of your list and

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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
1. Steven Gerrard - £25m
2. David Beckham - £30m
3. Hernan Crespo - £10m
4. Jonathan Woodgate - £11m
5. Wayne Rooney - £20m
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
I'm proud to say that I haven't heard any of those names before (except beckham)
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Rooney would go for about 15mil i reckon, everton are a bit strapped atm if were to believe the media
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Crespo + Woodgate = bargins
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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Crespo + Woodgate = bargins
Based on this seasons performance do you really think Crespo at £12mill-ish is a bargain!?
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Based on this seasons performance do you really think Crespo at £12mill-ish is a bargain!?
You don't base a player's ability or value on a few games though.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
1. Steven Gerrard 18m
2. David Beckham 22m
3. Hernan Crespo 12m
4. Jonathan Woodgate 12m
5. Wayne Rooney 14m
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Steven Gerrard 23m
David Beckham 25m
Hernan Jorge Crespo 15m
Jonathan Woodgate 14m
Wayne Rooney 20m

But seriously, I can't see Gerrard leaving. He's, I quote, Liverpool thick and through. Wayne Rooney will reject a move & Moyes will want to keep him for he gave him the chance to shine in the big stage even if Everton accepts a bid.
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You don't base a player's ability or value on a few games though.
No you base it on the best available evidence. The evidence that is best for Crespo, in terms of an English club signing him, is to see how he's faired in English football. On this evidence I'd refute the idea he'd be a bargain. Although of course, one would consider other things if you were from a team outside the Premier.
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No you base it on the best available evidence. The evidence that is best for Crespo, in terms of an English club signing him, is to see how he's faired in English football. On this evidence I'd refute the idea he'd be a bargain. Although of course, one would consider other things if you were from a team outside the Premier.
One goal every two games is pretty good.

also consider that he has never had a really long run in the team and hence cant get any real consistency. Although if chelsea did decide to sell him id imagine they wouldnt really try to go for as high a price as possible.
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No you base it on the best available evidence. The evidence that is best for Crespo, in terms of an English club signing him, is to see how he's faired in English football. On this evidence I'd refute the idea he'd be a bargain. Although of course, one would consider other things if you were from a team outside the Premier.

Erm, ok. I'd guess that the chances of Crespo going abroad are FAR higher than him moving to another English club. Who else apart from Liverpool, Man U, Arsen*l or Newcastle would he even cosider going to? Would any of them afford/want him?

If he goes, he's going abroad most probably. That makes whatever you said above completely meaningless.
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No you base it on the best available evidence. The evidence that is best for Crespo, in terms of an English club signing him, is to see how he's faired in English football. On this evidence I'd refute the idea he'd be a bargain. Although of course, one would consider other things if you were from a team outside the Premier.
He has a scoring record of about 1 in 2 for Chelsea. When you consider that this is his first season adapting to the pace of the Premiership and he has never been given a proper run in the team thats not a bad ratio.


Edit: I was typing that while Zharkov said the same thing .
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If he goes, he's going abroad most probably. That makes whatever you said above completely meaningless.
It doesnt at all. I said if
I also think if you were a manager abroad, you'd be more likely to buy him last summer than this because of his record this season (JC/Zharkov - surely it's accepted (I've even heard him say it)he's not done anywhere near as much as he should have!)
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Based on this seasons performance do you really think Crespo at £12mill-ish is a bargain!?
When Crespo adapts, he will be a bargain. Or he'll go to Italy/Spain say he hated England and score tons.

People though Angel was shite last season, this time round he scored tons, and Crespo is way ahead of Angel.
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Crespo is very overrated.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Gerard : £30 million (best player on that list maybe; but i wonder who would have the balls to pay more than £30m - or even £30 million for someone whos name isnt going to be on the scoresheet every week, or maybe even on the assist list for all the part time fans)

Beckham : £32.5 million (Real madrid will want to make a profit, chelsea will pay up to £35m, becks and vic would probably like to come home maybe i dont know)

Crespo : £7m. And i pity the club that takes him

Woodgate : £15m. I dont rate him as high as everyone seems to but if his value was £12m and everyones crawled further up his arse then his value will have gone up.

Rooney : £17m. Everton fans will say hes worth more, i say hes not worth half that

Incidently i think only Crespo and Woodgate have any likelihood of going.

And why wasnt frank lampard on this List Kura? Schoolboy error!
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Gerard : £30 million (best player on that list maybe; but i wonder who would have the balls to pay more than £30m - or even £30 million for someone whos name isnt going to be on the scoresheet every week, or maybe even on the assist list for all the part time fans)

Beckham : £32.5 million (Real madrid will want to make a profit, chelsea will pay up to £35m, becks and vic would probably like to come home maybe i dont know)

Crespo : £7m. And i pity the club that takes him

Woodgate : £15m. I dont rate him as high as everyone seems to but if his value was £12m and everyones crawled further up his arse then his value will have gone up.

Rooney : £17m. Everton fans will say hes worth more, i say hes not worth half that

Incidently i think only Crespo and Woodgate have any likelihood of going.

And why wasnt frank lampard on this List Kura? Schoolboy error!
Because I get to read the English newspapers on a daily basis Deffeh , and guess what, not a single column inch has at any point been devoted to Frank Lampard leaving Chelsea. Im puzzled as to why you even brought it up.

Gerrard has been linked to both Chelsea and Man U
Crespo has been linked to every club in Italy , and then some
Woodgate has been linked with Man U
Beckham has been linked with Chelsea , Man U , Arsenal , and a swop deal for Ronaldinho
Rooney has been linked with Chelsea , Man U , Arsenal , and various clubs across Europe.

Frank Lampard has, to date, not been linked with a move from a huge , rich club where hes a star player. Seems pretty straightforward to me
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Woodgate is going to Arsenal coz he's knocking that Kate Lawler off Given too apparently

Thats from a completely non-biased news publication up here
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Because I get to read the English newspapers on a daily basis Deffeh , and guess what, not a single column inch has at any point been devoted to Frank Lampard leaving Chelsea. Im puzzled as to why you even brought it up.

Gerrard has been linked to both Chelsea and Man U
Crespo has been linked to every club in Italy , and then some
Woodgate has been linked with Man U
Beckham has been linked with Chelsea , Man U , Arsenal , and a swop deal for Ronaldinho
Rooney has been linked with Chelsea , Man U , Arsenal , and various clubs across Europe.

Frank Lampard has, to date, not been linked with a move from a huge , rich club where hes a star player. Seems pretty straightforward to me
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/3718871.stm

"Lampard future in jeopardy"

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...135409,00.html

"Lampard Bridge exit looms"

(theres another planetfootball article with him rubbishing earlier suggestions of a move to man utd)

http://www.football365.com/teams/che...y_110106.shtml

"Agent : Lampard ready to quit blues"

Enough for you kura?
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does anyone know how big the budget of man utd is?
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Thats from a completely non-biased news publication up here
Weirdest rumour in that department has to be Smith knobbing Dido.
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It's true tho about Kate Lawler & Woodgate.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Would Woodgate move? it's his first season at Newcastle and they need him.
Wouldn't you say they are a big club? (obviously not in Manu terms but still)

Anyway - Gerrard - £40m
Beckham - £30m
Crespo - £13m
Woodgate - £15m
Rooney - £25m

What do people reckon about Andy Reid and Michael Dawson from Forest?
Apparently Reid is on his way to Tottenham for £5m + Rohan Ricketts.
Liverpool are chasing Dawson... should get at least £7m for him, if he goes...
We'd be mad to sell them both tho...
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
We offered you like 6 mil or so for the pair in January but you turned it down. Now we're just after Reid i believe.

You rate him at 10 million, we offered 5. I doubt we'll end up getting rid of Ricketts, assuming we kick Pleat out as soon as we can. He seems to have some personal issues with Ricketts
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
The official offer is £5m plus Ricketts, or so Kinnear says.
I think we've pretty much accepted it too annoyingly, just waiting to see if anyone bids higher (an auction would be nice!)
We're meant to be basing our team around Dawson and Morgan in central defence so i doubt either of them will go...
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
Woodgate rated at £50m!!!!!

Thats just stupid.
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Crespo + Woodgate = bargins
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Woodgate hmm what a bargain!
I'd doubt they'd turn down an offer of £12-15m, the only problem with Woodgate is he's injury prone.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/3718871.stm

"Lampard future in jeopardy"

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...135409,00.html

"Lampard Bridge exit looms"

(theres another planetfootball article with him rubbishing earlier suggestions of a move to man utd)

http://www.football365.com/teams/che...y_110106.shtml

"Agent : Lampard ready to quit blues"

Enough for you kura?
Thats whats known as "Breaking News" Deffeh. I dont recall seeing that on any Sunday Newspaper headlines (you did note the articles are all dated and timed around 10-11am on Sunday, once the papers were out). , and thus the relevance to a thread generated 4-5 hours later based on Newspaper Stories simply doesnt exist.

Simply put Deffeh , im not psychic. I cannot foresee tomorrows newspaper headlines.
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Re: [Football] Its been said that every player has his price
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Thats whats known as "Breaking News" Deffeh. I dont recall seeing that on any Sunday Newspaper headlines (you did note the articles are all dated and timed around 10-11am on Sunday, once the papers were out). , and thus the relevance to a thread generated 4-5 hours later based on Newspaper Stories simply doesnt exist.

Simply put Deffeh , im not psychic. I cannot foresee tomorrows newspaper headlines.
I've been seeing these reports on websites (ie football365, bbc) for weeks.
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[Editors Note : The answers contained in here will have relevance to a thread i plan on posting later tonight]
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When's this thread coming?
Shortly , just finishing something ,got distracted last night
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