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Unread 23 Nov 2008, 22:23   #1
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The Obama Nation

It has taken me a few weeks but I have decided not to commit suicide.

I think it may be amusing to watch what happens and the rationalizations which will be used to justify measures which will be aimed at ending the two-party system in the United States.

I know that, by-and-large, the world and certainly the overwhelming majority of GDer's are happy with the results of the American elections. I don't think that this is irrefutable proof that the decision was wrong, however, it is a strong argument. The fact that some 95$ of print journalists voted Democratic does not bode well for objective reporting or for any form of external restraint on Democratic aspirations.

However, I thought Bush was going to be conservative and was wildly disappointed. Perhaps, Obama supporters will find that they were as wrong as I was. If that is the case there is still hope.

Then again, maybe MM will meet a nice girl, settle down and raise a family, but I wouldn't want to bet the farm on it.
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Re: The Obama Nation

He'll be boring and adopt 'conservative' and 'liberal' (whatever they mean in the US these days) as he sees fit, I guess. He seems to be the kind of chap who sits back and goes through a methodical process to make decisions and I think you should take a little heart from that.
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I'm definitely not happy, Michelle Bachmann won her race.
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I think it may be amusing to watch what happens and the rationalizations which will be used to justify measures which will be aimed at ending the two-party system in the United States.
I think that's perhaps going a little bit far isn't it?
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Can the "journalist" from Fox News who have taken control over dda's account please log off?
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I think that's perhaps going a little bit far isn't it?
Perhaps he's confusing now with 8 years ago and Karl Rove's goal of a permanent republican majority.
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Perhaps he's confusing now with 8 years ago and Karl Rove's goal of a permanent republican majority.
Wow, Rove certainly messed that one up, didn't he?
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Re: The Obama Nation

Going to have to agree with Lok here.
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Wow, Rove certainly messed that one up, didn't he?
All goals like that suffer from the problem that Republicans seem to inevitably destroy the economy or the world or both. They get back in after the Democrats fix things and the whole sorry cycle begins again.

Not that the Democrats are actually a good political party, they're just a lot less bad.
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However, I thought Bush was going to be conservative and was wildly disappointed. Perhaps, Obama supporters will find that they were as wrong as I was.
Who are all these people that believe Obama is going to bring paradise on earth then? Because frankly I don't really see them. A lot of people seem to have supported Obama simply because he was less likely to continue the Bush strategy of pointlessly ****ing about with the Middle East and the world in general than McCain was. And I think that is about as far as a good deal of people's expectations extend.

Personally I don't really think 'Boy, we're we gulible morons to support Bush - the people supporting Obama must be as bad as we were' is a hugely persuasive argument.

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Re: The Obama Nation

Also, if dda is the sort of person who would actually read the book that this thread takes it's name from, then I wouldn't be too surprised if he believes that Obama is going to cancel Christmas, force people's daughters into gay marriages, and seize all apple pie-making equipment, and that all Liberals sincerely believe he will do all the above and will cheer him on in doing so.

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"The Obama Nation" includes potentially offensive passages. Corsi writes that Obama's mother chose "men of color" from the "third world" to be her "mates," and that Obama identifies more with his "African blood" than his American roots.
And much more in a similar vein.

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Also, if dda is the sort of person who would actually read the book that this thread takes it's name from
That book appears to have been written by a Doctorate of Philosophy with no outside interference.
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All goals like that suffer from the problem that Republicans seem to inevitably destroy the economy or the world or both. They get back in after the Democrats fix things and the whole sorry cycle begins again.

Not that the Democrats are actually a good political party, they're just a lot less bad.
Oops. There for a moment I thought I has stumbled into the Science Fiction versus Fantasy thread.

But then I have never been a fan of revisionist history.
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Oops. There for a moment I thought I has stumbled into the Science Fiction versus Fantasy thread.

But then I have never been a fan of revisionist history.
darling if it's the last 30 years then it's just called history.

Your better argument is to say that the data from which he extropolates his conclusion is too limited and that we need at least another republican president before we can conclude that they are all shit - attack his sample!
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Oops. There for a moment I thought I has stumbled into the Science Fiction versus Fantasy thread.

But then I have never been a fan of revisionist history.
As Yahwe has said the sample size is small, but the Republican party today isn't really the same thing as it was under Eisenhower or even Nixon. Supply side economics is an abject failure and somehow the "fiscal conservatives" Reagan, Bush and Bush have managed to be the only presidents since WW2 under which the national debt as a proportion of GDP increased. I put it to you that this is not a coincidence.
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How do you feel now dda, that that Barak Hussain "Osama" has killed his Muslim bother in arms bin Laden?

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Oh obama obama obama obammmaaaa obama obama obammaaaaa

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Unread 9 May 2011, 23:59   #20
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They found Obama's brother in an arms bin?
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Unread 21 May 2011, 16:05   #21
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Unread 23 May 2011, 06:48   #22
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darling if it's the last 30 years then it's just called history.
And before that they wouldn't let a republican near anything important for quite a while after the great recession.
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