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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:04   #1
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Official Phraktos Statement

Official Phraktos Statement

'In the beginning', long before all worlds
Or flaming stars or whirling galaxies,
Before that first 'big bang', if such it was,
Or earlier contraction; back and back
Beyond all time or co-related space
And all that is and all that ever was
And all that yet will be; Source of the whole,
'In the beginning was the Word' of God

Now the apocalypse awaits us. The revelation us upon us.
The angels will be punished for their pride, envy, gluttony, anger,
greed and sloth. They're guilty in 6 of the 7 sins. Only lust they
cannot be guilty of, since we all know that Angels lack reproductive organs.

This is the time of revelation. This is the time the followers of the
fallen angel Lucifer and the Gods army shall be separated. Are you a
believer? Let us create new world order! Let us share the goods of the
heaven.

We could not tolerate the ongoing hatecampaign FAnG have ran for a while now.
We would no longer swallow their shallow threats and foolish
arguments. And certainly not let their plans about backstabbing us go untouched.
We now realize why everyone dislike FAnG, even their own members. Their entire
system is built upon fear. So why do most FAnG members stay in FAnG?
Because, of course, if they quit they'll get roided, no matter if they've been fang from
day 1 or just joined, no matter what they did, no matter what reason they got
kicked for. And again this doesn't breed a good alliance, since good alliances
are built on mutual respect, knowledge, activity, reasoning and facts, NOT fear
and threats.

Planetarion isn't meant to be a game of fear, but a game of FUN!


We hereby decleare war on FAnG!
Let the fun begin


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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:07   #2
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

Posting before kjeldoran.




PS Which side will MISTU take? I'm guessing FAnG so will phraktos be allying with wolfpack (and possibly others) to take the numbers advantage back? I imagine you won't have too many problems looking for alliances who are willing to **** FAnG judging by what I've heard so far this round.
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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:09   #3
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

maybe he's asleep and hasn't been called yet
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

krush - to be honest the plan to backstab one another was planed by your first
but who cares - i know the truth and i have proofs - so stop bullshiting and say you envy #1
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same
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

Go Phraktos GO!

G'luck Krushy, Carty, and the rest of ya..!!!

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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

Ooo the flames will rise high with this one
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

'proof' yah sure, I can as well fabricate 'proof', the time has come to separate the believers from the tyrrants
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war

at last, PA as it should be with no major block, or at least a massively reduced block

oh happy days
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

aught to be interesting, makes me wonder what mistu is going to do
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Krush, thank you, you saved me posting a termination of all our agreements because of this:

- Phraktos continously ignored block agreements
- Phraktos asked FAnG/MISTU to nap WP
- After FAnG/MISTU napping WP on behalf on Phraktos, Phraktos started hitting WP
- Phraktos asked FAnG/MISTU to end WP relations
- After FAnG/MISTU ending WP relations Phraktos started recruiting WP ToP Planets
- Phraktos asked FAnG/MISTU for a coordinated strike against WP Saturday, May 1st. FAnG cooperated.
Phraktos decided to let FAnG and MISTU down (because of heavy incs), and launched after FAnG/MISTU
sucked up all the defense.
- And finally: Phraktos still defends the cheating of 11:7 as not worth being punished.

Finally FAnG can efficiently roid again
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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:23   #12
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

we didn't get punished?
1 planet gone, 600 roids gone and 600 million res?
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

better late then never i suppose
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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:28   #14
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better late then never i suppose
Hey, it was just an april fools :P
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Unread 8 May 2004, 01:29   #15
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

Heartless, tbh I think your credibility is long gone. I.e. leaving with all tot coords to fang last round.
Another thing is that actually yah, you Heartless, aproached wp to stab us ;D Allthough wp, as everyone else, didn't want to ally up with Lucifers army. ;-)

Our recruitment policies are NONE of your buisness. You might think you own the world, but quite frankly you do not.

And finally I do not defend cheaters, what cheaters do you speak of? Tell me and I'll personally report them.
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

i got afk for a few hours and this happens hehe
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

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Heartless, tbh I think your credibility is long gone. I.e. leaving with all tot coords to fang last round.
never a good idea to spk about what u dont know about

your way over your head on this issue, i wudnt continue cos u'll just get owned



gl to all FAnG and Phraktos tho
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I wonder how many people will defect between the two sides now.

Good going Phraktos, but just a tad late for saving the round.
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hmm, should be interesting, see ya on the battlefield heh
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Krush, thank you, you saved me posting a termination of all our agreements because of this:


- And finally: Phraktos still defends the cheating of 11:7 as not worth being punished.

Finally FAnG can efficiently roid again
lol what about your farmer boy ?
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Phraktos is cheating scum.
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Phraktos,
I can't bring out the right words for this.
so let me do it another way,

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Phraktos eat babies.
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lol what about your farmer boy ?
1) crusie is a girl not a boy
2) crusie is Phraktos
3) she farmed Grim (former Phraktos HC)

sorry to correct you there
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Heartless, tbh I think your credibility is long gone.
Since when did FAnG have credibility in the first place?
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Heartless, tbh I think your credibility is long gone..
he also made it worse when he told us he was ouzo hc, while he was officer, last ******** round,

then ran off and told ministry that we were thinking of declaring war on them straight after the meeting
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ITT we all realise that Hearthless has sucked since about Round 8.
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

just dropping a bookmark, so i can readup 2morrow afternoon who got his a$$ spanked and who accuses who of cheating again. Im sure KJ will love it, since he was crying for this war for so long.

My hopes are ofc that phratkos and the universe will stuff fang nicely so we can see another "we didnt finish this round first but we decided that ourself" praises and a defiantly mumbled "proud to be fang or whatever"
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

And now ofc you expect us to be thankfull for living up the game? I have almost no ships and 200 roids. Half my galaxy has quit or went inactive by now. It's a little late to backstab only now.
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

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1) crusie is a girl not a boy
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3) she farmed Grim (former Phraktos HC)

sorry to correct you there
I was more thinking about 2:1:3 tho
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hehe
im sure krush has the credibility
even the allmighty 9 can say in public he planned to backstab us long time ago - at least i have the logs and more...
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even the allmighty 9 can say in public he planned to backstab us long time ago - at least i have the logs and more...
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I was more thinking about 2:1:3 tho
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he also made it worse when he told us he was ouzo hc, while he was officer, last ******** round,

then ran off and told ministry that we were thinking of declaring war on them straight after the meeting
In the end OuZo still ended #1 alliance there :P

Good omen? We'll see I guess.
Anyways, let's talk this out on the battlefield.
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

thing is, if this woulda happened half way into the round it would have been much more enjoyable, the round, and the flaming for that matter
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

Heh, nice try at being the alliance who "solved the block war", Phraktos.

This would have happened anyway probably. You employ underhand tactics in a large variety of ways. You're essentially just recycled Dragons, and don't get me started on their escorting and farming scummy ways.

On the note of FAnG kicking members and roiding them, at least they have reason. I can confidently say (if you like I'll bring PA-mails in) that today you kicked one of my galaxy mates, then Cartman (alliance HC, can anyone see the link to Dragons?) decided to try and roid him for 4-5 waves. We defended in gal and you didn't land.

I'm not speaking for MISTU here by the way. Although I sincerely hope my HC decide to take the right choice, and side with FAnG. A much more desirable alliance, compared to the "win-at-all-costs, no morals" Phraktos.
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Just to get to #1??? ummm no, what Krush said is true, also, you can say what you like, ofc Fang and Mistu are gonna flame us in every possible way, in any thing we say, but mistu, i have nothing against none of you, but at least Phraktos are not afraid of standing up to Fang, im not even gonna say we are gonna win and kick there ass's etc, cos tbh i don't know what the outcome will be, but we stood up to you for our own reasons, and our own reasons are valid.
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If they had not been valid to you, it would of course have put you in a very strange position.

Good luck to those involved, just leave some roids for little old me to pick up...
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1. I don't see the link to dragons, since Cartman never has been dragons.
2. We haven't seen lifesigns at all of the person you're refering to for ages.
3. What reason of fang's where you talking about?

4. Phraktos is NOT recycled Dragons, we have a few ex. dragons true, but we have ex. eclipse as well (hi there mistu), ex. ely, ex. fang, ex. nos, ex. wp, meaning alot of various alliances.
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Heh, nice try at being the alliance who "solved the block war", Phraktos.

This would have happened anyway probably. You employ underhand tactics in a large variety of ways. You're essentially just recycled Dragons, and don't get me started on their escorting and farming scummy ways.

On the note of FAnG kicking members and roiding them, at least they have reason. I can confidently say (if you like I'll bring PA-mails in) that today you kicked one of my galaxy mates, then Cartman (alliance HC, can anyone see the link to Dragons?) decided to try and roid him for 4-5 waves. We defended in gal and you didn't land.

I'm not speaking for MISTU here by the way. Although I sincerely hope my HC decide to take the right choice, and side with FAnG. A much more desirable alliance, compared to the "win-at-all-costs, no morals" Phraktos.
For Mistu to go any OTHER way would require your HC to have a spine.

We all know the answer to that
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

The reasons were that the members were arrogant (omg I'm top player, I should get priority), or were just generally making a nuisance of themselves - using the advantage that they were a girl to get their way (hi crusie). FAnG were right to get rid of them. Pity you had to take in their sloppy second rejects

Cartman not having been Dragons is hardly reason to say you aren't recycled Dragons. I just searched for the original thread Grim made about Phraktos. His wording was effectively "we are the remainder of Dragons, under a new name".

The point about us being "afraid to stand up to FAnG". It's simple. We don't want to stand up to them. We have good relations with them, and haven't considered going to war with them. I've enjoyed fighting alongside FAnG this round. I also enjoyed fighting alongside Phraktos, don't get me wrong. I just didn't like the way you did things. Perhaps I have this warped "honourable" view of the game. I don't believe in preferential picks, and I don't believe in escorts. And I certainly don't believe in farming.
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Re: Official Phraktos Statement

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For Mistu to go any OTHER way would require your HC to have a spine.

We all know the answer to that
Why?
You're losing it Zhil. Do you honestly think Fury would break ties with an alliance they get on well with, and who they wish to fight alongside, just because AD didn't like the block? Come on.

Planetarion isn't about "who has a spine". To break up with FAnG would be tactically wrong, and most people in both alliances wouldn't want to do it anyway. This was Phraktos' choice to break away from the block, not anyone else's. Just because they want to go to war doesn't mean we should.
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but at least Phraktos are not afraid of standing up to Fang,........................but we stood up to you for our own reasons, and our own reasons are valid.
Fang where bullying you and you stood up to them?
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Phraktos. If you had declared war 2+ weeks ago I would have supported you. There would have been some fun left for the EVL block but as it is now, we have hardly any ships left and one average fang member is '10 times' bigger than ours, noone couldn't care less about what happens. No matter how much I would like to see any other alliance win than FAnG, I lack motivation to do anything anymore.

FAnG would have been beaten very easy earlier when we actually had some members alive still but now they are 90 mil ahead of you. You do realize that even if you took every single asteroid from them, you couldn't catch up with them. Therefor you need to destroy ships, structures aswell as take their roids to actually stand a chance. Two weeks that is left, is not enough to do it I'm afraid.
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well, all i can say is this.

YAY! fun fun fun fun fun fun fun!

I LOVE WAR! BRING IT ON!
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im taking it easy - i knew from tick 1 that i should get this treatement from phraktos as an alliance - i like some of their members - but OMG their HCs (lol at drunken krush calling me at 5am) (hi colle )
the only HC i liked to work with was Grim, and btw your april fool krush ? the one you claimed to take us down, i never ate it, i dont eat that 4 HCs have meeting with elysium to take us down at tick 400 claiming we were bad allies, and then saying us it was a joke, i have the logs and i have also a log that someone said that you took it very very seriously, someone from your alliance, so shut up and no i dont fake the logs, so many saw them that i dont think i fakd them even from your alliance some people know about what i am talking .
Then asking WP to come on our side, then ask us to target them badly, then take their top WP, thanks god im out of the loop next round.
Its so funny how you take to yourself the glorious reasons to break us with us, while all theses reason you just said could be initially the only reasons we would drop you from the Block, but we didnt.
Im happy now you showed your true face, at least you got the guts to say "hi i fancy #1 and ill kill even my allies"
And btw - plead at vision and other to NAP with you, i dont want them to stop hitting us, but get WP (they hated WP so much, where is the hate? :P) and now get phraktos on their side (did we listen to the crappy excuse the blocks is not equale and balanced)

ANYWAY - this is not a whining post, im happy, at least if we win, people wont be able to say that mistu and fang didnt work out hard at the end (2 weeks remaining is 25% of a round and its long enough) to gain their victory , an alliance and proud victory.
I remember zhil and many more saying that about fang, and dont say that its some debris and piece fighting against us - because WP and phraktos and vision are still standing and ND/FYFTO are still fighting and still have enough fleets.
And i would say that they might bacstab us 2 week before end, but basically their cooperation as an alliance ceased long time ago, how lame but truth, they were just teasing and checking our limits and sending colle to act like a fool in #fang and get a ban again.

anyway - lets see you and other on the battlefield, lets fight and lets wish a good luck to our true allie , MISTU.

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Why?
You're losing it Zhil. Do you honestly think Fury would break ties with an alliance they get on well with, and who they wish to fight alongside, just because AD didn't like the block? Come on.

Planetarion isn't about "who has a spine". To break up with FAnG would be tactically wrong, and most people in both alliances wouldn't want to do it anyway. This was Phraktos' choice to break away from the block, not anyone else's. Just because they want to go to war doesn't mean we should.
This isnt about Fury. Regardless, even if you wish to compare to Fury or Eclipse lets say, both alliances did break ties countless number of times.

I know full well why Mistu picks the easiest option. FPM showed the universe what they think, and you've only confirmed the fact that Mistu were happy to sit along and stagnate without lifting a finger - infact, your HC have something called "honour" (a misconception in PA - read Rob's thread) ingrained into their heads that make your political movements rather easy to predict. We all knew FAnG wouldnt be the ones to break the block up. Which meant it would need to be Phraktos (Mistu wouldnt dare, being the third link) and that gives you an excuse to remain 'honourable' and stay with FAnG.

The fact is Tomkat, whilst you say you don't care about AD - its AD and your actions ingame that will decide what Mistu is remembered as. Currently you (imo) have the best 'image', although Phraktos in breaking away might help their image somewhat. The problem will be what Mistu intends to do for the coming round, and -that- will decide your image most definately.

Just to reiterate Tomkat, I am not blaming Mistu for their current command decision. It's the most sensible and logical option. What can be blamed is the command decisions from earlier in the round.

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