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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 12:41   #1
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Warning to chat room users

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/new...737444,00.html

I wonder if if the same could happen in these forms?
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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 12:53   #2
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Re: Warning to chat room users

well yahwe has repeatedly called people spastic. I'd love to see him back that one up now.

do we have class actions in the UK?
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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 13:04   #3
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everyone knows laws don't apply on the internet you nazi
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[football] england 2 Mar 2006 15:38 you're a big fat idiot.
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[football] england 2 Mar 2006 20:04 You don't have good comprehension skills


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if they had only signed their negrep... :crymeariver:
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can you view this site through annoyomizer (sp?) how did they find out her identity? if you went to sites through a proxy, or however the hell you hide your IP how are they going to know? its only the internet!
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Re: Warning to chat room users

I think the difference with this forum is that on here abuse is expected and tolerated.

If i was to wonder onto a bbc forum (if one exists) and proclaim my love for pre-pubescent minors, things may be taken slightly differently.

That guy does sound like an utter knacker-sack though, let's hope he stumbles upon GD.
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That judge is a total nazi for doing that!
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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 13:28   #8
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im still confused how yahoo would know her identiy? the ISP assuming it kept log records maybe, but yahoo??? i don't do yahoo, do you have to enter your details?
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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 13:31   #9
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Re: Warning to chat room users

£10,000 plus costs, not bad at all; and that other settlement of nearly £30,000. It`s almost worth being called a Nazi.
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this is how hitler got that rich.
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this is how hitler got that rich.
True, suing whenever anyone called him a Nazi was a prominent theme in his life.
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someone needs to invent a better internet
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[football] england 2 Mar 2006 15:38 you're a big fat idiot.
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Happy Steak and BJ Day! 16 Mar 2006 17:09 girl
Chuck Norris JOKES 18 Feb 2006 02:49 i don't like yuo
[football] england 2 Mar 2006 20:04 You don't have good comprehension skills


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if they had only signed their negrep... :crymeariver:
jolt would probably open their database if the police asked them to, for evidence that a crime had been committed. since the mods and admins can see who gives them rep, no doubt the info as to who negrepped you also exists.
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I can see the headline now - "Nazi mods on nazi forums get sued for calling users nazis." It'd be fantastic.
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That judge is a total nazi for doing that!
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Unread 23 Mar 2006, 14:01   #16
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"They started saying I was on a sex offenders' list and that people shouldn't let me near their children," said Mr Keith-Smith

I believe this is already happening. Step up Dace.
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Dace could make millions on the amount of times we've called him a pedophile

Although I doubt he'd try to go to the police about these accusations, for obvious reasons ;o
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**** me that is one of the silliest things i have ever read, and the guy is obviously a nazi, being the 'voice of the conservative right' and all
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AFAIR People in germany successfully sued for words like "idiot" on irc or in Web forums already.
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well yahwe has repeatedly called people spastic. I'd love to see him back that one up now.
It is a defence to an action that the defamation complained of was true.
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Maybe this Michael Keith-Smith is responsible for those crappy gimmicks we had last week or so which were bombarded with 'u r gay' and 'shut it spastic' comments.

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It is a defence to an action that the defamation complained of was true.
Yes, the difference between GD and other internet forums/chat rooms/whatever is that the users of this forum are mature and thoughtful individuals who only mildly chastise each other when it is necessary to do so. Certainly, I have never seen an incorrect or inarticulate accusation made against any of the many fine members of this forum.

For example, I have been called both an American AND a Republican in various threads and, while hurtful, I have to admit to the truth of both accusations.
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I think its fair to say that no amount of name calling will ever see us suing people on this forum.

Cos if you threaten it , The Nazi mods will just ban your ass
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I think its fair to say that no amount of name calling will ever see us suing people on this forum.

Cos if you threaten it , The Nazi mods will just ban your ass
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I'm tempted to do a 'yahwe explains ... defamation' just to make sure we all feel secure
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I'm tempted to do a 'yahwe explains ... defamation' just to make sure we all feel secure
You realise that when you take a career outside of law, youll be forced to give up the "Yahwe Explains" series if it involve a description of the law?

Dont do it Steven!
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You realise that when you take a career outside of law, youll be forced to give up the "Yahwe Explains" series if it involve a description of the law?

Dont do it Steven!
I'm pretty sure that I'll be a barrister (not to mention a lawyer) for life

and I can even still make silk! (become a QC)
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at the moment im thinking of turning off java and going by proxy by proxy to this site before posting photoshopped pics of dace leering at an apparently 13yr old jessica alba
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"They started saying I was on a sex offenders' list and that people shouldn't let me near their children,
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He resolved to take legal action after the pair accused his wife of being a prostitute.
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Both which were factually untrue, and afaik is considered defamation regardless of which medium you spread it through.

I expect the same standards will be set here as for any other medium. Short in-the-moment statements are considered fair (nobody here was ever convicted after regular in-the-moment namecalling atleast).. while willfull assertion of patently false allegations just plain aren't acceptable.

I guess the article was extremely misleading in bringing up "lard brain" ,"Nazi", a "racist bigot" and a "nonce".

Am I anything close to the truth Yahwe?

Oh, and what the hell is a nonce?
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Oh, and what the hell is a nonce?
it's an old fashioned insult for being homosexual.
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how would it have worked if the 2 ppl were from 2 different countrys?
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it's an old fashioned insult for being homosexual.
Actually, its the modern interpretation, in prison terms, for a paedophile.

This is most likely due to the fact that Gay Sex is a fact of life within the prison system, and thus calling someone a "Homo" is about as effective as attacking them with mashed potato during dinner times.
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can you view this site through annoyomizer (sp?) how did they find out her identity? if you went to sites through a proxy, or however the hell you hide your IP how are they going to know? its only the internet!
You don't understand how proxies work. Regardless of whether you're using a v4 or a v5 SOCKS proxy, your IP can still be found.
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i made all that up, anyway i thought the entire point was those proxy servers didn't bother keeping any records or something
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i made all that up, anyway i thought the entire point was those proxy servers didn't bother keeping any records or something
Well it really depends. Proxies arent "anonymizers" 'per se' as they "might" forwards identification info on the protocol layer and even if the proxy doesnt log access, your ISP and the ISP of the proxy might (data retention act).

What you really look for is something like Tor using onion routing.

The "purpose" of a proxy might be for something completely different like pretending to come from a different region of the world or trying to go around technical problems, limitations or restrictions.
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