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After some weeks in Lithuania
Now I understand all the bot accusations of some rounds back.
I have never, ever seen in my PA life such a devotion in filling up attack missions but also defence missions.
Calling us bot users is a compliment, and I now can fully understand what all the hassle was about.
(Actually trolling dread is probably not the best way to prevent him from responding-JBG)
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7 Jun 2003, 12:51
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Re: After some weeks in Lithuania
U said it SS
Eventhough never having visited Lithuania, I know what LDK stands for.
Bot accusations from cnuts can never fully be avoided:l
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7 Jun 2003, 13:45
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Luckily i have not been on the end of an Ldk attack yet, but time will tell. Glad to see youre back up to full capacity anyway(even if it is a scary thought)
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7 Jun 2003, 15:19
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Did you meet all their friends who ran thier escort planets?
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Reject False Icons
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I did hear that their friends that supposedly ran escorts lived in a town called Xan, its just north of that town called
MassEta5FiFleets
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7 Jun 2003, 15:49
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I am one of them. Bot, James Bot.
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I would post a troll, but that would be unoriginal in an LDK thread.
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7 Jun 2003, 16:18
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hehe LDK is pretty ace ya but everyone knows about the PA launchers peeps used back then. I have not heard of any accusations lately , but in the past they did. I still like LDK though pretty fierce competitors but they had their dark days to. LDK bot wise is LARGELY surpased bu KILLMARK and his bot minions.
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7 Jun 2003, 16:27
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People are silly, LDK never used bots (at least not extensivly).
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7 Jun 2003, 16:31
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
People are silly, LDK never used bots (at least not extensivly).
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7 Jun 2003, 16:39
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respect
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7 Jun 2003, 16:41
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7 Jun 2003, 16:47
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p a r r a c i d a
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all i see here is a attack followed by a noticed defence...
explain the circumstances please
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7 Jun 2003, 17:01
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I think it was his lack of amps he wanted to show u.
He uses SCANPLANETS!
the horror.....
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7 Jun 2003, 17:05
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
all i see here is a attack followed by a noticed defence...
explain the circumstances please
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Maybe this will explain it
Most of the def came from this gal all launched a few mins apart
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7 Jun 2003, 17:06
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Originally posted by Rinoa
I think it was his lack of amps he wanted to show u.
He uses SCANPLANETS!
the horror.....
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7 Jun 2003, 17:23
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Condemned to RP
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Looks like dread is calling the kettle black here..
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7 Jun 2003, 17:46
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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
hehe LDK is pretty ace ya but everyone knows about the PA launchers peeps used back then. I have not heard of any accusations lately , but in the past they did. I still like LDK though pretty fierce competitors but they had their dark days to. LDK bot wise is LARGELY surpased bu KILLMARK and his bot minions.
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everybody had a fleet launched back in those days... (hello Windows task scheduler)
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7 Jun 2003, 17:51
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Inflate My Ego
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Dread is just afraid.
Finally LDK was gone, and he had a nice high ranking spot. Now LDK is back, and all his hopes of getting another high rank are gone.
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7 Jun 2003, 18:11
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After I played LH with two lithuanians, I kinda lost some respect..
Both of them farmed their multi-acccounts..
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<Dreadnought>You cant whois on Eclipse server without a registered nic, which mr ****stirrer doesnt have.
<Almeida> well i like to grow fat myself too, and when i have enough ships then i can engage in big battles
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7 Jun 2003, 18:37
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Re: After some weeks in Lithuania
Are you the Lithuanian Minister of Information?
Your claims are slightly less credible than those made by your iraqi counterpart.
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7 Jun 2003, 19:19
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Inflate My Ego
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Quote:
Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
After I played LH with two lithuanians, I kinda lost some respect..
Both of them farmed their multi-acccounts..
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7 Jun 2003, 19:25
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HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE DISCUSED THIS?
ppl can belive what they want but i belive they just have many sucky friends (brothers) and some good ones..
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7 Jun 2003, 19:31
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having worked closely with one Lithuanian, he's simply outstanding, he pisses all over everyone else I've played with. he's not even LDK, so I'm sure they have some even better players which makes me think they've never cheated on a scale bigger than other alliances. I think it has something to do with the way they live and their countries lack of economy, I could be talking bollocks here, but I think the way they've been brought up makes them better players than say the English.
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Re: Re: After some weeks in Lithuania
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Originally posted by inf
Are you the Lithuanian Minister of Information?
Your claims are slightly less credible than those made by your iraqi counterpart.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scorpio
who doesn't farm in LH?? :eek:
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Originally posted by The_Fish
having worked closely with one Lithuanian, he's simply outstanding, he pisses all over everyone else I've played with. he's not even LDK, so I'm sure they have some even better players which makes me think they've never cheated on a scale bigger than other alliances. I think it has something to do with the way they live and their countries lack of economy, I could be talking bollocks here, but I think the way they've been brought up makes them better players than say the English.
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Ive seen smaller piles of **** in cowfields the_fish
Lithuanian worship is a silly trend.
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7 Jun 2003, 22:16
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its hardly worship, like I said, It's only 1 lithuanian I know, and he really is the best player I've ever worked with, and I've seen some top players. he *could* be a one off, but I doubt it, I know how good LDK were (are) and after seeing this Lith work it made me realise what an alliance of 100 of them could do.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scorpio
who doesn't farm in LH?? :eek:
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During the few times I played LH, those two were the only I saw farm multiplanets. (not so hard to notice when they kept hitting the same planets over and over again, and then offers you to use the farm).
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<Hicks>Occassionally individuals do things without Executive consent
<Dreadnought>You cant whois on Eclipse server without a registered nic, which mr ****stirrer doesnt have.
<Almeida> well i like to grow fat myself too, and when i have enough ships then i can engage in big battles
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Quote:
Originally posted by The_Fish
its hardly worship, like I said, It's only 1 lithuanian I know, and he really is the best player I've ever worked with, and I've seen some top players. he *could* be a one off, but I doubt it, I know how good LDK were (are) and after seeing this Lith work it made me realise what an alliance of 100 of them could do.
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Je ne comprende pas.
explain?
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Je ne comprende pas.
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Basically it's fault inductive reasoning based on inadequate premises. To claim that they are all good through your knowledge of one is about as reliable a claim as to say that all dog's are brown because the first one you've seen was brown (or all black people are thieves as the first black person you met was a thief). Now if you knew more of them it would be a more rational argument but how and ever that's supposition and not admissible in a court of law!
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yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
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Originally posted by xtothez
Can I now upload my news scans of UDK and claim all Eclipse players cheat?
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Quote:
Originally posted by The_Fish
yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
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Its actually not a fair assumption.
Your statement about how lithuanians are somehow better PA players is actually rather rediculous. I belive the one thing they have had an advantage is having a large group of players who personnally know each other. Which has something to do with thier setting, but nothing to do with being great players cause of some magic effect of thier country.
Your hero worship of Kid Z strikes me as rather odd, and id actually guess he isnt the greatest PA player of all time. But Im sure hes very good. There are alot of great PA players. Its actually not that difficult a thing to be great at.
And lets not over romantisize what LDK was/is. They arent gods gift to PA. They arent the obvious best players ever. The reason they have such a reputation is that for the side that they were often on, being elite wasnt usually the norm. So thier ability to do so stuck out.
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LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.
Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
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8 Jun 2003, 01:39
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There are great players on all sides of the fence, which makes this game interesting. I just hope we end throwing up undeserved insults and start having fun playing this game.
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Originally posted by The_Fish
LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.
Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
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No, they dont obviously have better dedication. What on earth are you talking about. No they dont have a history of fighting against the odds more than any other alloiance (or country?). They have a history like MANY MANY good players and groups of doing very well when they have the opportunity and when things go bad being among the best of the crushed and getting back up. Lots of groups/alliances/players have done this many times over.
Is there something in the air in Lithuania that makes them better def organizers? Geez The_Fish, you are just sounding rediculous.
Ive only ever seen hero worship like this about individuals, never a group before. Youve stunned me The_Fish.
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Raaaaaaaah!
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Quote:
Originally posted by The_Fish
yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
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Struck fear into who ? The AD peons ? The people who ever faced LDK in the game itself were never "scared", LDK were just another name.
What the heck makes one country special, you surely can't claim that being from Lithuaian makes you a better Planetarion player, where LDK have always shown strength is from the fact that they play from LAN cafes so they have good communication, other than that LDK are just another group of decent players.
KID Z > * .... who the ****
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who doesn't farm in LH?? :eek:
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Originally posted by Scorpio
Dread is just afraid.
Finally LDK was gone, and he had a nice high ranking spot. Now LDK is back, and all his hopes of getting another high rank are gone.
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Actually i was 2nd in r7 when LDK was there
i take it you kneel for Lrytas
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Inflate My Ego
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Originally posted by Dreadnought
i take it you kneel for Lrytas
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Raaaaaaaah!
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2nd aint 1st though is it Dread
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Actually i was 2nd in r7 when LDK was there
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lol, soon he'll make us believe it was actually his skills that got him 2nd in round 7 and not like 5000 other events and reasons ...
rgds Kj
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Quote:
Originally posted by The_Fish
LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.
Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
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I have no comment on any bot allegations as i haven't ever looked into it in detail or payed attention to accusations. I'm sure your friend is very good at PA, but trust me it's not because he's lithuanian.
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Originally posted by Kjeldoran
lol, soon he'll make us believe it was actually his skills that got him 2nd in round 7 and not like 5000 other events and reasons ...
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3 of the first 5 attacking planets on my planet in this round were closed and deleted before landing.
Hardly any need to tell which alliance they were...
Shamefull is the only word for it
hAl
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Allways when i come to pa forum i see the same things...
flaming, arguing and fighting. I wonder how this game can be ever fun ?
If its allways like this and only moment when players are having fun is really when they roid/kill
someone totally. Then something is really terrible wrong in this community.
Why cant we just respect someone from hostile alliance ?
Why the person who roided you must be allways "The bad guy" who cheated, used bots, has lack of brains etc..
cant we just be friends ?
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Originally posted by hAl
3 of the first 5 attacking planets on my planet in this round were closed and deleted before landing.
Hardly any need to tell which alliance they were...
Shamefull is the only word for it
hAl
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You must be joking?!
Please be so kind to pm me their coords and your proof for them cheating, just for personal amusement.
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<Dingo> allies are just temporary friends waiting to become enemies
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