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Unread 7 Jun 2003, 12:35   #1
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After some weeks in Lithuania

Now I understand all the bot accusations of some rounds back.


I have never, ever seen in my PA life such a devotion in filling up attack missions but also defence missions.


Calling us bot users is a compliment, and I now can fully understand what all the hassle was about.





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Re: After some weeks in Lithuania

U said it SS

Eventhough never having visited Lithuania, I know what LDK stands for.

Bot accusations from cnuts can never fully be avoided:l
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Luckily i have not been on the end of an Ldk attack yet, but time will tell. Glad to see youre back up to full capacity anyway(even if it is a scary thought)
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Did you meet all their friends who ran thier escort planets?
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I did hear that their friends that supposedly ran escorts lived in a town called Xan, its just north of that town called
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I am one of them. Bot, James Bot.
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I would post a troll, but that would be unoriginal in an LDK thread.
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hehe LDK is pretty ace ya but everyone knows about the PA launchers peeps used back then. I have not heard of any accusations lately , but in the past they did. I still like LDK though pretty fierce competitors but they had their dark days to. LDK bot wise is LARGELY surpased bu KILLMARK and his bot minions.
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People are silly, LDK never used bots (at least not extensivly).
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People are silly, LDK never used bots (at least not extensivly).
you are 100% correct there, accountsharing on the other hand......
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all i see here is a attack followed by a noticed defence...

explain the circumstances please
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I think it was his lack of amps he wanted to show u.

He uses SCANPLANETS!
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explain the circumstances please
Maybe this will explain it

Most of the def came from this gal all launched a few mins apart
 
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He uses SCANPLANETS!
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Looks like dread is calling the kettle black here..
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hehe LDK is pretty ace ya but everyone knows about the PA launchers peeps used back then. I have not heard of any accusations lately , but in the past they did. I still like LDK though pretty fierce competitors but they had their dark days to. LDK bot wise is LARGELY surpased bu KILLMARK and his bot minions.
everybody had a fleet launched back in those days... (hello Windows task scheduler)
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Dread is just afraid.

Finally LDK was gone, and he had a nice high ranking spot. Now LDK is back, and all his hopes of getting another high rank are gone.
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After I played LH with two lithuanians, I kinda lost some respect..

Both of them farmed their multi-acccounts..
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Re: After some weeks in Lithuania

Are you the Lithuanian Minister of Information?

Your claims are slightly less credible than those made by your iraqi counterpart.
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who doesn't farm in LH?? :eek:
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HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE DISCUSED THIS?

ppl can belive what they want but i belive they just have many sucky friends (brothers) and some good ones..
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having worked closely with one Lithuanian, he's simply outstanding, he pisses all over everyone else I've played with. he's not even LDK, so I'm sure they have some even better players which makes me think they've never cheated on a scale bigger than other alliances. I think it has something to do with the way they live and their countries lack of economy, I could be talking bollocks here, but I think the way they've been brought up makes them better players than say the English.
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maybee its the beer impareing my judgement but i think your attempting comedy, or at least I hope so.
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having worked closely with one Lithuanian, he's simply outstanding, he pisses all over everyone else I've played with. he's not even LDK, so I'm sure they have some even better players which makes me think they've never cheated on a scale bigger than other alliances. I think it has something to do with the way they live and their countries lack of economy, I could be talking bollocks here, but I think the way they've been brought up makes them better players than say the English.
Ive seen smaller piles of **** in cowfields the_fish

Lithuanian worship is a silly trend.
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its hardly worship, like I said, It's only 1 lithuanian I know, and he really is the best player I've ever worked with, and I've seen some top players. he *could* be a one off, but I doubt it, I know how good LDK were (are) and after seeing this Lith work it made me realise what an alliance of 100 of them could do.
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me fx?

During the few times I played LH, those two were the only I saw farm multiplanets. (not so hard to notice when they kept hitting the same planets over and over again, and then offers you to use the farm).
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its hardly worship, like I said, It's only 1 lithuanian I know, and he really is the best player I've ever worked with, and I've seen some top players. he *could* be a one off, but I doubt it, I know how good LDK were (are) and after seeing this Lith work it made me realise what an alliance of 100 of them could do.
Thats the kind of logic that makes racists.
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Je ne comprende pas.

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explain?

Basically it's fault inductive reasoning based on inadequate premises. To claim that they are all good through your knowledge of one is about as reliable a claim as to say that all dog's are brown because the first one you've seen was brown (or all black people are thieves as the first black person you met was a thief). Now if you knew more of them it would be a more rational argument but how and ever that's supposition and not admissible in a court of law!
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yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
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yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
Its actually not a fair assumption.

Your statement about how lithuanians are somehow better PA players is actually rather rediculous. I belive the one thing they have had an advantage is having a large group of players who personnally know each other. Which has something to do with thier setting, but nothing to do with being great players cause of some magic effect of thier country.

Your hero worship of Kid Z strikes me as rather odd, and id actually guess he isnt the greatest PA player of all time. But Im sure hes very good. There are alot of great PA players. Its actually not that difficult a thing to be great at.

And lets not over romantisize what LDK was/is. They arent gods gift to PA. They arent the obvious best players ever. The reason they have such a reputation is that for the side that they were often on, being elite wasnt usually the norm. So thier ability to do so stuck out.
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LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.

Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
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There are great players on all sides of the fence, which makes this game interesting. I just hope we end throwing up undeserved insults and start having fun playing this game.
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LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.

Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
No, they dont obviously have better dedication. What on earth are you talking about. No they dont have a history of fighting against the odds more than any other alloiance (or country?). They have a history like MANY MANY good players and groups of doing very well when they have the opportunity and when things go bad being among the best of the crushed and getting back up. Lots of groups/alliances/players have done this many times over.

Is there something in the air in Lithuania that makes them better def organizers? Geez The_Fish, you are just sounding rediculous.

Ive only ever seen hero worship like this about individuals, never a group before. Youve stunned me The_Fish.
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yes but its not as straight forward as that. LDK have owned and struck fear into many people so I know by reputation they're good. When I work with Kid Z, a lith, I know he's awesome so its a fair assumption that he isnt alone there
Struck fear into who ? The AD peons ? The people who ever faced LDK in the game itself were never "scared", LDK were just another name.

What the heck makes one country special, you surely can't claim that being from Lithuaian makes you a better Planetarion player, where LDK have always shown strength is from the fact that they play from LAN cafes so they have good communication, other than that LDK are just another group of decent players.

KID Z > * .... who the ****
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Actually i was 2nd in r7 when LDK was there

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lol, soon he'll make us believe it was actually his skills that got him 2nd in round 7 and not like 5000 other events and reasons ...

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LDK obviously had better dedication than opposition, whether this makes them better PA players or not is not the question here, but they certainly have a history of fighting against the odds better than any other alliance or country.

Kid Z isnt the best PA player of all time, but like many Liths I believe, when the times get hard he gets going. he never roids aswell as other great players I know do, but when under constant attack for days on end he still manages to kick someones arse, and the in gal def he organised last round was immense. I did say maybe I'm talking bollocks, but I think that many other Liths are the same.
hmm I have to agree with K-W... wtf are you talking about? Suggesting that any country is superior at anything, from birth, is stupid in itself. It is, infact, racial generalisation... which can be considered as racism. I will repeat what's been said, LDK were succesful because of their communication abilities, being as the majority of the member base live near each other, and play from LAN cafe's. LDK were considered successful due to their resistance towards fury and legion when it seemed like there wasn't much hope. They aren't some special power that are unbeatable, least of all because they're lithuanian. It has nothing to do with the lithuanian economy, and i think you'd find that if you had a similar group of people in england, german, america, norway or wherever, with easy communication options, they would be equally successful.

I have no comment on any bot allegations as i haven't ever looked into it in detail or payed attention to accusations. I'm sure your friend is very good at PA, but trust me it's not because he's lithuanian.
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lol, soon he'll make us believe it was actually his skills that got him 2nd in round 7 and not like 5000 other events and reasons ...

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3 of the first 5 attacking planets on my planet in this round were closed and deleted before landing.

Hardly any need to tell which alliance they were...

Shamefull is the only word for it

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Allways when i come to pa forum i see the same things...
flaming, arguing and fighting. I wonder how this game can be ever fun ?
If its allways like this and only moment when players are having fun is really when they roid/kill
someone totally. Then something is really terrible wrong in this community.

Why cant we just respect someone from hostile alliance ?
Why the person who roided you must be allways "The bad guy" who cheated, used bots, has lack of brains etc..

cant we just be friends ?
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3 of the first 5 attacking planets on my planet in this round were closed and deleted before landing.

Hardly any need to tell which alliance they were...

Shamefull is the only word for it

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Please be so kind to pm me their coords and your proof for them cheating, just for personal amusement.
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