Planetarion Forums - offensive stopped ?

Denniz · 27 Jun 2003, 19:54

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Originally posted by StDomingo
And then u have the members who sent out 3 def fleets...

yes,
that are the < 2 mil planets who defend with 3 fi fleets every day.

CrazyConrad · 27 Jun 2003, 20:27

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Originally posted by lrytas
However i see you do not understand and have no clue. Why do use such a fkin stupix excuse ? You contradict yourself now by agreeing with Hicks's post. Your excuse of blocking was that LDK cheats, and you agreed with Hicks, that block is because of our ranks, that we are too high. I am really tired now explaining to all idiots like you what where and how.

P.S. Why did Oly joined Eclipses block ? Because we refused your proposition to block with us ?

P.P.S. [sorry can't post co-ords on the boards, just block out the co-ords etc-JBG]
That eta 5 hostile have to be Eclipse command i believe :/

P.P.P.S Really deleting my account from there. So idiots' like CrazyConrad posts wont be answered anymore. If he understoon then it is ok, if he did not, then only medics help might rescue him.

I said two things:

1) All alliances allying ldk are pathetic simply cause you control most of top planets.

2) I said you could never be called winners cause I personally think many of your top planets cheat.

I am entitled to have my own oppinion aint I ??

Those were the two things I said about ldk and you turn out all balisitic cause of that.

Please take your head out of your ass you twat and start to think before you verbally attack someone with your bull****

Lord_Olrik · 27 Jun 2003, 20:27

<2mil planets with nuff FI to make 3 fleets.... wow that leet

CrazyConrad · 27 Jun 2003, 20:28

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Originally posted by Cicada
you're all ****ing lame

i'm so sucuiding my planet into one of you arseholes

I aint sure who you are refering to, wheter its me, other or all of us but one thing is for sure...

I totally agree with you...

PuppetS · 27 Jun 2003, 21:13

Ok LDK curent situation is there OWN Damned fault.

Ofc when you attack almost every allainces top planets and gain control of most of the top 20 they are goin to concentrate thier efforts on you. You would do the same damned thing if any other alliance was on top right now. Its comen sence when 1 alliance has such a dominace that the others are goin to concentrate thier efforts on takeing them down.

And of course we dont need to get into the multi alligations against LDK. You can go on and on about how those 100;s planets of under 2 million and are defending you every night are just your friends but we know you are all full of ****.

Its your Own fault that so many alliances are trying to kill you right now. Stop the bitching and take it like men.

Legator · 27 Jun 2003, 21:34

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Originally posted by The_Fish
I dont think theres many unallied left

i bet theres at least one atm.

Torjus · 27 Jun 2003, 21:36

LDK are the Elite

just admitt it, LDK are better than u...
wired that 6 alliances, is what is take, to roid 2 Ldk planets

LDK are best gaining roids, and defend.. other alliances sucks

Stop complaing LDK for cheating.. it really SUCKS !!!! (bad agruments though

)

Just consider it...

K03N · 27 Jun 2003, 21:57

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Originally posted by Hicks
Why exactly is he a hypocrite ? Planetarion is a dynamic game especially politically you surely cannot compare the situation last round to the situation this round. LDK have already secured most of the top ranks and the rest of the universe is trying to counter that by forming an alliance, what do you expect them to do ? Roll over and die or you ? And he's right any alliance who try to ally LDK are pathetic because they'll just be trying to hitch a ride on LDK success ViruS style.

Why can't LDK win the round ? I think it would be the same if any alliance had got as far as LDK have in front although it's amplified by the fact LDK have a rather negative reputation, one they don't seem to be trying to clear by having people like you as members.

Just so you know far from coming across as gallant and superior your post makes you sound like a scared little girl worried about losing his top rank. Why not leave forum posts to those who have a pair of brain cells to rub together or at least those who aren't pretend Lithuanians, then you can concentrate on getting all your escorts launched.

Scouse · 28 Jun 2003, 01:16

Seems to be a massive change of opinion for a lot of people since about 6 months ago.

Knight Theamion · 28 Jun 2003, 01:18

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Originally posted by laputa
but then again LDK could look for partners to ally with and we would have it again: our beloved two-block scenario :/

think two steps, if the minor alliance is smart (which most are atm) they just hook off just before the maior one of that block takes over and let that one and the other 'big one' who are are fighting to die so you and some friends go for #1 again

repeat ad infinitum.

Knight Theamion · 28 Jun 2003, 01:23

LDK has two type of persons

1 ) big players they all go out 3 fleet roiding and do not have to defend

and
2) friends

friends live in shacks, have desktop jobs but have one perk, they all have a mobile phone and get online at the strangests times to launch, recall, scan, counter do all sorts of handy things, always.
You know these are friends because usually you see a bundle of friends helping one mate out, i think that's the one just got fired or something

need to get me those friends too, all people i knew who quit pa or retired refused to solely help me a full round, let alone 6 of them.

hAl · 28 Jun 2003, 08:59

To bad not one of those 'friends' ever shows up on irc either.

hAl

djcomplex · 28 Jun 2003, 09:16

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Originally posted by hAl
To bad not one of those 'friends' ever shows up on irc either.

hAl

all you ever do it bitch and whinge i dont think ive ever seen a post from you where you werent moaning about someone or complaining about how something was done
Please
just
STFU

Jackal2112 · 28 Jun 2003, 10:00

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Originally posted by Torjus
LDK are the Elite
just admitt it, LDK are better than u...
wired that 6 alliances, is what is take, to roid 2 Ldk planets
LDK are best gaining roids, and defend.. other alliances sucks
Stop complaing LDK for cheating.. it really SUCKS !!!! (bad agruments though )

Just consider it...

noobie escort farming multi acc sharing geek

cypher · 28 Jun 2003, 10:14

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Originally posted by Hicks
Why exactly is he a hypocrite ? Planetarion is a dynamic game especially politically you surely cannot compare the situation last round to the situation this round. LDK have already secured most of the top ranks and the rest of the universe is trying to counter that by forming an alliance, what do you expect them to do ? Roll over and die or you ? And he's right any alliance who try to ally LDK are pathetic because they'll just be trying to hitch a ride on LDK success ViruS style.
Why can't LDK win the round ? I think it would be the same if any alliance had got as far as LDK have in front although it's amplified by the fact LDK have a rather negative reputation, one they don't seem to be trying to clear by having people like you as members.

Just so you know far from coming across as gallant and superior your post makes you sound like a scared little girl worried about losing his top rank. Why not leave forum posts to those who have a pair of brain cells to rub together or at least those who aren't pretend Lithuanians, then you can concentrate on getting all your escorts launched.

i wouldn't expect you to know what a hypocrite is... you're "hicks" after all...
people like me as a member? heh... you don't even know anything about me

me scared of losing planet..... hehe..... yep i'd care... lol btw talking to me about escorts is kinda useless as i actually don't use em... (see my roidcount

)

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Originally posted by Thekar

btw sliekas did not only lose 1,25% roids but 804 in the first wave.

that was wave 5 or so already

if not more

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Originally posted by hAl
To bad not one of those 'friends' ever shows up on irc either.

hAl

i somehow doubt you've EVER been on ldk channels... (maybe not even ldk irc...)

now i think i'll just agree to lrytas and not post much more.... as heh

i doubt there's anyone who has the intelligence to see what's happinin anyways.....

Tesla · 28 Jun 2003, 10:35

Here goes:

I remember talking to Lrytas about a week ago.. About pa, alliances, and about LDK.. Lrytas told me that LDK OWNED top 10 etc which is indeed true.. I also remembered we compared IRC activity between Spacehamsters and LDK.. And SPACEHAMSTERS had about 10-15 more ppl on IRC in average if what u told me was correct.. How the fck can u stand 5 waves then ? That just aint possible if u were non-cheating.. Now I wont jump on the bot bandwagon, cuz I know u aint using no bot.. But I cant help to think that u got a serious case of multiple accs.
I generally like you guys, and u would be good enuff to win wivout cheating, so Im kinda disappointed :-/

SilverSmoke · 28 Jun 2003, 10:42

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Originally posted by Tesla
How the fck can u stand 5 waves then ? That just aint possible if u were non-cheating..

when most waves are based mainly on planets smaller then 2 million score and are not really build on fighting big Xand fleets it's not that hard to defend against.

Tesla · 28 Jun 2003, 10:49

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Originally posted by SilverSmoke
when most waves are based mainly on planets smaller then 2 million score and are not really build on fighting big Xand fleets it's not that hard to defend against.

Be it many small, or one huge.. Those are still a fckload of ships to attack a 30 mill planet.. And when waveing the defense is supposed to be drained after a while, which is seemingly not the case here, they just keep em coming ^^

SilverSmoke · 28 Jun 2003, 10:56

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Originally posted by Tesla
Be it many small, or one huge.. Those are still a fckload of ships to attack a 30 mill planet.. And when waveing the defense is supposed to be drained after a while, which is seemingly not the case here, they just keep em coming ^^

there was one massive looking wave getting slaughtered by a handful of topplanets defensive fleets. I remember in my xanadu days our oponents where actually able to build an effective fleet even if it was a small one :/

Last night one tosspot was defending against us with 30k corsairs, i mean ffs.

lokken · 28 Jun 2003, 11:03

covering 5 waves can be done (not that it isn't difficult ofc).

It's when you get beyond 6-7 waves things really are in no hoper territory.

Tesla · 28 Jun 2003, 11:10

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Originally posted by lokken
covering 5 waves can be done (not that it isn't difficult ofc).

It's when you get beyond 6-7 waves things really are in no hoper territory.

True..but wiv the alleged irc activity he gave me and wiv the alleged memberscount it would be next to impossible.. Altough beein biased as a old Xanadu I'll give em the benefit of the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemely huge doubt...

lokken · 28 Jun 2003, 11:36

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Originally posted by Tesla
True..but wiv the alleged irc activity he gave me and wiv the alleged memberscount it would be next to impossible.. Altough beein biased as a old Xanadu I'll give em the benefit of the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemely huge doubt...

What are the numbers

Tesla · 28 Jun 2003, 12:00

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Originally posted by lokken
What are the numbers

now this was a predictable reply.. Well since I obviously cant remember and dont log irc I cant say.. Tbh I cant even remember how many SH used to have on

If Lrytas logs then he has the logs and can show ya not that I think he would.. how about it Lrytas ?

Wild guess:
50-60ish on IRC
80-100ish all in all...

This is just something which I seem to recall he said and NOT 100% facts..

cypher · 28 Jun 2003, 13:18

guys no offence... but biggest defence i've personally seen on sliekas was 100 mil? that was over 4/5 waves of defence? sliekas himself has 30 mil fleet... wtf is so HUGE and special?:S heh..

Unf_Slasher · 28 Jun 2003, 13:50

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Originally posted by cyphie
guys no offence... but biggest defence i've personally seen on sliekas was 100 mil? that was over 4/5 waves of defence? sliekas himself has 30 mil fleet... wtf is so HUGE and special?:S heh..

the fleets being sent to defend sliekas are so special

but since 7 of the defenders were closed yesterday, i think we can stop the discussion and agree ldk cheats.

from the 4 ldk people who attacked me 1 week ago, the 3 escorts are now closed

gratz multihunters thx for finally doing your job

Gerbie · 28 Jun 2003, 14:11

So eventhough the offensive is not that successfull in killing LDK ships and stealing their roids, it weakens them severely, because their multi accounts get closed. Seems like LDK is not that unbeatable afterall.

Razorback · 28 Jun 2003, 14:25

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Originally posted by cyphie

me scared of losing planet..... hehe..... yep i'd care... lol btw talking to me about escorts is kinda useless as i actually don't use em... (see my roidcount )

You used escorts earlier in the round some got even closed. Facts unless you claim a conspiracy of small planets without pods who try to throw a bad light on you by escorting you without your consent.

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that was wave 5 or so already if not more

Urms some waves were covered with over 30 fleets defending. One is saw was 38 def fleets while on others many aswell. Most amusingly if you talk about bigsized defenders most of them werent. And as alot of the 38 fleets came from 2 mil planets 100 million with 30 million own fleet seems about right to get the facts straight here.

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i somehow doubt you've EVER been on ldk channels... (maybe not even ldk irc...)

Even LDK has spies in their channels., a concept which might be new to you.

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now i think i'll just agree to lrytas and not post much more.... as heh i doubt there's anyone who has the intelligence to see what's happinin anyways.....

Anyone... sounds kinda arrogant, you are the choosen one apparently who sees no cheating and all others are blind. Sure cypher or should i say "cheater" ? Wonder how you got this title when you were so poor and innocent.

cypher · 28 Jun 2003, 15:14

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Originally posted by Razorback
You used escorts earlier in the round some got even closed. Facts unless you claim a conspiracy of small planets without pods who try to throw a bad light on you by escorting you without your consent.

Urms some waves were covered with over 30 fleets defending. One is saw was 38 def fleets while on others many aswell. Most amusingly if you talk about bigsized defenders most of them werent. And as alot of the 38 fleets came from 2 mil planets 100 million with 30 million own fleet seems about right to get the facts straight here.

Even LDK has spies in their channels., a concept which might be new to you.

Anyone... sounds kinda arrogant, you are the choosen one apparently who sees no cheating and all others are blind. Sure cypher or should i say "cheater" ? Wonder how you got this title when you were so poor and innocent.

i've always used loads of escorts yes... that's what people have always been able to see on scans

..

newsscan my current target?:P some nice size defenders there as usual... doesn't that matter?

spies sure... you prolly have em... some other alliances might.. but hal?:P heh..

and about cheating... i doubt you are one to say anything focht

but tbh i've had enough of these AD lame flaming things..... so i'll let you all think what you want and i'll see ya all later

Petru · 28 Jun 2003, 15:19

You might want to watch it with the cheat accusations Focht, pot kettle black etc, might bite you some time.

Zotnam · 28 Jun 2003, 15:36

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Originally posted by Denniz
Yeah, i was wondering about the ldk membercount,
cuz they used a lot of fleets to def Sliekas.
And i saw like around 30-40 fleets of LDK coming towards my gal.
Scanned most of th attackers and several had 2/3 fleets out attacking. And im sure they hit more gals and had more planets to def.
I was told by Lrytas that they have more then 80 members, but atm it seems they have like 200 members

atm I have around 30 ldk planets on my arse

And nearly all are under 2 mill and random... Oh, I really really really, do wonder

zerocore · 28 Jun 2003, 16:03

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Originally posted by Zotnam
atm I have around 30 ldk planets on my arse And nearly all are under 2 mill and random... Oh, I really really really, do wonder

lol, and wich of those planets is/are LDK?

K-W · 28 Jun 2003, 16:20

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Originally posted by Petru
You might want to watch it with the cheat accusations Focht, pot kettle black etc, might bite you some time.

As has been the case since the beginning of arguments, attacking the person making the argument is in no way an attack on the argument.

hAl · 28 Jun 2003, 16:29

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Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
the fleets being sent to defend sliekas are so special
but since 7 of the defenders were closed yesterday, i think we can stop the discussion and agree ldk cheats.

from the 4 ldk people who attacked me 1 week ago, the 3 escorts are now closed
gratz multihunters thx for finally doing your job

will need a lot more than that.
They should have closed more planets that attack using multi planets. The big planets I mean and not just the escorts. I you get attack by 5 planets and the 4 planets without pods are closed but the big guy (currently top 16) can keep playing that makes me sad.

hAl

SilverSmoke · 28 Jun 2003, 16:44

half of the attackers on sliekas where escorts from eclipse and ely

lokken · 28 Jun 2003, 16:55

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Originally posted by Tesla

50-60ish on IRC
80-100ish all in all...

Bit optimistic unless there are large planets dedicated to defending when they are dedicated enough to attacking as it is. Are they sacrificing roiding to defend, for example? If large planets are then it's invisagable. If not, then I would probably smell a rat.

I can see why you seem to be slightly sceptical. I'd like to see it done and explained.

Hala · 28 Jun 2003, 18:44

what alot of you are forgetting is that defenders can (and generally do) defend for 6ticks, this means theoretically if the attack was spaced out in a maximum of 3 tick waves (haven't been following whats going on that much so haven't seen newsies) then defenders can roughly cover 2 waves whilst they're there.

lokken · 28 Jun 2003, 19:04

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Originally posted by Hala
what alot of you are forgetting is that defenders can (and generally do) defend for 6ticks, this means theoretically if the attack was spaced out in a maximum of 3 tick waves (haven't been following whats going on that much so haven't seen newsies) then defenders can roughly cover 2 waves whilst they're there.

When someone says waves, I presume they mean 6 tick spaced out waves.

G.K Zhukov · 28 Jun 2003, 19:53

the attack on forthy one two eight was horrible organized. Whoever the BC was, he/she was doing a crap job.

/me waves to Turtle

The_Fish · 28 Jun 2003, 20:25

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Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
the attack on forthy one two eight was horrible organized. Whoever the BC was, he/she was doing a crap job.

/me waves to Turtle

The attack on forty two two one was also poor organising, and even worse calcing

/me also waves to Turtle

Denniz · 28 Jun 2003, 20:46

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Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
the attack on forthy one two eight was horrible organized. Whoever the BC was, he/she was doing a crap job.

/me waves to Turtle

Im still laughing at the eta 8 / 9 attacks they launch on top LDK planets.

Why not pa mail the planet you will hit that you will drop by in some hrs. From what i saw most LDK members are xan and the zik / caths have a lot fi/co.
So going in with anything higher then 7 is just stupid.

hAl · 28 Jun 2003, 21:01

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Originally posted by Denniz
Im still laughing at the eta 8 / 9 attacks they launch on top LDK planets.

Why not pa mail the planet you will hit that you will drop by in some hrs. From what i saw most LDK members are xan and the zik / caths have a lot fi/co.
So going in with anything higher then 7 is just stupid.

Also the attack times. Early morning attacks. Like they haven't gotten a clue that Lithauania is an hour earlier than most of europe.

launch at 4 or 5 LDK planets at 1:55 and then on a few planets every few ticks after that. don't put one planet under attack but a few dozen.

hAl

Knight Theamion · 29 Jun 2003, 00:25

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Originally posted by Denniz
Im still laughing at the eta 8 / 9 attacks they launch on top LDK planets.

Why not pa mail the planet you will hit that you will drop by in some hrs. From what i saw most LDK members are xan and the zik / caths have a lot fi/co.
So going in with anything higher then 7 is just stupid.

Most LDK players are indeed Xandraathi and Zikonian and Cathaar

usually in a 5:2:1 ratio.

Per player.

The_Fish · 29 Jun 2003, 00:29

lol that made me laugh more than Zhukov's earlier effort.

Unf_Slasher · 29 Jun 2003, 00:45

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Originally posted by hAl
will need a lot more than that.
They should have closed more planets that attack using multi planets. The big planets I mean and not just the escorts. I you get attack by 5 planets and the 4 planets without pods are closed but the big guy (currently top 16) can keep playing that makes me sad.

hAl

the current example is, 5 planets attacking... 1 via normal ip. big ugly ****er.
perfect data filled in, all is correct.
all the others being played via proxy or anonymizer.
that way the 4 small ones get closed, but nothing can be proven on the big one (paraphrasing what i got told when i asked why he is open).

Scouse · 29 Jun 2003, 00:47

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Originally posted by K-W
As has been the case since the beginning of arguments, attacking the person making the argument is in no way an attack on the argument.

This is amusing coming from you, Germ. I'd say "Are you stupid?", "Grow up" or "Can you read?" are personal attacks. And what Petru said was simply a suggestion of hypocrisy.

xtothez · 29 Jun 2003, 01:00

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Originally posted by cyphie
i somehow doubt you've EVER been on ldk channels... (maybe not even ldk irc...)

No, but some of us have.

Tesla's post is correct, LDK's priv chan peaked at 60-65 members, while averaging at 45-55 online. Doing well to cover your current incs while still throwing out 1-3 attack fleets a night, eh?

Som1 · 29 Jun 2003, 02:43

Actually to make this clear for good, I used to be pretty close to LDK.

There's no BOT scandales, and the multis account are not organised on a whole alliance level thus accusing LDK as a group alltogether is pretty lame.

There is indeed account sharing within members and nothing will ever be done to them(as nothing would ever be done to any members that their HC would find out about their acc sharingin any alliances; exceptionnaly in very very few alliances).

Multis are being made by a few members; these few members will often defend the others with their multis account claiming those are brothers or sisters(and sometimes it might be true, but they'll just launch it for them anyway)... Eventhough they do have some 'defense dedicated' friends, I know a few of these types of friends described by Theamion which are linked to LDK(and are not exactly members), but very few of them

.

That's why it seems there's about 100 peoples cheating but it is not the case

I just wish peoples stop talking about it and actually report theses.

Razorback · 29 Jun 2003, 04:16

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Originally posted by SilverSmoke
half of the attackers on sliekas where escorts from eclipse and ely

problem: no eclipse attackers. It was wp attacking him. 1337 intel

Razorback · 29 Jun 2003, 04:17

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Originally posted by Scouse
This is amusing coming from you, Germ. I'd say "Are you stupid?", "Grow up" or "Can you read?" are personal attacks. And what Petru said was simply a suggestion of hypocrisy.

Petrue is famous for his inspiring wit.

Divine_Shadow · 29 Jun 2003, 04:21

LDK simply has very active defenders, you dont see that ?

This is from my Combat Journal alone:

I win again anyway(41:2:8) 578
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 596
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 597
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 598
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 599
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 603
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 604
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 605
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 606
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 607
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 613
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 614
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 615
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 616
I win again anyway(41:2:8) 617

On a side note, the average score of LDK defenders is typically a lot higher then the average score of the attackers..