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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 11:24   #1
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VvomM Propoganda team

Just thought i'd ask you to stop wasting your time and our time by posting and stating that your defeated in an attempt to create hostilities.

Fact is no-one listens to propoganda anymore, this forum is no longer a place to win over the mindless masses.

WEET/NAR will determine for themsevles when your dead, when the targets become short, the double bookings increase and the general stagnation sets in.

Trying to beat the ex-furgion at their own game by entising them to hit each other is indeed feutile. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it will not be by your means.

In short, stop posting your annoying/repetetive threads.


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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 11:35   #2
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Re: VvomM Propoganda team

Nobody asks you to read "our" treads...
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Re: VvomM Propoganda team

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In short, stop posting your annoying/repetetive threads.


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had a good laugh at that bit
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 11:44   #4
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is this irony?
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 11:49   #5
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Im not trying to fool anyone.. Im telling em that its getting old, lack of action, same old same old.. The last week, including today: Log in => See lost of nasty red => not even bothering to ask ally cuz there just is no def cuz they are all under attack => Accept fate => throw a somewhat desperate retal back => get retarded msgs from the opposition saying they have fkloads of def etc etc => ignore the msg => regain half the roids u lost => drop 100-150k in score..
If this is fun then whoppety doo, I must have all the fun in the world atm...
Maybe we arent totally beaten, but its onesided to the extent of one side growing and other side shrinking..

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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 11:51   #6
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is this irony?
Seems so, maybe he likes the sound of his own voice the same way he seems to enjoy reading his own completely useless posts?
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Seems so, maybe he likes the sound of his own voice the same way he seems to enjoy reading his own completely useless posts?
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:17   #8
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is this irony?
The real irony is most of the ppl whinging about how they are been beaten to a pulp, are mainly ppl from the flttv powerblock of round 5 who were happy to beat NoCeX into the ground, so much so that there was never even a remote possibility of them recovering to fight again.
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:23   #9
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The real irony is most of the ppl whinging about how they are been beaten to a pulp, are mainly ppl from the flttv powerblock of round 5 who were happy to beat NoCeX into the ground, so much so that there was never even a remote possibility of them recovering to fight again.
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:32   #10
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BORING ROUND, BORING THREADS,....GET A WAR STARTED ALLREADY!!!THIS 'WINNER' IS BORED
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:44   #11
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:47   #12
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The real irony is most of the ppl whinging about how they are been beaten to a pulp, are mainly ppl from the flttv powerblock of round 5 who were happy to beat NoCeX into the ground, so much so that there was never even a remote possibility of them recovering to fight again.
actually, no...

if you want to talk about the r5 fltv members and where they are now..i'd say about 95% of them no longer play, and the remaining are mainly in Virus (only remaining alliance from back then), Eclipse (lots of ex-fury in there), Rah (lots of ex fury in there)...

might be some still in ToT as well (if they still exist?)

and i doubt they'res many r5 virus around anymore either...

stop making this a revenge thing about 4 rounds ago, because it's not..
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:50   #13
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farming threads would be nice.. /me looks at a certain nos gal:P

but necro...your propaganda is just as ****..
but let's just have fun i know my alliance is still doing that..

funny thing about these situations is that the 'winners' are having less fun then the 'losers'
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:51   #14
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The real irony is most of the ppl whinging about how they are been beaten to a pulp, are mainly ppl from the flttv powerblock of round 5 who were happy to beat NoCeX into the ground, so much so that there was never even a remote possibility of them recovering to fight again.
You have little idea. A lot the gals being attacked have nothing to do with that period. Most alliances under attack aren't even in vvomm. Only about 15% of the universe is vvomm, the other alliances and indepentant gals are more like 25% to 30% of the other gals and those gals in total get more incomings than vvomm does.

And for instance in vvomm Ministry was even a part of NoCeX. Actually WEET contains a lot of those r5 fltv player in the form of fury members. With current weetnar size their certainly is more flttv members in them then in vvomm or the other alliances together.

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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:52   #15
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Teh_Necro

Firstly there is no formalised VOM propoganda squad...just peeps fed up with the overly excessive NARSWEET coalition and the stagnation it is creating in this game. Since when was this not allowed?

Secondly if anyone was sad enough to add up the posts on the various so called 'propoganda' threads (i.e. Powah Blocking) it would be clear that the individual propoganda prize (based solely on quantity (and not quality) of posts) would have to go to Germania (KW) who is on the NARSWEET side!
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 12:57   #16
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Re: VvomM Propoganda team

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Just thought i'd ask you to stop wasting your time and our time by posting and stating that your defeated in an attempt to create hostilities.

Fact is no-one listens to propoganda anymore, this forum is no longer a place to win over the mindless masses.

WEET/NAR will determine for themsevles when your dead, when the targets become short, the double bookings increase and the general stagnation sets in.

Trying to beat the ex-furgion at their own game by entising them to hit each other is indeed feutile. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it will not be by your means.

In short, stop posting your annoying/repetetive threads.

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I'm not vvomm and I could hardly care if whatever you do in your stupid waar with then except to say that apperantly you were to chicken to face them in an even match up.

But certainly not being in vvomm your side still totally pisses me off for waging a full scale war against us with most of the universe united behind you !!

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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 13:41   #17
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Re: Re: VvomM Propoganda team

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I'm not vvomm and I could hardly care if whatever you do in your stupid waar with then except to say that apperantly you were to chicken to face them in an even match up.

But certainly not being in vvomm your side still totally pisses me off for waging a full scale war against us with most of the universe united behind you !!

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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 13:45   #18
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My galaxy is apprantly a vvomm HC gal
hmmm, judging by looks of my gal status mine is as well...
this is just pathetic what is going on here. i have been on the receiving end of things in r5 and in r7 but it has never been as bad as this round. my gal has no vvomm person in it whatsoever and we get incs from all over the universe, be it in para or incluster or both or from the rest of the universe as well. our "luck" so far has been that we are attacked by so many ppl that they ruin their capping....
and oh yes, my gal is ranked somewhere beyond 350th. i dont understand what fun fun you are still getting out of this, i for my part would be ashamed of myself, really "l33t" skills etc...
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 14:09   #20
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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
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lol, just after writing my last post we get some new inpara incs, this brings the total of attacking fleets to roughly 50 with around 12k visible ships attacking. pld, i hope wanking over your great skills doesnt take too much toll on your tendons, i dont want to see you get hurt...
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Re: VvomM Propoganda team

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In short, stop posting your annoying/repetetive threads.


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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
pls do a little math before you say something
atm it wouldnt suprise me if average roid size of a vvomm member is below 150. most of us arent above the 750k score.
then lets take a look at narweet
average roid count a member is above 250 atleast !!
average size would be 1.5mill atleast

each day you grow almost twice as fast in score (if you dont do that already).
each day you have less problems defending, if you have them at all.
each day you have 4times better chance to get roids.

so do you really think we will have plenty of time to rebuild again if you continue a week like this ??
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well hordes are about to leave pa due to your **** for brains tactics! who gives a dam what we do on the forums when it is your actions that have caused the death of the game?
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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
As I have said before and prolly will say again...you in WEET and particularly you in Eclipse have a GIGANTIC interest in maintaining NARSWEET as long as possible and seeing VOM totally and untterly devastated.

I was in an Ely gal in R5 when WTFVE ripped NoCeX to shreds and led to massive stagnation and boredom. I remember how eventually Fury abandoned WP and VTS/Legion abandoned Ely ('in the interests of the game right?) once the war against NoCeX was won.

With NoCeX devastated Ely and WP had no one left to turn to against VTS and Fury and another one-sided war began resulting in a predictable Fury/Legion victory.

You simply want to repeat the tactic here - only this time its WEET and Eclipse instead of Fury and Legion...

It's completely understandable but means ur posts are as biased (if not more so) than the VOM posters attacked here!
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You simply want to repeat the tactic here - only this time its WEET and Eclipse instead of Fury and Legion... its completely understandable but means ur posts are as biased (if not more so) than the VOM posters attacked here!
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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
K-W you really think you are funny....
You talking only in youre own intrest.

Vom can rebuild ye ye dont let me we try and try but every time 4 waves of inc how can we rebuild if we lose it in 24 hours again.

I dont have any words to say but you are talking crap
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You have little idea. A lot the gals being attacked have nothing to do with that period. Most alliances under attack aren't even in vvomm. Only about 15% of the universe is vvomm, the other alliances and indepentant gals are more like 25% to 30% of the other gals and those gals in total get more incomings than vvomm does.

And for instance in vvomm Ministry was even a part of NoCeX. Actually WEET contains a lot of those r5 fltv player in the form of fury members. With current weetnar size their certainly is more flttv members in them then in vvomm or the other alliances together.

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not 110% sure, but afaik ministry wasn't with us in r5
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pls do a little math before you say something
atm it wouldnt suprise me if average roid size of a vvomm member is below 150. most of us arent above the 750k score.
then lets take a look at narweet
average roid count a member is above 250 atleast !!
average size would be 1.5mill atleast

each day you grow almost twice as fast in score (if you dont do that already).
each day you have less problems defending, if you have them at all.
each day you have 4times better chance to get roids.

so do you really think we will have plenty of time to rebuild again if you continue a week like this ??
Yes. I think it is bloody obvious that a 100 roid advantage is not really that much. You will have plenty of time to rebuild if we continued for more than a week. Thats why im not advocating truely crusing Vom, it would be pointless, theres too much time left in the round to kill vom for good.
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not 110% sure, but afaik ministry wasn't with us in r5

we were neutral, idling fkers who sometimes happened to play PA in their spare time.


apart from not being neutral not alot has changed \o/

(the good thing about being idling fkers is that the minor circumstance that our fleets are slowly but surely getting obliterated gets a 'lol' at the most and doesnt cause us to break \o/)
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Yes. I think it is bloody obvious that a 100 roid advantage is not really that much. You will have plenty of time to rebuild if we continued for more than a week. Thats why im not advocating truely crusing Vom, it would be pointless, theres too much time left in the round to kill vom for good.
well, actually the top 1000 players has any average of about 400 roids and they are virtually all ZWARTNEEF planets. The average of 150 for NON-ZWARTNEEF gals could be about right. But the difference is at least a factor 2,5 and not just 100 roids. The NON-ZWARTNEEF roids are 95% selfinitiated roids where the ZWARTNEEF roids are only about 25 to 30% initiated themselves
Also the score difference is huge so recovering those roids is virtually impossible.

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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
How the fk do u rebuild when all ur members are under attack all day everyday at the same fckin time; 5:55-59 GMT... We cant defend when everyone is under attack, our only chance is retal and at the end of the day u outnumber us to the extent of unfunnyness... But sure tell urself its a battle.. Whatever makes u happy... I thought u knew better from beein a bashed FLTTV in r6, mind u, u didnt get to rebuild till FoS and XeTa started fighting..

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should have sticked to the agriculture

easier to grow like that:P
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I'm too chicken.

That is argueably the most fantastic assumption ever , well done thats as thats a rather difficult feat around here.

As for the rest of u, my point is not that VvomM are not getting pummlled, nor is it that VvomM are not outnumbered, indeed this is the case, and if u actually knew me, then u'd understand i was against any NAR / WEET coalition. However my post did state that it is feutile for you to post random bollocks about "difficulties in weetnar" and spread propoganda to speed up the inevitable conflict between NARWEET. As quite simply, the only time this will happen is when ur so far into the ground, u'll be popping up somewhere around Sydney.

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Probably not ;/

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should have sticked to the agriculture

easier to grow like that:P
1 Victory out of 10, GO CYPHIE GO!!!



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all mine are victories:P and this was just your gal farming even has it's limits necro:P and any way to stop YOUR gal is fun:P
your gal didn't attack the others
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ffs stop this dumb BS about "we are better", " we are right cause we are winning", and get a life ffs, i am getting sick of this weetnar propaganda u post here, and indeed u get a bit of vommv's ideas back yeah.

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I'm too chicken.

That is argueably the most fantastic assumption ever , well done thats as thats a rather difficult feat around here.

As for the rest of u, my point is not that VvomM are not getting pummlled, nor is it that VvomM are not outnumbered, indeed this is the case, and if u actually knew me, then u'd understand i was against any NAR / WEET coalition. However my post did state that it is feutile for you to post random bollocks about "difficulties in weetnar" and spread propoganda to speed up the inevitable conflict between NARWEET. As quite simply, the only time this will happen is when ur so far into the ground, u'll be popping up somewhere around Sydney.

Kapieche?

Probably not ;/

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You do probably do not get that since i do not realy play anymore I can make as many posts at i like about how twattish you your gal, your alliance and you superblock are and this will probably continua so far into this round that by then nobody will even remember your gal as it is already moved up a list of primary targets a long long time ago (not by us or by vvomm btw)

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I dunno its all kinda mixed one part complains in a sort of whining manner but one side has an excellant point. on 5 occasions that I have personally seen 5 planets had 3 waves of <pure weet not NAR however 2 came from dragon galaxies> the total amount of hostiles exceeded 4k the planet these people all have 350-450k more score than the person they were attacking and the total amount of roids the planet had was 75! 3 waves to hit a 75 roid planet now. Also I have seen lots of piggybacking <meaning waved planets where the eta between attackers is 1-2 apart from each other>. The people would get PA mails from their attacker calling them various names due to the extra incoming which by the way was also from the same alliance or block that the person PA mailing was from.

I do not know if they are scared to engage each other or they plan on maintaining the nap for the full round and if thats the case the round is dead and they have successfully killed it already pretty much. So its not up to vvomm to do anything its up to the Nar / weet to do something and if their nap remains the top player will only be something like 8 mil with 2.2k roids heh. Make no mistake though if Nar / weet does engage each other vvomm will add extra incoming to either both or one of those alliances which is another reason I still think eclipse and Rah and 1 other group will form a new block or some new alliance emerge from within eclipse.

I do not mind to much about all the propaganda it all has its places in wars but ya do not have to read it heh. People should be able to post whatever they wanna so long as its in the right area but making a thread to tell people propaganda is lame is in fact a version of propaganda heh.
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The biggest valid complaint I think there is against the vom posting on the forums is this. Theyve been complainging about the boring round, and being dead since like 2 days into the round. Therefore its hard to buy it as a totally earnest plea. We are still very early in the round, there is plenty of time left for more fun, and vom still has a ton of time to rebuild.
Keep telling yourself that.
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well hordes are about to leave pa due to your **** for brains tactics! who gives a dam what we do on the forums when it is your actions that have caused the death of the game?
You need a history lesson if you think that ANYTHING done during the course of r9 could cause the death of PA, since most people would say that the events of r5, or perhaps even earlier had already spelled the games demise. Besides, perhaps the only hope to make PA a playable game again is to get all the vets to leave.
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You do probably do not get that since i do not realy play anymore I can make as many posts at i like about how twattish you your gal, your alliance and you superblock are and this will probably continua so far into this round that by then nobody will even remember your gal as it is already moved up a list of primary targets a long long time ago (not by us or by vvomm btw)

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HATE is a very powerful tool, i thank you for it.

Btw cyphie, i resent u calling me a farmer. Bring some sort of proof b4 insulting a friend.


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Could have something to due with the fact that last night proved you don't know how to attack ... at least, not at cyphers
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Could have something to due with the fact that last night proved you don't know how to attack ... at least, not at cyphers
We don't know how to attack?

Why dont u tell that to the countless allies of yours that i've goated. Also to the rest of Cyphies galaxy.

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Btw cyphie, i resent u calling me a farmer. Bring some sort of proof b4 insulting a friend.


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As I have said before and prolly will say again...you in WEET and particularly you in Eclipse have a GIGANTIC interest in maintaining NARSWEET as long as possible and seeing VOM totally and untterly devastated.

I was in an Ely gal in R5 when WTFVE ripped NoCeX to shreds and led to massive stagnation and boredom. I remember how eventually Fury abandoned WP and VTS/Legion abandoned Ely ('in the interests of the game right?) once the war against NoCeX was won.

With NoCeX devastated Ely and WP had no one left to turn to against VTS and Fury and another one-sided war began resulting in a predictable Fury/Legion victory.

You simply want to repeat the tactic here - only this time its WEET and Eclipse instead of Fury and Legion...

It's completely understandable but means ur posts are as biased (if not more so) than the VOM posters attacked here!
Interesting analysis, yet flawed beyond belief. Elysium in r5 never joined forces with others to battle Legion or Fury. Remember the coalition that formed was to take on Legion, not Fury. (Noone was stupid enough to take on both). Elysium at the time were at a guess quite shocked by Legion's display (after all, there was nothing in their history with Legion to justify the drop) and didnt really have the heart for any war - be it with Fury or Legion. If Elysium had managed to join in the war and the 'coalition' then they might have had some success vs Legion. As it is the coalition lost its momentum and Legion won.

WPO at the time had changed completely from what Fury wished in its allies. Don't forget the backstab from WP in r4 was still fresh on its mind. It was a test for Fury's allies, one that they begin to do well in but failed.

With the history lesson over there were many more dark hidden secrets to the motives for r5 Fury. None of which are present here in this round because Eclipse is not Fury. You should really not refer to WEET and Eclipse seperately. Eclipse is part of WEET (one of the E's).
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