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25 Nov 2002, 15:00
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25 Nov 2002, 15:05
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Titans/LDK are winning. If the round ended tomorrow, they would be declared 'winners'. But, then again, if round 6 had stopped a month earlier then Xeta would have been 'winners'. It's also arguable that if round 6 had ended 2 months earlier, FLVT would have been 'winners'.
None of this matters, only the end of round rankings
There's no point in pretending Titans/LDK aren't winning, only the most boneheaded of zealots would believe that. For the other alliances, what matters is preventing absolute Titans/LDK victory, because once that has happened, the competition (and therefore, for many, the only reason to keep playing) is over.
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25 Nov 2002, 15:31
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Miles Teg
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Originally posted by Rumad
PA is ephemeral, so the current lay of the land is far fromover yet :-)
And when FAnG wins the round and takes over the universe you will all be eating humble pie....
(NB: This is humour so please no snotty remarks)
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it isnt humor when you deliberately state it is humor, then it is sad.
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25 Nov 2002, 15:31
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Interesting...
Still awaits HC anouncements tho. Or perhaps us peons will just be given targets that contains Titans/LDK/virus planets, and close to the end they will tell us we've been working together all alone .
PS - Im elysium peon if anybody wonders
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25 Nov 2002, 15:43
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Miles Teg
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Originally posted by Rumad
I have to state it to stop the drongo's from taking it in the litteral sense. But your right its sad I have to explain humour because of the incessant flaming I receive.
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anyhow i am off roiding piggybackers of the mainwave on 26:9
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25 Nov 2002, 15:46
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#dragons
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Who are attacking 26:9?
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25 Nov 2002, 15:49
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Miles Teg
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i also see fury :S
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25 Nov 2002, 15:50
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay-Em
Who are attacking them(26:9)?
at least LDK, Titans and WP...
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If you are referring back to 'them' as to some alliance from earlier in this post than please quote that so we all understand to whom your are referring.
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25 Nov 2002, 15:53
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25 Nov 2002, 15:54
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Let's make it simple, Titans/LDK/Virus is confirmed as a block. No rumours just facts. They attack anything that isn't Titans/LDK/Virus. So that is Fury/Fang/Nos/Wp/Ely/Rah/hirr/TFD/ND/ToT and some others. So it's Tit & CO vs the others. Not all alliance's will focus on hitting Titans/LDK/Virus back, but you don't have to be a block to create "the other side"
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25 Nov 2002, 16:02
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Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
Let's make it simple, Titans/LDK/Virus is confirmed as a block. No rumours just facts. They attack anything that isn't Titans/LDK/Virus. So that is Fury/Fang/Nos/Wp/Ely/Rah/hirr/TFD/ND/ToT and some others. So it's Tit & CO vs the others. Not all alliance's will focus on hitting Titans/LDK/Virus back, but you don't have to be a block to create "the other side"
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sounds the most plausable explanation..
and if were hitting 26:9, why am i defending someone in there?
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25 Nov 2002, 16:03
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
Let's make it simple, Titans/LDK/Virus is confirmed as a block. No rumours just facts. They attack anything that isn't Titans/LDK/Virus. So that is Fury/Fang/Nos/Wp/Ely/Rah/hirr/TFD/ND/ToT and some others. So it's Tit & CO vs the others. Not all alliance's will focus on hitting Titans/LDK/Virus back, but you don't have to be a block to create "the other side"
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Lets say : we shoot at anything that moves, unless it's a fluffy white kitten with a paralysed back leg on the right side and a ginger spot around the nose.
According to your theory, that makes every alliances that does this, a side.
I guess this is where you either retract your theory or admit your idea of the actual 'sides' now is wrong.
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25 Nov 2002, 16:04
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Miles Teg
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Originally posted by Cicada
sounds the most plausable explanation..
and if were hitting 26:9, why am i defending someone in there?
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you are defending |DeviL| while for instance cypher is attacking Tyrion.
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25 Nov 2002, 16:05
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Originally posted by Knight Theamion
you are defending |DeviL| while for instance cypher is attacking Tyrion.
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Tyrion will survive!! \o/
He earns his place on top... at last.
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25 Nov 2002, 16:07
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25 Nov 2002, 16:09
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Miles Teg
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Originally posted by Jay-Em
Tyrion will survive!! \o/
He earns his place on top... at last.
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25 Nov 2002, 16:12
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home wrecker
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Quote:
Originally posted by Aviendha1975
Lets say : we shoot at anything that moves, unless it's a fluffy white kitten with a paralysed back leg on the right side and a ginger spot around the nose.
According to your theory, that makes every alliances that does this, a side.
I guess this is where you either retract your theory or admit your idea of the actual 'sides' now is wrong.
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as far as I'm concerned you're the "other side" Avie (ie not mine heh you can have your own name if you wish, 'valiant crusader of idividuality' or something more poetic, but I doubt it would stop incomming from "my side" )
it's a bit simplistic his view point admittdly, but it's one of the few things that has made sense in this thread thus far
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25 Nov 2002, 16:14
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I just hate incorrectness, specially on these boards.
Unless you can say 100% accurate things, you shouldn't post here imo heh.
And yes i most surely consider you my other side, tell asmo i mean it purely in a platonic way tho
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25 Nov 2002, 16:38
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Originally posted by Knight Theamion
you are defending |DeviL| while for instance cypher is attacking Tyrion.
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funny thing is i'm deffing |devil|| aswell:P
*correction* i WAS deffing him...as it was covered and therefore i could recall:P
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25 Nov 2002, 16:40
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Originally posted by cyphie
funny thing is i'm deffing |devil|| aswell:P
*correction* i WAS deffing him...as it was covered and therefore i could recall:P
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25 Nov 2002, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally posted by Aviendha1975
Lets say : we shoot at anything that moves, unless it's a fluffy white kitten with a paralysed back leg on the right side and a ginger spot around the nose.
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Ahhh Sorry Avie I hit the fluffy white Kitten this morning on an OB attack...it now has a torn ear.
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Ark-miner wannabe
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Originally posted by Toop
Where is SL in all of this?
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25 Nov 2002, 16:46
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Originally posted by cyphie
funny thing is i'm deffing |devil|| aswell:P
*correction* i WAS deffing him...as it was covered and therefore i could recall:P
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Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
Let's make it simple, Titans/LDK/Virus is confirmed as a block. No rumours just facts. They attack anything that isn't Titans/LDK/Virus.
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That's incorrect. We target people who are hostile to us, mostly Fury and Fang so far. To my knowledge there has not been an official raid from one of our BG's on a non-Fury/FAnG target for a long, long time.
Alliances who are neutral are free to do as they wish as we have no problem whatsoever with them. The problem arises when one of these neutral alliances gets annoyed by one of their members being roided by one of ours, and tries to get pay back.
As far as I can see, it is entirely up to the neutral alliances whether they want to step into the firing line with 4 weeks left, or whether they want to stay out of it and hope that stagnation doesn't completely kick in (which it won't) resulting in them being targetted too.
I would personally take much more pleasure in bashing Fury for the remainder of the round than starting on a new alliance. We may very well be in the leading position at the moment but we have not won anything yet, as anyone with half a brain would realise, but we didn't get where we are by twiddling our thumbs either.
We got hostiles from all alliances, of course we do, it's part of the game, but we haven't targetted any alliance 'in full' other than Fury and FAnG*, despite what some alliances think.
* We haven't targetted FAnG the last week or so since their problems arose.
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25 Nov 2002, 17:06
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25 Nov 2002, 17:08
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bah... I knew this days ago and wanted to break to AD =(
too slow
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25 Nov 2002, 17:11
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And the round has been interesting since day 1.
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25 Nov 2002, 17:17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
Let's make it simple, Titans/LDK/Virus is confirmed as a block. No rumours just facts. They attack anything that isn't Titans/LDK/Virus. So that is Fury/Fang/Nos/Wp/Ely/Rah/hirr/TFD/ND/ToT and some others. So it's Tit & CO vs the others. Not all alliance's will focus on hitting Titans/LDK/Virus back, but you don't have to be a block to create "the other side"
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Don't forget Cows and KoN. hirr has been working with them (sort of a nap with maybe 2 shared attacks all round).
It seems that this is not about powerblocking anymore and that this is about the balance of power. If Titans/LDK/Virus are left unchecked, the next few weeks of PA will be a bloodbath.
Hopefully this will give Titans / LDK the much needed competition going into the final lap and keep interest up.
You can't look at this as blocking, you can only look at it as trying to achieve balance now.
Even if Titans / LDK win it, they certainly don't want a cakewalk throught the last month. This should be seen as doing them a favour.
: )
Leto
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Theres Vision and Ministry aswell
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duke Leto
Even if Titans / LDK win it, they certainly don't want a cakewalk throught the last month. This should be seen as doing them a favour.
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Sometimes others know what is the best for you, even if it hurts
but funny topic and funny thread, Osama bin Laden was also in the channel amonst some other famous and hated ppl.
PLD titans propaganda, tho i miss scouse abit in it, is he ill ? my best wishes to him.
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25 Nov 2002, 17:26
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home wrecker
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Originally posted by Aviendha1975
I just hate incorrectness, specially on these boards.
Unless you can say 100% accurate things, you shouldn't post here imo heh.
And yes i most surely consider you my other side, tell asmo i mean it purely in a platonic way tho
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Re: _Finally_ the round gets interesting
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Originally posted by djcomplex
[16:12] <|Darky|> juppz, we have an agreement with Fury and NoS
[16:12] <|Darky|> we won´t hit each other and only concentrate on hitting titans/ldk/Virus
[16:18] <|Darky|> it´s Fury/Fang/WP/Ely/ToT/NoS on our side
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25 Nov 2002, 17:40
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Ark-miner wannabe
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we should just delete our board accounts now then
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Re: Re: _Finally_ the round gets interesting
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perhaps you should ask this allys if they really join such an Powerblock! Im pretty sure that FAnG wont join! and ToT has no agreements with NoS/Ely/WP atm! so be careful what you are telling to other people!
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25 Nov 2002, 18:13
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Nothing Is Forever.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duke Leto
Don't forget Cows and KoN. hirr has been working with them (sort of a nap with maybe 2 shared attacks all round).
It seems that this is not about powerblocking anymore and that this is about the balance of power. If Titans/LDK/Virus are left unchecked, the next few weeks of PA will be a bloodbath.
Hopefully this will give Titans / LDK the much needed competition going into the final lap and keep interest up.
You can't look at this as blocking, you can only look at it as trying to achieve balance now.
Even if Titans / LDK win it, they certainly don't want a cakewalk throught the last month. This should be seen as doing them a favour.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Duke Leto
Hopefully this will give Titans / LDK the much needed competition going into the final lap and keep interest up.
You can't look at this as blocking, you can only look at it as trying to achieve balance now.
Even if Titans / LDK win it, they certainly don't want a cakewalk throught the last month. This should be seen as doing them a favour.
: )
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Leto - I think this is underestimating the opposition that Titans/LDk already has. Fury certainly hasn't given up and they have been joined by strong elements of FAnG, Adelante and others...There is certainly no stagnation atm...but could be if everyone gangs up against Titans/LDK.
Just to reiterate: Posted by Scouse:
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We target people who are hostile to us, mostly Fury and Fang so far. To my knowledge there has not been an official raid from one of our BG's on a non-Fury/FAnG target for a long, long time.
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As Titans official targets are Fury/FAnG and they are intent on battling them then there is no real reason for other alliances to get involved. There are still lots of big Fury/FAnG targets in the Top 250 to keep Titans/LDK occupied.
If WP/Ely/Rah/NoS (or whoever) think they have a good chance of winning the round themselves and decide to bash Titans/LDK to achieve this objective then fairplay to them.
If however they are manipulated into attacking Titans/LDK simply as a spoiler to stop them making #1 - then that wud be sad...especially considering the treatment they have had at the hands of Fury in previous rounds.
So if you are a HC of an alliance considering joining the 'Stop Titans/LDK' campaign that has been initiated by Fury then think again. There is still four weeks to go in this round and plenty of time for you to improve the standing of your own alliance without doing Fury's dirty work...
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(Or anybody in WP for that matter.)
Oh well, no matter how it goes, I sure hope you make sure no Fury planet is top10 at the end of the round...
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Originally posted by Hardin
If WP/Ely/Rah/NoS (or whoever) think they have a good chance of winning the round themselves and decide to bash Titans/LDK to achieve this objective then fairplay to them.
If however they are manipulated into attacking Titans/LDK simply as a spoiler to stop them making #1 - then that wud be sad...especially considering the treatment they have had at the hands of Fury in previous rounds.
So if you are a HC of an alliance considering joining the 'Stop Titans/LDK' campaign that has been initiated by Fury then think again. There is still four weeks to go in this round and plenty of time for you to improve the standing of your own alliance without doing Fury's dirty work...
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First of all, you should not use RaH in your example. The only way they made their way into this conversation at all was by people commending them for NOT joining in any sort of block-effort.
As for your "manipulated" idea . . . you do a great disservice to the HC's of the alliances mentioned by implying that they would be playing for something other than #1...but even if they are, I find it comical that you think they should prefer Titans/LDK winning to Fury winning. Ely and WP have been mistreated by Titans/LDK as surely as they have ever been mistreated by Fury. Ely was founded as an anti-Fury alliance, but it's not like Fury ever backstabbed them. The closest you can even consider is r5, in which the relations between the two were cool all along. Fury dropping Ely wasn't the backstab. Legion dropping Ely was. And as much as Titans say they felt bad for Ely, it's not as if they did anything to stop it. Even after Titans broke from Legion, over this issue, and others, they went crawling back to Legion for r6-7. So why should Ely prefer a Titans victory?
Now how about WP? Afaik, WP never really felt betrayed by Fury, even after the end of r5, because unlike Legion and Ely, Fury didn't really betray WP. They maintained their relations, even if the relationship became much more complicated. In r6, WP performed well agaisnt Fury, not to mention their block-associates, TITANS. In a round in which they were beaten by Fury, like say, r7, guess who was on Fury's side? Titans, at least until towards the end.
So finally, your little bit about improving standing without doing Fury's dirty work.....apparently you still subscribe to the theory that if Titans/LDK disappeared right now, that Fury would win the round. From what I hear, that's far from correct, and I wonder how long you will be able to keep people thinking that it IS correct.
I'll revise ALL of my statements here if you can give me ONE good reason why WP/Ely/or anyone else should prefer a Titans/LDK victory in r8 to a Fury one.
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25 Nov 2002, 19:34
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Semper Facundus
Join Date: Jul 2000
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Originally posted by Hardin
Leto - I think this is underestimating the opposition that Titans/LDk already has. Fury certainly hasn't given up and they have been joined by strong elements of FAnG, Adelante and others...There is certainly no stagnation atm...but could be if everyone gangs up against Titans/LDK.
Just to reiterate: Posted by Scouse:
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We target people who are hostile to us, mostly Fury and Fang so far. To my knowledge there has not been an official raid from one of our BG's on a non-Fury/FAnG target for a long, long time.
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As Titans official targets are Fury/FAnG and they are intent on battling them then there is no real reason for other alliances to get involved. There are still lots of big Fury/FAnG targets in the Top 250 to keep Titans/LDK occupied.
If WP/Ely/Rah/NoS (or whoever) think they have a good chance of winning the round themselves and decide to bash Titans/LDK to achieve this objective then fairplay to them.
If however they are manipulated into attacking Titans/LDK simply as a spoiler to stop them making #1 - then that wud be sad...especially considering the treatment they have had at the hands of Fury in previous rounds.
So if you are a HC of an alliance considering joining the 'Stop Titans/LDK' campaign that has been initiated by Fury then think again. There is still four weeks to go in this round and plenty of time for you to improve the standing of your own alliance without doing Fury's dirty work...
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For me, I advocated against the arrangement. Nothing against the good folks in WP/Ely Auld, but combining hirr Cows and KoN with it makes it quite unwieldy and a bit of a headache when it comes to attacking defending.
I also did not advocate against hitting Titans/LDK for I think there are better targets in the universe such as ViruS that our battlegroups could have handled on our own. It would be an aside from the main fight, but we would still be waging a war against a good alliance and it might have been good fun on both sides.
I refuse to acknowledge any other fealty to FanG or Fury atm, as our agreements are with WP/Ely Auld, and no one else.
But you have to take a look into the fold and see that at this time, if you want to really measure things out:
Fury FanG NoS
WP/Ely/Auld
hirr/cows/KoN
Against Titans/LDK and ViruS is hardly fair. But fairness never enters into the minds of generals on the battlefield, they look to overpower their enemy whenever possible insteand of providing a fair fight to test one's honour....
.... and I think this is what is happening here... a last ditch attempt for Fury to topple the triumvirate of Titans/LDK/ViruS.
I certainly hope WP/Ely/Auld realize that FanG Fury NoS would be no better overlords than Titans / LDK would, and have contingencies to shift gears back if momentum changes... I know that is something I keep in mind for hirr.
Leto
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25 Nov 2002, 19:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Originally posted by Obfuscator
I'll revise ALL of my statements here if you can give me ONE good reason why WP/Ely/or anyone else should prefer a Titans/LDK victory in r8 to a Fury one.
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Titans have never backstabbed anybody in the middle of the round?
Fury has:
- R3: Legion at the end of it
- R5: No matter now you put it, Fury+VtS backstabbed Ely+WP in a very ugly way, considering their domination of the round...
- R7: Titans (more of a diplomatic backstabbing, the actual war was just the consequence) and Virus (plain and simple, dropping their oldest ally like that, oh my...)
Now I know some people consider that kind of ruthlessness as commendable, but at least I consider it reason enough to never allow them victory of another round, at any cost...
And then you blame Titans allying with Fury for R6, while saying Fury are so nice and fair. Isn't that kind of contradictory...?
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25 Nov 2002, 20:09
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Originally posted by Storebo
might be to late tho...
titans/ldk/dta/virus have manipulated pa universe to long...
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25 Nov 2002, 20:09
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Antediluvian
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: USA
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Originally posted by Urkki
Titans have never backstabbed anybody in the middle of the round?
Fury has:
- R3: Legion at the end of it
- R5: No matter now you put it, Fury+VtS backstabbed Ely+WP in a very ugly way, considering their domination of the round...
- R7: Titans (more of a diplomatic backstabbing, the actual war was just the consequence) and Virus (plain and simple, dropping their oldest ally like that, oh my...)
Now I know some people consider that kind of ruthlessness as commendable, but at least I consider it reason enough to never allow them victory of another round, at any cost...
And then you blame Titans allying with Fury for R6, while saying Fury are so nice and fair. Isn't that kind of contradictory...?
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That's a pretty poor reason, since in only one of your examples are the people being backstabbed by Fury actually the people in the alliances you are hoping to currently sway, and even in that ONE example, round 5, Ely and WP have little bitterness towards Fury, in my experience. As I argued, they should have just as much anger towards current Titans about r5 as they do to Fury.
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25 Nov 2002, 20:12
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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ely has loads of bitterness for fury and add the adelante thingie to that:P heh
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25 Nov 2002, 20:18
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Antediluvian
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Originally posted by cyphie
ely has loads of bitterness for fury and add the adelante thingie to that:P heh
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The bitterness they bear towards Fury is the bitterness they bear towards Furgion in general for stagnating and in general ruining PA for almost every round. Titans, being a part of Furgion both before and after it's split from Legion should be just as much a part of that bitterness as Fury.
As for adelante, let's not conflate anger with Storebo's jackassery with anger towards Fury.
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25 Nov 2002, 20:23
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Originally posted by ComradeRob
Titans/LDK are winning. If the round ended tomorrow, they would be declared 'winners'. But, then again, if round 6 had stopped a month earlier then Xeta would have been 'winners'. It's also arguable that if round 6 had ended 2 months earlier, FLVT would have been 'winners'.
None of this matters, only the end of round rankings
There's no point in pretending Titans/LDK aren't winning, only the most boneheaded of zealots would believe that. For the other alliances, what matters is preventing absolute Titans/LDK victory, because once that has happened, the competition (and therefore, for many, the only reason to keep playing) is over.
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Translation:
"We are manipulating the masses into believing Fury and Fang and Adelante got their assed kicked and LDK and Titans are the new and big evil. IT IS TRUE!! THERE IS NO DENYING! KILL THE EVIL FORCES!!"
Real agenda:
Try to set up WP and Ely against Titans and LDK, to use them as flak, making the war extremely unbalanced and in the favor of themselves, as ofc, something that can only be expected by the 'leet' politicians and manipulators that are FURY.
Fury, scum of the earth, copyright r1-r8
They pulled it off about every round now, and will TRY to do it again. Don't fall for it people.
LD
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25 Nov 2002, 20:24
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Originally posted by Duke Leto
For me, I advocated against the arrangement. Nothing against the good folks in WP/Ely Auld, but combining hirr Cows and KoN with it makes it quite unwieldy and a bit of a headache when it comes to attacking defending.
I also did not advocate against hitting Titans/LDK for I think there are better targets in the universe such as ViruS that our battlegroups could have handled on our own. It would be an aside from the main fight, but we would still be waging a war against a good alliance and it might have been good fun on both sides.
Leto
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beware of the lemmings who say Ni!, m0000h and hirr
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25 Nov 2002, 20:36
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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blah blah etc etc rant this flame that spin this sentance
scare monger that alliance
quite simple people who know whats going on work to do things for there alliance's advantages.
its what makes good HC.
you hit our planets we hit yours has been cow's policy all round and hasent changed. at one time 1 alliance gave us 70% of our incs one night so we hit them the next. nothings changed and were still haveing fun.
4 more weeks
thats it peeps
then all this will come to a close
and to other games we move i suppose
this anger this hate
will not be continueing to propriate
the time is here its in our grasp
to end this game in a final task
end the bitterness end the dislike
realise that we're all equall on this hike
this trip we went on to play this game
which has given many 'pa' fame
was fun to play and enjoyable to watch
joke about this laugh at that alliances botch
in the end we had fun
which in the addition of this game is the sum
in this last round I can say we had a good time
its somewhat annoying to see people use theese boards to whine
so in the end upon our success you can depend
that the community spirit we will mend
be it hirr acid or lost who wins the round
we all fought with out weight pound for pound
if you enjoyed getting no sleep
then prehaps you made a good sheep
but as long as you had fun to play
then in planetarion you enjoyed your stay
who ever wins at the last tick
it'll be an intersting political trick
good luck to all peon or hc
i wonder if you had has as much fun in pa as we (we is cows)
good luck in the ensueing 4 weeks of fun
-Sir AD.
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Originally posted by Lord_Dain
Translation:
"We are manipulating the masses into believing Fury and Fang and Adelante got their assed kicked and LDK and Titans are the new and big evil. IT IS TRUE!! THERE IS NO DENYING! KILL THE EVIL FORCES!!"
Real agenda:
Try to set up WP and Ely against Titans and LDK, to use them as flak, making the war extremely unbalanced and in the favor of themselves, as ofc, something that can only be expected by the 'leet' politicians and manipulators that are FURY.
Fury, scum of the earth, copyright r1-r8
They pulled it off about every round now, and will TRY to do it again. Don't fall for it people.
LD
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We pulled it off every round, thats funny. I can't remember Fury ever going for a PR rally to kill another alliance... but I can remember it happening to Fury alot. Actually almost every round has featured pr campaigns to set people up against Fury.
Now you are trying to convince us of things that can be disproven by anyone with any general knowledge of the games history. PLD
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25 Nov 2002, 23:02
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Down Boy - WOOF!
Join Date: May 2000
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originally posted by Hicks
Fury.
The day I'm asked to send any Fury fleets to defend a NoS member or on joint attacks with NoS members is the day I resign. It's quite interesting that Elysium have been included in your list if anything I was under the impression they retrenched to their old Anti Fury ethos. Then again I’m quite interested that anyone would take the “alleged” word of a Fury member as God’s honest truth.
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Im offended fs:P
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Quote:
Originally posted by sirad
good luck in the ensueing 4 weeks of fun
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