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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 20:59   #1
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The once a round good old fashioned 'biggest suicide on one planet' thread

100 million points lost by attackers on a certain Eclipse planet while the forums were down in the space of a few ticks.

Would anyone like to come forward for responsibility for this magnificent attack worthy of the suicide hall of fame!

Brilliant stuff!

Add extra contenders from r9 as they come in.
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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 21:03   #2
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If I bash my fleet in an asteroid field, does that exceed this?

I`m not 100 mill tho
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Apparently NoS flew into the brick wall, and WP took a couple of Rob's roids after having used their relationship quite amusingly. That's what I heard anyway.
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Apparently NoS flew into the brick wall, and WP took a couple of Rob's roids after having used their relationship quite amusingly. That's what I heard anyway.
So does the award go to NoS, WP or both so far?

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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 21:13   #5
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NoS launched the initial wave - it was a fun attack of the kind that really doesn't happen very often in PA any more. The initial waves were well-defended, and nos stuck admirably to their guns and landed in what was a pretty big battle.

What puzzles me is why WP launched several BGs at my planet after the initial nos wave - I didn't get any defence for myself and they capped about 1.2k roids, but considering the amount of ships eclipse had committed to defending my initial wave and other planets, they would have done far better by targetting several other galaxies than throwing massive overkill at one planet :\
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So does the award go to NoS, WP or both so far?

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I'd go for WP, for playing their mates like a pool shark in a 'speshal' school.

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Edit: this similie is not intended to contain any literal parallels; nobody would ever describe WP as pool sharks in anything other than jest.
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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 22:03   #7
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NoS launched the initial wave - it was a fun attack of the kind that really doesn't happen very often in PA any more. The initial waves were well-defended, and nos stuck admirably to their guns and landed in what was a pretty big battle.

What puzzles me is why WP launched several BGs at my planet after the initial nos wave - I didn't get any defence for myself and they capped about 1.2k roids, but considering the amount of ships eclipse had committed to defending my initial wave and other planets, they would have done far better by targetting several other galaxies than throwing massive overkill at one planet :\
But wouldnt that require them to have atleast one BC who could think?
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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 22:13   #8
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What puzzles me is why WP launched several BGs at my planet after the initial nos wave - I didn't get any defence for myself and they capped about 1.2k roids, but considering the amount of ships eclipse had committed to defending my initial wave and other planets, they would have done far better by targetting several other galaxies than throwing massive overkill at one planet :\
WP have never been known for their smarts tho have they?
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WP have never been known for their smarts tho have they?
WP ideas are generally logic-based.... they just don'y always work out as planned. Happens to all alliances once in a while. Nobody can dispute the fact that WP is still one of the top three alliances militaristically.... which is still some mighty achievement.


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WP ideas are generally logic-based.... they just don'y always work out as planned. Happens to all alliances once in a while. Nobody can dispute the fact that WP is still one of the top three alliances militaristically.... which is still some mighty achievement.


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After some of the combat reports I've seen (on both offensive and defense ends) I wouldn't put them anywhere near the top 3.
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Unread 23 Apr 2003, 18:23   #11
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WP ideas are generally logic-based.... they just don'y always work out as planned. Happens to all alliances once in a while. Nobody can dispute the fact that WP is still one of the top three alliances militaristically.... which is still some mighty achievement.


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At this very moment

1 ) Eclipse
2 ) Dragons
3 ) Olympians


efficiency-wise.

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After some of the combat reports I've seen (on both offensive and defense ends) I wouldn't put them anywhere near the top 3.
The problem with WP defence is that they have a silly point system, much like that possesed by Xanadu in prior rounds. Although it's based on the logical idea of trying to improve participation in defence and offence - it actually leads to slightly downgraded defence of certain planets (those that have been in the alliance for a shorter period of time, say).

As for offences - I am a member of several WE-ET battlegroups. I have never had a problem with any of the WP organised attacks. Indeed, one yesterday that I took part in saw the second biggest owning of an Eclipse planet seen this week.






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At this very moment

1 ) Eclipse
2 ) Dragons
3 ) Olympians


efficiency-wise.

Dragons isn't MassRecruitPack

1) Eclipse
2) Ely/Dragons
3) WP


Olypians are getting easier and easier to hit. Although they may be well organised, they perform very poorly on the battlefield. Eclipse vary - but are generally good. Ely has improved significantly - very much on par with Dragons.



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1) Eclipse
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Olypians are getting easier and easier to hit. Although they may be well organised, they perform very poorly on the battlefield. Eclipse vary - but are generally good. Ely has improved significantly - very much on par with Dragons.



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Since it is becoming obvious that WE is losing this, altho they are not rolling over and dieing, I would like to see your defence performing in 2/3 weeks

TBH i would rather roid WP atm then Olympians.
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At this very moment

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The battle reports on 19:3 today seem to suggest otherwise
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The battle reports on 19:3 today seem to suggest otherwise
huge miscalc by them, but untill today they have been damned effective, shame they have napped 40:9.
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First wave was more than half NoS, but *plenty* of allies as well. Losses we're immense but the defenders didn't exactly get off easy either, the 6.5 mil score worth of defense ships that died when you ran your fleet Rob are worth mentioning.

There had to be a defense soaking 'flak wave', no question. I'm damn proud to have lost my fleet while retaliating for one of my friends(as oppossed to all the times I usually oversleep and lose it, heh).

The following waves came as a shock to everyone I think. Wasn't soley WP attacking, though they we're predominant afaik. NoS and others we're in on those waves as well. 1 Rob roid is worth 100 common roids imo.

Above all it was a sure sign that Eclipse is not bulletproof(I didn't they they we're, but many people seem to think so, or used to think so anyways). No matter what the charts and graphs say, it rallied more spirits than you'd wanna believe. And if you looked closely at this attack and it's aftermath compared to the Fury/Fang attack on La Kethcup last round, you'd probably agree this attack went better. I don't remember La Kathcup losing his roids.....*ho hum*....

I'm still shocked the negotion offers we're responded with muscle flexes. I've always thought Rob, like many other players, longs for a few tastes of "what PA used to be like" to come back into style. "What PA used to be like" is different for everyone I guess....but I always thought it was about finding ways to make the pen mightier than the sword. This game has always been "mediocre" at best, but the alliance politics and community made it an outstanding game.
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1 Rob roid is worth 100 common roids imo.
120k 'worth' of roids would explain why anyone thought it was a successful attack
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120k 'worth' of roids would explain why anyone thought it was a successful attack
I actually paid 195k per roid on the first wave, 0k per roid on next waves. All in all it probably did wind up closer to 100k for all roids from all waves.

But their still Rob roids. I'll fight to the death anyone who tries to steal my Rob roids from me
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1) Eclipse
2) Ely/Dragons
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Olypians are getting easier and easier to hit. Although they may be well organised, they perform very poorly on the battlefield. Eclipse vary - but are generally good. Ely has improved significantly - very much on par with Dragons.



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give me three attacks landed on oly planets where you came off better in the last 3 days and MAYBE anyone would believe you.

I'd certainly make a thread admitting it.

I don't do all the Oly def, that's for sure, but i've never not covered a planet in this last week, nor have I seen any of the other BCs report such a phenomenon.

so, put your money where your mouth is paine, or stop talking ****.

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After some of the combat reports I've seen (on both offensive and defense ends) I wouldn't put them anywhere near the top 3.
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1) Eclipse
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Olypians are getting easier and easier to hit. Although they may be well organised, they perform very poorly on the battlefield. Eclipse vary - but are generally good. Ely has improved significantly - very much on par with Dragons.



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As far as I remember we weren't able cover 1, just 1, defence call last days.....but I'm sure u r well informed

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As far as I remember we weren't able to cover 1 defence call last days.....but I'm sure u r well informed
I assume you're WP?

I suggest you switch battlegroups




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First wave was more than half NoS, but *plenty* of allies as well. Losses we're immense but the defenders didn't exactly get off easy either, the 6.5 mil score worth of defense ships that died when you ran your fleet Rob are worth mentioning.
I 'ran' at the same time as the defence was ordered to recall. Not everyone pulled on time, but it's not as if I was avoiding combat (having lost 2mil on the previous tick, the 7th tick that my fleet had faced in the battle).

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There had to be a defense soaking 'flak wave', no question. I'm damn proud to have lost my fleet while retaliating for one of my friends(as oppossed to all the times I usually oversleep and lose it, heh).

The following waves came as a shock to everyone I think. Wasn't soley WP attacking, though they we're predominant afaik. NoS and others we're in on those waves as well. 1 Rob roid is worth 100 common roids imo.
I'm truely flattered

I kinda expected the later waves - some nos, some WP and a significant number of piggybackers. The roids I lost to those were no big issue for me, we fought a good battle against the original wave and defending the later ones would have been foolish - we could have done so, but the ships were better used keeping the rest of Eclipse safe (there is a war on, after all, and my planet isn't worth risking the alliance for).

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Above all it was a sure sign that Eclipse is not bulletproof(I didn't they they we're, but many people seem to think so, or used to think so anyways). No matter what the charts and graphs say, it rallied more spirits than you'd wanna believe. And if you looked closely at this attack and it's aftermath compared to the Fury/Fang attack on La Kethcup last round, you'd probably agree this attack went better. I don't remember La Kathcup losing his roids.....*ho hum*....

I'm still shocked the negotion offers we're responded with muscle flexes. I've always thought Rob, like many other players, longs for a few tastes of "what PA used to be like" to come back into style. "What PA used to be like" is different for everyone I guess....but I always thought it was about finding ways to make the pen mightier than the sword. This game has always been "mediocre" at best, but the alliance politics and community made it an outstanding game.
Well... I found the battle to be entertaining. It's something to remember from this round, anyway . I'm sure we could have negotiated a deal and avoided the whole thing, and I daresay that both sides would be better off right now if we had, but it's only a game and not real life, and the attack was certainly a fun part of the game.
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hehe this makes me laugh about storebo last round when he got who is attackers and who are the defenders mixed up.
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I kinda expected the later waves - some nos, some WP and a significant number of piggybackers
Piggybackers my arse. I was there in the first wave as were a significant number of other VGN peeps, set me back 3 days growth
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I was up till 4 am my time last night BCing, thats 11:00PA time. During my 5hours of BCing we only managed NOT TO COVER 1 planet out of the 10 or so that reported incomings. Thats right only 1 planet, so before you post some info maybe verify that.

Also I can assure you that in the last few days Olympians has been doing quite good on defence and we have been roiding like mad since we have been deprived of our precccccccciousssssss roids for too long.

Now I admit early in the round, back during the 1st 2 wars, our defence wasnt great and non-existant in some case, but we got our 2nd wind now and are back with a vengance. If you would like to see Olympians in action please submit your coordinates to a Oly BC so that we may show you our collection of ships.
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After some of the combat reports I've seen (on both offensive and defense ends) I wouldn't put them anywhere near the top 3.
no.. but then again you are so 1337 Cochese..
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Afaik the main attack in question here wasnt really launched with teh intention of being successful, it could rather be classified as a wannabe lemmingrun.
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Afaik the main attack in question here wasnt really launched with teh intention of being successful, it could rather be classified as a wannabe lemmingrun.
Ticks 1, 2, and (afaik) 3 were calced (badly as it turned out) so I wouldn't really call it a lemming run.
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Ticks 1, 2, and (afaik) 3 were calced (badly as it turned out) so I wouldn't really call it a lemming run.

Calced yes, but were the intentions to bother with recall if owned?
I heard something else you see...
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Calced yes, but were the intentions to bother with recall if owned?
I heard something else you see...
Ah, I hadn't heard that bit. We ran for home somewhere around tick 4 I believe. Can't say I wasn't relieved to get out of there but it was a one stays, everyone stays thing (for VGN at least).
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Olypians are getting easier and easier to hit. Although they may be well organised, they perform very poorly on the battlefield. Eclipse vary - but are generally good. Ely has improved significantly - very much on par with Dragons.



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hate to tell you this m8y, but how exactly are oly becoming 'easier' to hit.. since the fact there much smaller after getting bashed to a bloody pulp earlier in the round..

they're doing fleet catches and raids on targets of oppourtunities, and i'd imagine they're pretty easy to hit because 1: you've got like 5 times the members of them 2: you're allied to ely, they're unallied now 3: they don't give a crap about their roids 4: they're kinda concentrating on attacking, whats the point in defending a planet with 200 odd roids that can just be reinited..
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hehe this makes me laugh about storebo last round when he got who is attackers and who are the defenders mixed up.
Wasn't that R7 after Adelante died and he moved to Fury? Or does he do this kind of thing a lot?
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WP and efficient?

indeed ... I still remember when they sent 20k vsharrak fighter to defend against my 6k terra destroyers ...
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Wasn't that R7 after Adelante died and he moved to Fury? Or does he do this kind of thing a lot?
Adelante alliance was round 8.. And something wrong in joining Fury when i shut down Adelante. Fury was the most effective alliance I've been in. The officers/bc's all did their job, and they did it well.
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Adelante alliance was round 8.. And something wrong in joining Fury when i shut down Adelante. Fury was the most effective alliance I've been in. The officers/bc's all did their job, and they did it well.
Does that include the la ketchup attack?
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Well... I found the battle to be entertaining. It's something to remember from this round, anyway . I'm sure we could have negotiated a deal and avoided the whole thing, and I daresay that both sides would be better off right now if we had, but it's only a game and not real life, and the attack was certainly a fun part of the game.
damn skippy. I thought everyone had a lot of fun on both sides as well. Maybe not...hmmm....


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Adelante alliance was round 8..
Sorry, I found Adelante instantly forgettable.

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And something wrong in joining Fury when i shut down Adelante. Fury was the most effective alliance I've been in. The officers/bc's all did their job, and they did it well.
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Does that include the la ketchup attack?
And the girlee defence?
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And the girlee defence?
damn you Scouse, this is turning into another "Storebo commedy"..
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