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Unread 12 Apr 2003, 18:02   #1
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I hate Titles

I do hate titles but anyway.

The position WEET is in is one that is tough to define. However we have to take into account that it is not their fault directly that VOM collapsed that is VOM's fault nor is it their fault NAR has gone into VACATION so their targets are thin to nothing so lets clear up a few things about parts of weet that suck and parts of weet that are being blamed from their past which is crap.

#1: There are Cheaters and Farmers in every alliance however there is a difference in WEET about this.

A: Eclipse if shown proof will kick and roid that guy to nothing as they do not wanna be associated with anyone cheating. You must understand cause something looks like farming even if you know its farming if you show no direct proof then whatever ya say is not valid.

B: Wp is a different case but their command is odd some turn their heads and some do it directly but they will not kick or roid anyone unless really pressured to and thats a big "if" however lots keep mixing up the make-up of WP itself along with Dragons.

C: the rest of weet as far as cheating goes hehe well they got members that do it to how come they are not as highly discussed as the others in weet?

All the said above goes for farming as well

Point #2 is Bashing and although its pretty lame lets look at a couple of things.

#1: Look at the freaking targets for them they have hardly any and they are paying customers so why do they have to back off?

A: I myself hate it when a 10 mil and a 6 mil together attack me <although they got whooped and failed> its still probably due to them not having a decent target.

B: there are wusses out there make no mistake however I have gotten a few recalled when I showed certain command members the 3 fleet usage etc and they thought it was wank to.

<note this was before NAR entered vacation>

#2: with Nar in vacation and vom being the only real targets left along with noobs or lesser alliances they have little or no choice but to invade those people. yes it might be bashing but just cause they are doing well does not mean they have to stop to let others catch up.

<I would not bash but I would definatly Keep my enemy down and demoralized>

#3: People trying to force WEET to fight but then complain when that plan fails. This is not WEETS fault people entered vacation or try to get them to fight so kinda yelling at them for not doing what you want them to is crap.

<I wish they would fight to but the point is WHY must they?>


Point 3 is the past factor reputations

#1: Eclipse does NOT = FURY

<Just like the people who came from Legion and Fury to form Titans in r6 were not called Furgion>

Cut eclipse some slack they did have a plan im sure but my god VOM collapsed itself so that helped them , their coalition started to pay off and politically they are doing well. This all was made on a GAMBLE and the ***** factor which they didn't expect but HOPED would pay off in their favor and DID!

I think Eclipse should be allowed to shred their FURY and be judged soley on Eclipse.

Eclipse is not here for our plessure nor our bidding but turn into them proof of cheating members and they will take care of it.


This round would have rocked had this happened.

1: the farmers when originally turned in to the proper people WITH bloody proof would have deleted the 3-4 people I turned in <with proof> as well as others who had turned in naughty peeps.

2: VOM stuck to the plan the war would have been ace instead "I FRICKING TOLD YOU SO"

3: Weet/Nar not formed a coalition "still tough to bash cause if VOM had not collapsed im not so sure it would have been ace still" Tough call to be honest

4: :e_bunny: never should have been added to the forums.


The same thing happens every round this one is nothing different only a smaller universe.
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Unread 12 Apr 2003, 18:36   #2
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Re: I hate Titles

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just like to point out, that your not entirely correct in point #1,
not all alliances cheat, but a lot of em... hell, two lots of em do.

and bashing is lame, no justification for it.
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just like to point out, that your not entirely correct in point #1,
not all alliances cheat, but a lot of em... hell, two lots of em do.

and bashing is lame, no justification for it.
Bashing has happened upon every losing alliance in the game. I dont see what is so different now. Its nothing new. I surely hope you dont think there should be a limit higher than 20%.
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Unread 13 Apr 2003, 02:38   #5
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Argh! A balanced post from a leading member of a losing alliance in Planetarion. ON AD. I'm stunned!

It's good to see that all hope's not lost for PA. Thanks Axis.

Edit: It is a really crappy title though
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Re: Re: Re: I hate Titles

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Bashing has happened upon every losing alliance in the game. I dont see what is so different now. Its nothing new. I surely hope you dont think there should be a limit higher than 20%.
no, but i do think there should be an action that prompts the in game message:

"Your fleet commanders refuse to launch at a planet with such excess development when compared to yours".

if we cant launch at them, they shouldnt be able to launch at us - (dont think this shouldn be the inverse of 20% tho)
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Re: I hate Titles

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I do hate titles but anyway.

The position WEET is in is one that is tough to define. However we have to take into account that it is not their fault directly that VOM collapsed that is VOM's fault nor is it their fault NAR has gone into VACATION so their targets are thin to nothing so lets clear up a few things about parts of weet that suck and parts of weet that are being blamed from their past which is crap.

#1: There are Cheaters and Farmers in every alliance however there is a difference in WEET about this.

A: Eclipse if shown proof will kick and roid that guy to nothing as they do not wanna be associated with anyone cheating. You must understand cause something looks like farming even if you know its farming if you show no direct proof then whatever ya say is not valid.

B: Wp is a different case but their command is odd some turn their heads and some do it directly but they will not kick or roid anyone unless really pressured to and thats a big "if" however lots keep mixing up the make-up of WP itself along with Dragons.

C: the rest of weet as far as cheating goes hehe well they got members that do it to how come they are not as highly discussed as the others in weet?
Thats something I will grant Eclipse. They deal with cheaters swiftly and decisevly, unlike Wolfpack who's own HC would be hypocrites to kick members for cheating or Elysium who's HC abuse their positions of power for their own benefit. No-one ever mentions nor seems to care about ToT, not really sure why this is tho.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I hate Titles

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no, but i do think there should be an action that prompts the in game message:

"Your fleet commanders refuse to launch at a planet with such excess development when compared to yours".

if we cant launch at them, they shouldnt be able to launch at us - (dont think this shouldn be the inverse of 20% tho)
The reason there isn't an inverse limit was supposedly to grant the 'little' people a chance to take down larger planets.
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just like to point out, that your not entirely correct in point #1,
not all alliances cheat, but a lot of em... hell, two lots of em do.

and bashing is lame, no justification for it.
All allainces contain cheaters of some level. The larger the alliance, the more cheaters (duh) its possible that some very small allaince has 0 cheaters, but thats not really the point.
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Bashing has happened upon every losing alliance in the game. I dont see what is so different now. Its nothing new. I surely hope you dont think there should be a limit higher than 20%.

ït would certainly be interesting would allow for some more threads in the strat forum atleast
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Bashing has happened upon every losing alliance in the game. I dont see what is so different now. Its nothing new. I surely hope you dont think there should be a limit higher than 20%.
Surely they must 1 or 2 targets in the 30% range you might consider worth a hit.
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Re: I hate Titles

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[i]I have no idea what i'm chatting about, it doesn't matter so long as it pleases the guy who i'm in bed with - ah how reassuring that life is simple :/

A: Eclipse if shown proof will kick and roid that guy to nothing as they do not wanna be associated with anyone cheating. You must understand cause something looks like farming even if you know its farming if you show no direct proof then whatever ya say is not valid.

Now listen you little retarded fk, i'm going to say this once, and only once.

When you say "fact" your not supposed to spout your own opinion. Eclipse, just like any other alliance is infested with cheaters, more importatnly if one of their top 10 planets got accused of farming, they'd defend him, until closed. Yet nos was flamed by eclipse for having members of my gal in there, despite no proof of us cheating, and more importantly no closure.

Eclipse, are not whiter than white, their human, their looking out for thier own interests so please do not try and make them out to be, just because their "your mates".

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Argh! A balanced post from a leading member of a losing alliance in Planetarion. ON AD. I'm stunned!

It's good to see that all hope's not lost for PA. Thanks Axis.

Edit: It is a really crappy title though
erm. hes not leading member, more like the most idle BC on irc hehe
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Now listen you little retarded fk, i'm going to say this once, and only once.

When you say "fact" your not supposed to spout your own opinion. Eclipse, just like any other alliance is infested with cheaters, more importatnly if one of their top 10 planets got accused of farming, they'd defend him, until closed. Yet nos was flamed by eclipse for having members of my gal in there, despite no proof of us cheating, and more importantly no closure.

Eclipse, are not whiter than white, their human, their looking out for thier own interests so please do not try and make them out to be, just because their "your mates".

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Starting with an insult makes you look marture doesnt it necro ?

Axis_WLF an eclipse friend ? ROFLMAO

Infact we unlike other alliances kicked cheaters and that before officials did work on it. And infact one of those planets was in top15 the time he was kicked. (he isnt anymore)
Im not sure if he was closed for it or not, because it doesnt matter for me, as eclipse chanceled all relations with this planet/player.
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If your being Honest Focht then i take back what i said and give u guys the credit you deserve then. Its believing your being honest that i have a hard time with... I'd love to be shown i'm just being arrogant.

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Bashing has happened upon every losing alliance in the game. I dont see what is so different now. Its nothing new. I surely hope you dont think there should be a limit higher than 20%.
I actually would like to see it raised to a 30%. I just think that a guy attacking someone 1/5 his size is a twat.

Ofc that doesn't solve the problem of being attacked by 5 guys 4x bigger than you .
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This round would have rocked had this happened.

4: :e_bunny: never should have been added to the forums.
LOLOLOLOL

The single best thing ive ever read here haahahahahahhahha
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Axis_WLF an eclipse friend ? ROFLMAO
Well I guess he thought he had enough friends in Eclipse, because he applied to Eclipse begin round
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Well I guess he thought he had enough friends in Eclipse, because he applied to Eclipse begin round
im afraid you are wrong here, he was never in a 2nd level recruiting level (btw killmark and 48:4 applied aswell tho i wouldnt rate them as eclipse friends )
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im afraid you are wrong here, he was never in a 2nd level recruiting level (btw killmark and 48:4 applied aswell tho i wouldnt rate them as eclipse friends )
Didn't u and killmark run an alliance together in SS ?

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Well I guess he thought he had enough friends in Eclipse, because he applied to Eclipse begin round

Umm NO I did not!
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Didn't u and killmark run an alliance together in SS ?

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Umm NO I did not!
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Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Now listen you little retarded fk, i'm going to say this once, and only once.

When you say "fact" your not supposed to spout your own opinion. Eclipse, just like any other alliance is infested with cheaters, more importatnly if one of their top 10 planets got accused of farming, they'd defend him, until closed. Yet nos was flamed by eclipse for having members of my gal in there, despite no proof of us cheating, and more importantly no closure.

Eclipse, are not whiter than white, their human, their looking out for thier own interests so please do not try and make them out to be, just because their "your mates".

-Necro
Calm your nuts fido, I never said Eclipse was holy and never cheated. I did say every alliance has cheaters/farmers but Eclipse if you show them proof of their members wrong doing they will in fact do something about it because unlike some they care about their member base and the image of allowing a proven cheat to remain.

and to you I also say this.... :e_bunny:
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Unread 13 Apr 2003, 18:09   #29
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I did it to
a) support my own statement
b) to reply to necros accusation, i never played SS so its doubtfull i was in an alliance with KM, not even going into my personal dislike for him here



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Unread 13 Apr 2003, 19:30   #30
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What the hell was Obsidian Order?

:e_bunny: fking owns u, but has seen far to much abuse on these forums ;/
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Unread 16 Apr 2003, 13:52   #32
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This round would have rocked had this happened.

1: the farmers when originally turned in to the proper people WITH bloody proof would have deleted the 3-4 people I turned in <with proof> as well as others who had turned in naughty peeps.

2: VOM stuck to the plan the war would have been ace instead "I FRICKING TOLD YOU SO"

3: Weet/Nar not formed a coalition "still tough to bash cause if VOM had not collapsed im not so sure it would have been ace still" Tough call to be honest

4: :e_bunny: never should have been added to the forums.


The same thing happens every round this one is nothing different only a smaller universe.
#1 You seem to totally miss the amount of cheating involved. Several hundreds of planets need to be removed from play really. There is no way in the world there is some many 'old friends/relative' playing the round as support planet 5 or 6 gals alone that I know of who seem totally dedicated in sending def for their m8s without ever sending pods along. The support planets alone are bigger than several smaller alliances. This just means there is very serious multying and accountsharing going on. I'm not sure if anybody is closed for that unless he does it quite stupidly.

#2 what ever VOM's plan was they were vastly outnumbered. Weet managed to cover a few few hundred non VOM planets every single night as well so they weren't even stretched a bit.

#3 Well, the round would certyainly have been better if weet had not allied nar which was one of the most stupid political moves I have even seen in PA history but clearly vom should not have existed either.

#4 Blame the ****ing :e_chick:

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Unread 16 Apr 2003, 18:59   #33
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What the hell was Obsidian Order?

It was lead by Morden, and Killmark was a Executive.

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