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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 04:27   #1
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ChaRmeD

The new alliance charmed seems very n00bish to me (not trying to flame at all).

I think that b4 any of you new peepels even start to think about creating alliances, you need to get a good structure and bloody good intel, as today, i was searching through alliances, found Charmed, and within 2 minutes i was recruited all b'cos i said i was a top40 player.

Word of Warning to all ppl out there that are creating alliances, dont build ure memberbase until you have got good intel, and HC's that are not scared to speak, when talking to someone always saying thank you hun, etc...

Again im not flaming, jus concerned that new alliances neva get off the ground, cos they dont have the proper intel.

Anyways enough of my cr4p, Have a good round, and see you in the starfields (battle Fields)

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 04:40   #2
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1 question, why in all the hell did you try to sign up with them in the first place?? If it is for spying then what is the point??

Spying has a tendency towards destroying this game, these people are trying to do something positive with their time in this game, eventually people who join up to do what you are doing will be removed, simple as that..

Not to mention that you make this thread and you were never accepted into charmed.. instead using information given to you by a friend..
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i am jus warning all new alliances out there, look for the clause in youre intel.!!
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 09:32   #4
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Re: ChaRmeD

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The new alliance charmed seems very n00bish to me (not trying to flame at all).

I think that b4 any of you new peepels even start to think about creating alliances, you need to get a good structure and bloody good intel, as today, i was searching through alliances, found Charmed, and within 2 minutes i was recruited all b'cos i said i was a top40 player.

Word of Warning to all ppl out there that are creating alliances, dont build ure memberbase until you have got good intel, and HC's that are not scared to speak, when talking to someone always saying thank you hun, etc...

Again im not flaming, jus concerned that new alliances neva get off the ground, cos they dont have the proper intel.

Anyways enough of my cr4p, Have a good round, and see you in the starfields (battle Fields)

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Haven't heared about charmed but are they

a: new players starting an alliance
b: players who played 2-3 rounds and wanna have a shot at it themselves?
c: experienced players

In "C" they will do fine I'm sure and for "A" and "B", guess that's the way everyone in this game learned it, some at early rounds others now.

I think it's good that they try and I REALLY would like to see them succeed but like aceman said (and a little advice never hurts anyone) intell is pretty important and don't just recruit pple cause they were a top planet once

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 09:46   #5
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 11:02   #6
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Alliance intel co-incides with their integrety. If alliance intel = ****e then the state of that alliance will be on the rocks.

I have heard of Charmed, but i havent had any experiance with them so i wouldnt like to comment, what i will say is, any alliance that doesnt have any foundations of the following in their recruitment system...
1. Background Check
2. Former Alliance Check
3. Cross checking
4. Verifying what the recruit says is true
5. Vouch/vote system

Is more than probably an un-stable alliance which is full of leaks/etc... dont quote me on this tho, this is from my experiance, but the above can help 100% to stabilise an alliance.

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 11:41   #7
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Whatever happened to the custom of wishing a starting alliance good luck and not slagging them off until they become arrogant twats like fang?
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 11:46   #8
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 11:47   #9
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Whatever happened to the custom of wishing a starting alliance good luck and not slagging them off until they become arrogant twats like fang?
here we go again, do you ever contribute something new? let's say the FAnG'ers are as arrogant as any ex legion "god". I mean, we had to learn it from somebody.

becides for a bunch of arrogant (according to teletubbie) noobs (according to parracida) we didn't do bad at all during those 2 rounds we existed (up to the point when FAnG fell appart). Infact we did better then most alliances and we did better then anyone gave us credit for or better then anyone wishes we did.

rgds Kj, speaking as an ex FAnG HC
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 11:55   #10
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here we go again, do you ever contribute something new? let's say the FAnG'ers are as arrogant as any ex legion "god". I mean, we had to learn it from somebody.

becides for a bunch of arrogant (according to teletubbie) noobs (according to parracida) we didn't do bad at all during those 2 rounds we existed (up to the point when FAnG fell appart). Infact we did better then most alliances and we did better then anyone gave us credit for or better then anyone wishes we did.

rgds Kj, speaking as an ex FAnG HC
Kj m8 i agree with you, but you have to admit FAnG have a 'big head' for a use of less words, and you have a right to, occasionaly.

You have worked with Fury in your first round as an alliance (I think). What alliances could boast that?

You have never bean totaly twated in a round (round 9 may be differant who knows).

But the 'I love FAnG' thread did push the PA community over the edge lol.

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 12:06   #11
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Kj m8 i agree with you, but you have to admit FAnG have a 'big head' for a use of less words, and you have a right to, occasionaly.

You have worked with Fury in your first round as an alliance (I think). What alliances could boast that?

You have never bean totaly twated in a round (round 9 may be differant who knows).

But the 'I love FAnG' thread did push the PA community over the edge lol.

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yes, but any human with decent amount of brains would realize that the "proud to be fang" PR wasn't supported NOR accepted by the HC and command staff, infact there was a small bunch of pple who spammed AD with it, hardly 5% of FAnG.

about r9, I really do hope fang does well but it'll be beyond my will as I'm no longer a FAnGer

and yes, we had the luxury to work with Fury in r7, as they were the only alliance in FLTV who gave us thrust while big alliances like virus, legion and tits denied workin with the new guys.

and even without the Fury faith we got we would have done well, as we proved after entire FLTV turned on us (becides tits).

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 12:10   #12
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yes, but any human with decent amount of brains would realize that the "proud to be fang" PR wasn't supported NOR accepted by the HC and command staff, infact there was a small bunch of pple who spammed AD with it, hardly 5% of FAnG.

about r9, I really do hope fang does well but it'll be beyond my will as I'm no longer a FAnGer

and yes, we had the luxury to work with Fury in r7, as they were the only alliance in FLTV who gave us thrust while big alliances like virus, legion and tits denied workin with the new guys.

and even without the Fury faith we got we would have done well, as we proved after entire FLTV turned on us (becides tits).

rgds Kj
I still reserve the right to slag FAnG off when i like tho

Anyway, good luck Kj + FanG in RL + on PA.

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 12:57   #13
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no thread can go by without flameing/KJ going off on one.

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 13:03   #14
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no thread can go by without flameing/KJ going off on one.



Thank you
Hehehe, Kj does manage to bitch alot... i think hes 'on'

Anyway, l8ers

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Kj, please dont hurt me because i told people 'the truth' about you

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Re: ChaRmeD

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ever thought about the fact that there are people who don't take this game that serious than u do?

leave them allone and don't think u are such uber1337
they will make their way without somebody bitching at them (or not)

good luck to everybody who starts a new ally etc :P
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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 13:39   #19
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You tell him !!!

/me has given up being evil on the boards, its just pathetic now.

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hehe never thought id see this day
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hehe that was just a general comment for some of the nice replys to this thread
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hehe that was just a general comment for some of the nice replys to this thread
Ohh... ok.
/me goes back to feeding poor starving Fangers who havent been fed for over 3 months and have herpes, which was contracted from Kjeldoran.

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mmm, so I have to agree wih davidb and yes aneu I bitch alot but

that I like so that won't be changed but I did not give some infectious desease to the FAnGers, it was hinch (CLEARLY)

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Unread 6 Jan 2003, 17:16   #25
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as betrayer said it's not everyone who play this game to win.

Some players actually play it for fun. :eek:

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Aceshot i dont see your point here.
What happend to giving people a change to join an alliance and prove themself? Everybody deserves a fresh start.
If they are no good for the alliance that will be notist fast enough when the round starts.

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Whatever happened to the custom of wishing a starting alliance good luck and not slagging them off until they become arrogant twats like fang?
Kids these days have no patience

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The new alliance charmed seems very n00bish to me (not trying to flame at all).

I think that b4 any of you new peepels even start to think about creating alliances, you need to get a good structure and bloody good intel, as today, i was searching through alliances, found Charmed, and within 2 minutes i was recruited all b'cos i said i was a top40 player.

Word of Warning to all ppl out there that are creating alliances, dont build ure memberbase until you have got good intel, and HC's that are not scared to speak, when talking to someone always saying thank you hun, etc...

Again im not flaming, jus concerned that new alliances neva get off the ground, cos they dont have the proper intel.

Anyways enough of my cr4p, Have a good round, and see you in the starfields (battle Fields)

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Well Aceshot I think your a kid. An alliance that starts out needs members. We choice for mass recruiting. Ofcourse we know we would get kids in like you. But do you really think that we would noy check our members before the round starts? WTF we need an intel for? Wanna find out what my coords are? Wanna copy everything of the forums we said posted since round 1? I don't get your ****ing point you only brought people to our channel with your very proffesional intel action.


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new alliances

in my experience a new alliance is always nice to start, but it damands many time. Another thing is people bitching around and telling you what you are doing wrong and what should be different. Therefore I will not do this but I will tell me my opinion and experience.

Tbh I also think it is best to go for structure and good recruiting. Many people prefer mass recruiting though, of course you will get many spies inside, which noone likes, but why do those spies enter your alliance. Only because they think the alliance will work, so all you have to do is to keep many info secret and do not give to many out to the members. And a good spy can enter every alliance, with mass recruiting it is just easier.


All I can say is that I wish charmed good luck, I think they have some nice people involved so I hope they will do fine.
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For a good alliance you need:

1) Good HC's with plenty of experience and motivation,
2) Good officers with plenty of experience and whom will obey orders and still think for themselves.
3) A l33t name like ChaoZ.
4) Lots of nice friendly members.
5) Cows.
6) A vbulletin forum.
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For a good alliance you need:

1) Good HC's with plenty of experience and motivation,
2) Good officers with plenty of experience and whom will obey orders and still think for themselves.
3) A l33t name like ChaoZ.
4) Lots of nice friendly members.
5) Cows.
6) A vbulletin forum.
7) Determination.
can I add something, you also need a 1337 BC named piet_hein ))) whahahahaah
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For a good alliance you need:

1) Good HC's with plenty of experience and motivation,
2) Good officers with plenty of experience and whom will obey orders and still think for themselves.
3) A l33t name like ChaoZ.
4) Lots of nice friendly members.
5) Cows.
6) A vbulletin forum.
7) Determination.

I always thought an alliance with no name would be a good idea. Although I don't think there's enough people left with enough motivation to run an alliance the way I envisage it heh.
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can I add something, you also need a 1337 BC named piet_hein ))) whahahahaah
I shall call you l33t when you change your custom rank to 'ChaoZ' with a CAPITAL Z.

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with all the new upcoming alliances, some even with decent command staff, i think this will be a exiting round \o/
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heh

For a good alliance you need

1. The interest of playing the game

Everyone start sometime, and everyone learns as the rounds go on, everyone get more intel, and experience. And everyone make friends

No alliance rocks from the second its started(few atleast ^^)

After a round or two, most alliances gain experience and members gain dedicationm..New members approach as they get more "known"



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in my experience a new alliance is always nice to start, but it damands many time. Another thing is people bitching around and telling you what you are doing wrong and what should be different. Therefore I will not do this but I will tell me my opinion and experience.
soooo true

when we started FAnG, I had former Virus Hc (Irvine) telling me how to run an alliance etc. Nothing wrong with advice, but not the way he did it (as is showing he's superior and we should listen to his advice to survive)

I found that

a: not needed
b: certainly not welcome
c: even insulting

A new alliance should find its own way, they will learn it eventually, even if it has to be the hard way. But atleast they can later claim they didn't get manipulated into something they didn't wanna become.

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Re: Re: new alliances

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soooo true

when we started FAnG, I had former Virus Hc (Irvine) telling me how to run an alliance etc. Nothing wrong with advice, but not the way he did it (as is showing he's superior and we should listen to his advice to survive)

I found that

a: not needed
b: certainly not welcome
c: even insulting

A new alliance should find its own way, they will learn it eventually, even if it has to be the hard way. But atleast they can later claim they didn't get manipulated into something they didn't wanna become.

rgds Kj
Totaly agree, every alliance has a foundation that every alliance has, but alliances that are going to make somthing of themselfs grow from that foundation and add to it.

Alliances should never try to copy eachother, finding your own path makes an alliance stronger and closer which helps everyone overall.

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For a good alliance you need:

1) Good HC's with plenty of experience and motivation,
2) Good officers with plenty of experience and whom will obey orders and still think for themselves.
3) A l33t name like ChaoZ.
4) Lots of nice friendly members.
5) Cows.
6) A vbulletin forum.
7) Determination.
I dont really believe is the use of a Vbulliten forum, we did set one up in the start tho ( http://www.microbio.org/forums/ ) but later on Josh (our tech) recommanded us to use phpBB for a while and it seems to work better atm plus the fact that it is simple. our forum can be found here btw

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The person who has taught me the most about being an Alliance HC is Patrician, hes given me tonnes of good advice over the rounds

And once you start using the admin functions of vbulletin you do realise it is teh daddeh.
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We changed the admin part. It now has many more funtions that phpBB used to have, it is perfect for alliances the way we have it now.
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Charmed has some of the nicest people I've ever known on PA.
But then again, congeniality doesn't rank too high on the checklist for a successful alliance does it?

Oh well, best of luck to Charmed etc.
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Charmed has some of the nicest people I've ever known on PA.
But then again, congeniality doesn't rank too high on the checklist for a successful alliance does it?

Oh well, best of luck to Charmed etc.
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Re: Re: new alliances

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soooo true

when we started FAnG, I had former Virus Hc (Irvine) telling me how to run an alliance etc. Nothing wrong with advice, but not the way he did it (as is showing he's superior and we should listen to his advice to survive)

I found that

a: not needed
b: certainly not welcome
c: even insulting

A new alliance should find its own way, they will learn it eventually, even if it has to be the hard way. But atleast they can later claim they didn't get manipulated into something they didn't wanna become.

rgds Kj
lol that was a long time ago, i belive he was trying to be helpful, but yea the way he did it was all wrong.
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