Planetarion Forums - hi side swappers, defectors

Storebo · 21 Mar 2003, 01:44

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Originally posted by Scouse
Your eternal anti-Titans posts are boring me. Back them up please in the future.

Don't know the name but was told "we" had a spy in there..
Maybe I can ask for his name since it is a long time ago anyway..
Have to get back to u on that tho..

Furbie_Fanatic · 21 Mar 2003, 02:23

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Originally posted by cyphie

and suddenly people like xtothez and dreadnaught and zhil never talk on forums anymore i wonder why..... not

They were clearly having a threesome

Ahriman · 21 Mar 2003, 02:26

I appreciate Jester's perspective, but find myself in accordance with Lyrtas. They chose their side, just as I did. I wouldn't ever consider switching after beginning to walk my chosen path, and would gladly rape into the ground anyone attempting to save themselves by selling out their 'friends.'

It's just not right in my opinion.

aza1 · 21 Mar 2003, 02:54

This may sound a little bit out there as far as theories go.

But what if vvomm knew there people were defecting and are actually endorsing certain ppl over to weet/nar to act as sleeper cells until the wars alliance blocks undertake their expected shift.

Think about it, it would give vvomm a lot stronger position than they would otherwise have, and it would grab weet offguard as they would have overestimated thier own strength.

Treveler · 21 Mar 2003, 03:26

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Originally posted by aza1
This may sound a little bit out there as far as theories go.

But what if vvomm knew there people were defecting and are actually endorsing certain ppl over to weet/nar to act as sleeper cells until the wars alliance blocks undertake their expected shift.

Think about it, it would give vvomm a lot stronger position than they would otherwise have, and it would grab weet offguard as they would have overestimated thier own strength.

Now huush you fool!

mcnally · 21 Mar 2003, 03:29

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Originally posted by aza1
This may sound a little bit out there as far as theories go.

But what if vvomm knew there people were defecting and are actually endorsing certain ppl over to weet/nar to act as sleeper cells until the wars alliance blocks undertake their expected shift.

Think about it, it would give vvomm a lot stronger position than they would otherwise have, and it would grab weet offguard as they would have overestimated thier own strength.

minor mistake in the plan is that they are valid targets eh

TeK · 21 Mar 2003, 03:39

Go yeh!

Masterix · 21 Mar 2003, 04:40

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Originally posted by The_Fish
It'd be nice to see names of Alliances in one of these posts

names too

Desse · 21 Mar 2003, 07:02

Webangel is not a VOM HC anymore.

Tuhan · 21 Mar 2003, 07:03

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Originally posted by Recon
correct

teehee i helped these guys 'defect', sure killed off any chance of you guys gaining any advantage in c30

<----30:3:1

Inside the panties of Britney Spears

phw0ar

Sad to say, with or without 30:13 in R7, NewX did not have any advantages in C30, until near the end of the round when the rest of FLTTV gals gone quiet or inactive.

cypher · 21 Mar 2003, 08:38

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Originally posted by aza1
This may sound a little bit out there as far as theories go.

But what if vvomm knew there people were defecting and are actually endorsing certain ppl over to weet/nar to act as sleeper cells until the wars alliance blocks undertake their expected shift.

Think about it, it would give vvomm a lot stronger position than they would otherwise have, and it would grab weet offguard as they would have overestimated thier own strength.

if i ever heard anything of oly doing that and being a bit backed up with the truth i know for a fact half the members would leave. these lame tactics might be good for other alliances...not for oly.

mazzelaar · 21 Mar 2003, 09:13

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Originally posted by mens
as for defectors, I have half of 30:13 r7 in mind.
mazze, Longy etc. evil evil. buuuuh buuuuuh.

3 members - the rest also ended up attacking me from in gal -so I guess I got my just desserts

And it had nothing to do with losing, we were doing pretty well at the time. It was more a case of being sick of my alliance at the time.

I'm not justifying myself but all is not quite as it seems. I happily took my beating with fury in rnd 8 as I was amongst friends.

And let's not get into mudslinging about C30 eh - we both know what went on in that WP HC gal

mazzelaar · 21 Mar 2003, 09:14

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Originally posted by Recon
correct

sure killed off any chance of you guys gaining any advantage in c30

multiple FLVT gals and 2 NEWX - I hardly think so

Galadrieth · 21 Mar 2003, 10:54

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Originally posted by cyphie
pfffffft we know you're running this all from behind the scenes just admit it:P

if hearts had protection tho why did we get attacked so much?
necrokilling is fun tho:P

To both cypher and Scouse, the position of the person in question was admitedly wrong, but the acusation was correct, a high status person whom i shall not name, was relaying info on all he knew about FLTTV to a Silver BC, dont question my umpteen logs that i have of that.
Oh and believe me cypher i know about the incommings, and dont kid youself about the necrokillings...it was never ever your gal attacking in cluster, but allways mine. We died trying to save make a difference, whilst you lot wanted to hold on to a useless NAP

Ill speak to the Silver BC in question anyways, see if he wants to shed some more light on that for you

cypher · 21 Mar 2003, 11:15

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Originally posted by Galadrieth
To both cypher and Scouse, the position of the person in question was admitedly wrong, but the acusation was correct, a high status person whom i shall not name, was relaying info on all he knew about FLTTV to a Silver BC, dont question my umpteen logs that i have of that.
Oh and believe me cypher i know about the incommings, and dont kid youself about the necrokillings...it was never ever your gal attacking in cluster, but allways mine. We died trying to save make a difference, whilst you lot wanted to hold on to a useless NAP

Ill speak to the Silver BC in question anyways, see if he wants to shed some more light on that for you

lol?
i never attacked in cluster?

hehe

if you say so

Maddix · 21 Mar 2003, 11:19

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Originally posted by Aaranaf
defectors are un-loyal weenies who play for themselves. they have no faith in thier alliance, and in this case, refuse to even stick around for a week of tough times.

What are alliance HCs that attempt to protect themselves by getting galaxy mates to join an alliance for protection then?

xtothez · 21 Mar 2003, 12:55

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Originally posted by cyphie
and suddenly people like xtothez and dreadnaught and zhil never talk on forums anymore i wonder why..... surely you can tell if your alliance is guilty of this or not

Its more because I haven't read AD since Monday, due to the fact it's full of (even more) trolling/spamming/insulting **** than normal. Instead I've spent this week doing Elysium military work, coding my IRC services, fixing PCs for friends, working, and where possible - drinking. I apologise if I dont have time to respond to trolling inbreds on AD with as much grasp of actual facts as the average "kill the towelheads" redneck.

If you have any specific complaints with my alliance back up with actual truth, you know where to direct them. It's not here.

xtothez · 21 Mar 2003, 12:56

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Originally posted by cyphie
~

Strange how we never see Tor out and about these days. Not since my last AD post anyway...

xtothez · 21 Mar 2003, 12:58

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Originally posted by Ahriman
I .. find myself in accordance with Lyrtas. They chose their side, just as I did. I wouldn't ever consider switching after beginning to walk my chosen path, and would gladly rape into the ground anyone attempting to save themselves by selling out their 'friends.'

It's just not right in my opinion.

Fully agreed.

I stayed with Silver when FLVT/FoS bashed us to the ground.
I stayed with Ely when FLVTTROFLTOMATO sat on NewX all round.
I stayed with Ely when my top 10 planet was bashed down to becoming a scan planet all round.
I stayed with Ely despite offers of vouches for several alliances (Titans, Adelante, etc) during these times.

I can play without a single-digit ranking. I cant play without the friends I've known for my duration here, and I certainly cant sell them out for a bigger number above my overview screen. It's jsut not right.

Jester · 21 Mar 2003, 14:38

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Originally posted by xtothez
I can play without a single-digit ranking.

Does that make you special? Are you a better person for it?

I think not.

Jester

black-eyed boy · 21 Mar 2003, 14:51

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Originally posted by Maddix
What are alliance HCs that attempt to protect themselves by getting galaxy mates to join an alliance for protection then?

Personally I call them "jurgens"

cypher · 21 Mar 2003, 14:52

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Originally posted by xtothez
Its more because I haven't read AD since Monday, due to the fact it's full of (even more) trolling/spamming/insulting **** than normal. Instead I've spent this week doing Elysium military work, coding my IRC services, fixing PCs for friends, working, and where possible - drinking. I apologise if I dont have time to respond to trolling inbreds on AD with as much grasp of actual facts as the average "kill the towelheads" redneck.

If you have any specific complaints with my alliance back up with actual truth, you know where to direct them. It's not here.

good lesson for yourself aswell to read be4 you say stuff about vom next time, but let's not get into that.
as far as i heard some of those defectors went to elysium, if i am wrong then say i am here and i will prolly believe you. but seeing as still no-one has and sakera only says he can't say anything i'll have to believe what i heard

i know for sure some joined Rah atleast which doesn't surprise me... it kinda explains all the theamion posts aswell heh

and yes maddix such hc's are lame aswell, still doesn't make accepting defectors any better

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Originally posted by xtothez
Strange how we never see Tor out and about these days. Not since my last AD post anyway...

i honestly have no idea who or what tor is heh

The_Fish · 21 Mar 2003, 15:19

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Originally posted by black-eyed boy
Personally I call them "jurgens"

LMAO

logbat · 21 Mar 2003, 15:39

dont this fkin defectors know they are going to be hunted down the other rounds?? where is the moral?
and many small irritated disapointed ex friends can do mutch dammage

coords written down for this round. nicks written down for comeing rounds

Eol · 21 Mar 2003, 20:11

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Originally posted by Galadrieth
Ive seen allot of moaning about this defectors stuff, and it makes me laugh, i was not going to say nything before, but i remember very very qell in round 6 how a Titans HC, now a VOM HC was relaying information to Silver BC, so that his galaxy would stay safe....i reckon thats allot worse...

There's only one Titans HC that's a VOM HC and he quit really early in round 6 (before the first attacks were launched) because he had previously been in bed for a month with glandular fever and had missed a month of school and was generally ill a lot, and thus had a serious mess of a real life to sort out and had absolutely no energy to spend on a web based space game.

If I don't recall wrongly, he wasn't even on the internet for half the round except to check mail, and later on he was sometimes on IRC, though not very often. At that point however he was no longer Titans HC.

Secondly, his galaxy got bashed into the ground. So much for staying safe.

KoRnNut · 21 Mar 2003, 20:39

I don't remember anyone getting this upset when NoCeX was smashed and broke apart. There were record level defections that occured shortly after. I find it funny that there are probably alot of players right now dying to reply to this thread but their hypocritical behaviour would be called on right away.

Wishmaster · 21 Mar 2003, 21:09

I agre with u Lrytas. To deflect is just too lame, I hope they get bashed the next rounds:-)

Jester · 21 Mar 2003, 21:30

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Originally posted by KoRnNut
I don't remember anyone getting this upset when NoCeX was smashed and broke apart.

Amazing what the power of denial can do.

Jester

21 Mar 2003, 22:44

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Originally posted by mazzelaar
3 members - the rest also ended up attacking me from in gal -so I guess I got my just desserts

...and lets not forget our old friend Grandpaw playing both sides off against each other....so I guess that made 3.5.

Stress · 22 Mar 2003, 02:15

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Originally posted by Desse
Webangel is not a VOM HC anymore.

his planet is still online thoug

logbat · 22 Mar 2003, 02:17

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Originally posted by Stress
his planet is still online thoug

clearly he have to be offline when hes not HC, shame on WA

Stress · 22 Mar 2003, 02:40

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Originally posted by cyphie
good lesson for yourself aswell to read be4 you say stuff about vom next time, but let's not get into that.
as far as i heard some of those defectors went to elysium, if i am wrong then say i am here and i will prolly believe you. but seeing as still no-one has and sakera only says he can't say anything i'll have to believe what i heard

They arent, if u think they are PM me on PA nett. and state why.

Storebo · 22 Mar 2003, 03:07

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Originally posted by black-eyed boy
Personally I call them "jurgens"

Zh|l · 22 Mar 2003, 03:24

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Originally posted by Temp3st
...and lets not forget our old friend Grandpaw playing both sides off against each other....so I guess that made 3.5.

Grandpaw was mostly useless at the time. When he supplied NoS coordinates to me, I repaid the favour with membership to r7 Wrath. Wrath was riddeled with spies, it was no skin off my teeth. He was watched and monitored anyway. As for that galaxy, the reason wasnt score or rank. mazz allowed his galaxy to fall into only a planet NAP status without any fuss whatsoever and never complained once. I can't remember him having a big planet either.

He wasnt a typical defector out to just save themselves.

Storebo · 22 Mar 2003, 04:38

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Originally posted by KoRnNut
I don't remember anyone getting this upset when NoCeX was smashed and broke apart. There were record level defections that occured shortly after. I find it funny that there are probably alot of players right now dying to reply to this thread but their hypocritical behaviour would be called on right away.

Must say I kinda like the defections. They mean that u weaken the alliance themself. Their membershiplevel. They won't come back as strong the next round. Is a part of war.

logbat · 22 Mar 2003, 04:58

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Originally posted by Storebo
Must say I kinda like the defections. They mean that u weaken the alliance themself. Their membershiplevel. They won't come back as strong the next round. Is a part of war.

says a whole lot of you

Storebo · 22 Mar 2003, 05:00

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Originally posted by logbat
says a whole lot of you

U play the game... U are having a war... If u or your enemy lose there will allways be a price, and there should be. Defectors isn't anything I value... But I do love it when my enemy is striked by it, makes it more of a victory to damage the alliance itself.

logbat · 22 Mar 2003, 05:15

mkay if you put it that way i understand

Scouse · 22 Mar 2003, 11:34

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Originally posted by Storebo
U play the game... U are having a war... If u or your enemy lose there will allways be a price, and there should be. Defectors isn't anything I value... But I do love it when my enemy is striked by it, makes it more of a victory to damage the alliance itself.

Put yourself in the other guy's shoes and imagine how disgusted you'd be if it happened to your alliance, whilst you were facing the same odds as VVOMM are now.

Eol · 22 Mar 2003, 11:52

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Originally posted by Scouse
Put yourself in the other guy's shoes and imagine how disgusted you'd be if it happened to your alliance, whilst you were facing the same odds as VVOMM are now.

Oi. I don't want his stinking feet in my shoes

Storebo · 22 Mar 2003, 17:16

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Originally posted by Scouse
Put yourself in the other guy's shoes and imagine how disgusted you'd be if it happened to your alliance, whilst you were facing the same odds as VVOMM are now.

Well.. it have.... Round 5 Elysium for instance.. lost 100 player there.. Recruited to Fury/Legion. U might think it sucks, but it also leaves u the loyal core. And the ones who left, u soon realize how much better u where without em. An alliance can get stronger from this.. or it can perish. Up to the alliance itself.

Storebo · 22 Mar 2003, 17:17

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Originally posted by Eol
Oi. I don't want his stinking feet in my shoes

Your girly shoes are to small for me anyway..

Scouse · 22 Mar 2003, 23:31

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Originally posted by Storebo
but it also leaves u the loyal core. And the ones who left, u soon realize how much better u where without em. An alliance can get stronger from this.. or it can perish. Up to the alliance itself.

Agreed. At the end of round 7, during the Fury war, we booted anyone not completely serving Titans. Anyone trying to hide in protected galaxies or going inactive without reason were removed.

We were better in round 8 for not having the hangers on.

Heartshunter · 23 Mar 2003, 00:25

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Originally posted by Storebo
Must say I kinda like the defections. They mean that u weaken the alliance themself. Their membershiplevel. They won't come back as strong the next round. Is a part of war.

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Originally posted by Storebo
Well.. it have.... Round 5 Elysium for instance.. lost 100 player there.. Recruited to Fury/Legion. U might think it sucks, but it also leaves u the loyal core. And the ones who left, u soon realize how much better u where without em. An alliance can get stronger from this.. or it can perish. Up to the alliance itself.

Make up your mind.

AlbinoSquirrel · 23 Mar 2003, 00:35

I just wanted to say that I love lrytas, and I'm sorry our little chat between RaH and LDK last round didn't work out terribly well.

(it would have been fun though, and say hi to izverg for me)

Jester · 23 Mar 2003, 00:38

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Originally posted by Heartshunter
Make up your mind.

He's saying the same thing in both instances...

Jester

Storebo · 23 Mar 2003, 01:07

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Originally posted by Heartshunter
Make up your mind.

I don't see how thoose 2 quotes conflicts with each other?

Scouse · 23 Mar 2003, 01:53

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Originally posted by AlbinoSquirrel
I just wanted to say that I love lrytas, and I'm sorry our little chat between RaH and LDK last round didn't work out terribly well.

(it would have been fun though, and say hi to izverg for me)

So I'm guessing RaH would have blocked if it meant you getting in with LDK?

Knight Theamion · 23 Mar 2003, 01:55

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Originally posted by Scouse
So I'm guessing RaH would have blocked if it meant you getting in with LDK?

No.

Jester · 23 Mar 2003, 03:19

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Originally posted by Scouse
So I'm guessing RaH would have blocked if it meant you getting in with LDK?

Some people wanted it. AlbinoSqrl happened to be in an LDK HC gal, he was one of them. Part of the reason some people wanted to do it was to reinstate fluidity after FAnG/Adelante and Fury had essentially lost. Others just didn't want to see Titans win.

Jester