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Unread 4 Feb 2003, 00:55   #51
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Unread 4 Feb 2003, 01:29   #52
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Unread 4 Feb 2003, 01:38   #53
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why bother giving info i have spent time gathering and most ppl know anyway to the readers of AD?

its not like its hard to find out anyway - just ask the right (innocent) people
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Unread 4 Feb 2003, 05:36   #54
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One of our stipulations in forming any agreement, with any alliance is that KillMark has no ties to it, whatsoever. Dead serious.
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One of our stipulations in forming any agreement, with any alliance is that KillMark has no ties to it, whatsoever. Dead serious.
Like any alliance would really know if they had Killmark amongst their members. What happens if your allies suddenly find KM in a top ten ranking amongst their memberbase and then suddenly decide that he is actually a valuable member to them after all...

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Like any alliance would really know if they had Killmark amongst their members. What happens if your allies suddenly find KM in a top ten ranking amongst their memberbase and then suddenly decide that he is actually a valuable member to them after all...

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Though I wouldn't put it past Virus to harbor Killmark (especially if he were top10), Madcows and Olympians would both probably stage the attack to roid him to the ground themselves...

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Like any alliance would really know if they had Killmark amongst their members.
I think his ego would be too big to not reveal himself at some point, especially if doing well. So they'd know.
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Though I wouldn't put it past Virus to harbor Killmark (especially if he were top10), Madcows and Olympians would both probably stage the attack to roid him to the ground themselves...

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Not if Virus (taking your example) would cover him because he was for instance Virus' top ranked planet or he was biggest player in #1 ranked gal. Especially if Madcows and Oly would still need Virus in their war efforts. Also they could not afford a split in their coalition since all their gals are fused so tightly that they cannot really afford to argue about something like this. They will just have to accept certain things from each other even though they might well dislike that.

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I think his ego would be too big to not reveal himself at some point, especially if doing well. So they'd know.
Isn't that exectly what I ment ???
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Isn't that exectly what I ment ???
I have no idea what you meant. It is certainly not what you wrote though.
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I have no idea what you meant. It is certainly not what you wrote though.
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"What happens if your allies suddenly find KM in a top ten ranking amongst their memberbase"

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"I think his ego would be too big to not reveal himself at some point, especially if doing well. "

That is not so much of a difference.

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Like any alliance would really know if they had Killmark amongst their members

And my reply was in response to that (as I suspect you know full well).
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Though I wouldn't put it past Virus to harbor Killmark (especially if he were top10), Madcows and Olympians would both probably stage the attack to roid him to the ground themselves...

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Not if Virus (taking your example) would cover him because he was for instance Virus' top ranked planet or he was biggest player in #1 ranked gal. Especially if Madcows and Oly would still need Virus in their war efforts. Also they could not afford a split in their coalition since all their gals are fused so tightly that they cannot really afford to argue about something like this. They will just have to accept certain things from each other even though they might well dislike that.

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It would not be accepted, trust me. If it led to "civil war", then so be it.

This would not happen though, as our (Cows at least) relationship with ViruS (the example you used) goes back a long ways, probably 4 or 5 rounds.
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... Killmark was ranked high last round when virus found him kicked him and destroyed his planet.. why would they let such a cheater back . simple I'm sure after knowing the Ex's there that he wouldent be welcome back.

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Not if Virus (taking your example) would cover him because he was for instance Virus' top ranked planet or he was biggest player in #1 ranked gal. Especially if Madcows and Oly would still need Virus in their war efforts. Also they could not afford a split in their coalition since all their gals are fused so tightly that they cannot really afford to argue about something like this. They will just have to accept certain things from each other even though they might well dislike that.

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Though I wouldn't put it past Virus to harbor Killmark (especially if he were top10), Madcows and Olympians would both probably stage the attack to roid him to the ground themselves if they found him in their respective alliances...
Then again, as pointed out, they found Killmark in Virus before, and gave him the boot then

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why bother giving info i have spent time gathering and most ppl know anyway to the readers of AD?

its not like its hard to find out anyway - just ask the right (innocent) people
Scouse pulled this off so very much better than you (and he never pm'd me either fs )

Why has my (resurrected) thread become a 'what if Killmark...' thread anyway? What if Killmark grew flowers out of his arse? Would anyone really care at this point?

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I'm assuming Scouse considers himself a cut above the rest of the AD users.

ANYWAY back to reality.

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Though I wouldn't put it past Virus to harbor Killmark (especially if he were top10), Madcows and Olympians would both probably stage the attack to roid him to the ground themselves...

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I'm assuming Scouse considers himself a cut above the rest of the AD users.

ANYWAY back to reality.

Ahri find me on IRC and I'll give you the juicy details
perhaps his past position(s) and contacts give him insight into the situation above and beyond your 'normal' player? nah i don't guess we would have thought of that huh.
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This would not happen though, as our (Cows at least) relationship with ViruS (the example you used) goes back a long ways, probably 4 or 5 rounds.
MadCows did not exist as an alliance back then however. Otherwise you conducted a treasonous act and lied to me Mr Cochese. Regardless, the Fury/ViruS relationship was the longest running in the game - and the ToT/ViruS relationship looked extremely strong until one day it just fell apart.
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MadCows did not exist as an alliance back then however. Otherwise you conducted a treasonous act and lied to me Mr Cochese. Regardless, the Fury/ViruS relationship was the longest running in the game - and the ToT/ViruS relationship looked extremely strong until one day it just fell apart.

It wasn't an alliance as such, more like a BG of sorts. I wouldn't lie to you, or commit treason against Fury. You of all people should know what it meant for me to be there

Anyways, though the Cows/ViruS relationship obviously wasn't on an alliance-to-alliance level until recently, many of the people working on both sides have long histories together, so it feels like we've been allies for a long time.

Why I myself even shared a galaxy with an up-and-coming ViruS executive not too many rounds ago...and oh the stories he has to tell I'm sure
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It wasn't an alliance as such, more like a BG of sorts. I wouldn't lie to you, or commit treason against Fury. You of all people should know what it meant for me to be there

Anyways, though the Cows/ViruS relationship obviously wasn't on an alliance-to-alliance level until recently, many of the people working on both sides have long histories together, so it feels like we've been allies for a long time.

Why I myself even shared a galaxy with an up-and-coming ViruS executive not too many rounds ago...and oh the stories he has to tell I'm sure
tis true. when madcows was just a friendly group, a large minority of the people were virus. i myself was a madcow for example and have been good friends with a buncha those nuts for a while now.

Many Madcows members / commanders were ViruS at one point or another as well. it simply made sense to have an agreement with madcows because our command had a great deal of chemistry and friendship. might as well take advantage of the fact that people at the command level will get along, as opposed to senseless bickering.

twas a good galaxy huh, Cochese... even with the whole civil war we had going on, and LDK bashin us relentlessly in cluster. we still managed to have fun and not have a half bad end rank
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This post is just so much manufactured propoganda spam, you guys should call yourselves One True Voice, or perhaps not everybody are the idiots you think they are?

isnt that a really bad manufactured male pop band

i cant even imagine the regurlars of AD trying to sing let alone look sexy and dance at the same time..
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they hired Dreadnought as a board spammer, but he misunderstood the job and spammed their own board

I can also provide list of which g0ats they shag

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i cant even imagine the regurlars of AD trying to sing let alone look sexy and dance at the same time..
Heh, would be amusing to see tho
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tis true. when madcows was just a friendly group, a large minority of the people were virus. i myself was a madcow for example and have been good friends with a buncha those nuts for a while now.

Many Madcows members / commanders were ViruS at one point or another as well. it simply made sense to have an agreement with madcows because our command had a great deal of chemistry and friendship. might as well take advantage of the fact that people at the command level will get along, as opposed to senseless bickering.

twas a good galaxy huh, Cochese... even with the whole civil war we had going on, and LDK bashin us relentlessly in cluster. we still managed to have fun and not have a half bad end rank

The Politics board was the best as the moc could no longer select all posts and delete them easily as I'm sure Dlord would agree seeng as he was moc
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Just think of the happy days in the GGFC...that always cheers me up

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Baggy - u need to chill I think my friend

Just think of the happy days in the GGFC...that always cheers me up

but u left me! i hate your stupid crappy alliance


GGFC forever FFS

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I feel so ignored
oooohhh you know youre there just to make sure they dont get view`d upon as "new" fury

see: Killghost,Focht,zhil and you allmost none "ex" fury in charge.
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oooohhh you know youre there just to make sure they dont get view`d upon as "new" fury

see: Killghost,Focht,zhil and you allmost none "ex" fury in charge.
clearly not fury
WE ARE CLEARLY NOT FURY!
zhil never was a real fury, he spied on us for IPC..
KG is actually a TC spy..

and i dont have to tell about Focht's dark past :/
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Rob is ex Fury as is Olrik, I'm under the impression Aga (Is he still there ?) is the only one who hasn't been Fury.

How can Eclipse be the new Fury when they've left out many of the people who gave their life and soul to make Fury great and more importantly without a single C7r member, to be honest you'd be hard pressed to find many pre Round 5 Fury members in Eclipse, if anything Eclipse should be compared to Wrath not Fury.

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to be honest you'd be hard pressed to find many pre Round 5 Fury members in Eclipse, if anything Eclipse should be compared to Wrath not Fury.
there's atleast a few pre round 5 fury members in eclipse.. maybe not many, but a few...
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I bet they can be counted on one hand.
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They asked you to join in the end then ? A few of us are still waiting on invitations Anyway I'm happy in my alliance there no knives aimed at me there
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They asked you to join in the end then ? A few of us are still waiting on invitations Anyway I'm happy in my alliance there no knives aimed at me there
i'm not sure whether i was invited or not..
i had to write an application, but i was wanted in the alliance.. but it wasnt sure i would be able to join because i left fury to join fang in r8, loyalty and such..

/me invites Hicks to join..
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oooohhh you know youre there just to make sure they dont get view`d upon as "new" fury

see: Killghost,Focht,zhil and you allmost none "ex" fury in charge.
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What a load of bull****. The fact you even try to make Rob's involvement sound like that is testiment that you know nothing to how Eclipse was even formed. Rob has HC experience with new alliances - something the rest of us DON'T have (bar for KillGhost before Fury).

Just because I am ex-Fury does not mean I act in a Fury manner or wish to do things exactly the same way as Fury. Fury had good procedures, but is also had bad ones.

I'm proud of my achievements through Fury. I'm proud to have worked with people like Sid, Biggdogg, Lokken, Grendel and... gosh too many to list. But you fail to realize how out of all these ex-Fury none of them ever had a veto within Fury or decided Fury policies. The closest to that is myself because of Wrath.

All in all, you are blind to a past history. Just a word of caution, if you think we'll act the same as Fury you should rethink your entire game plan.
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I think logbat touched on a senstive subject for Zhil.

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I think logbat touched on a senstive subject for Zhil.

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I can completely understand Zhil's reaction tho.. I've seen widespread marginalization of ex-fury members and command by alot of people on here. It's truly sick and dissappointing how demonizing people can be just because you belonged to a certain alliance at one point in time. They label you as evil or unable to think for yourself because you were part of 'the machine'. It almost borders on racism/classism. It gets a little old after a while. Not only do they (we) have to contend with this but also contend with the added preceptions that because of the past there won't be any difference in the future. These are all still dynamic, changing people who play a game, not some monkeys on electroshock who will just fall over and collapse now that the person pushing the button is gone. Fury worked and worked well because of cooperation and understanding in a singular vision, not people mindlessly walking instep with some tyrant. Lets give the people who ran the greatest alliance in pa some fking credit.

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