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Unread 11 Jan 2003, 18:34   #1
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Structural Info on Eclipse and Olympians

Having been 'detached' from the alliance scene since the end of r7 I obviously have quite horrendous gaps in my knowledge. I have read quite a few threads, some edging at what I'm asking and others giving snippets of info, but none giving the info in full (so don't tell me to read this).

What I want to know is:
  • who is in charge of these alliances
  • which people are officers
  • whether they're governed Fury-style or more like Legion
  • and which among the ex-alliances they have taken their members from.
I already know from Kj's comment in the above linked thread that Eclipse is made up of Fury/Legion/RaH/Deus, and it sounded like Focht was 'in-charge'. I also know that someone said Olympians is mainly Plush/Titans.

Please can I have a comprehensive reply to iron this out.

Note: I'm not all that interested in HD since they're apparently Adelante/MDK related, but in the interests of other ignorant parties on AD, someone could post a little something about them too in the fashion described above.
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Unread 11 Jan 2003, 19:20   #2
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Oooooo. This is fun. I'll tell you what I know soon enough Ahri in private, but let's see what the average AD reader knows first.
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Unread 11 Jan 2003, 20:02   #3
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Oooooo. This is fun. I'll tell you what I know soon enough Ahri in private, but let's see what the average AD reader knows first.
U really think they are going to say what they really think or are even allowed to
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 02:51   #4
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U really think they are going to say what they really think or are even allowed to
People are always more than happy to show how much they know, how '1337' their intel is and how 'in the know' they are. I don't expect anyone from any of the mentioned alliances to reply with information about their alliance.
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 03:40   #5
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Re: Structural Info on Eclipse and Olympians

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Originally posted by Ahriman
Having been 'detached' from the alliance scene since the end of r7 I obviously have quite horrendous gaps in my knowledge. I have read quite a few threads, some edging at what I'm asking and others giving snippets of info, but none giving the info in full (so don't tell me to read this).

What I want to know is:
  • who is in charge of these alliances
  • which people are officers
  • whether they're governed Fury-style or more like Legion
  • and which among the ex-alliances they have taken their members from.
I already know from Kj's comment in the above linked thread that Eclipse is made up of Fury/Legion/RaH/Deus, and it sounded like Focht was 'in-charge'. I also know that someone said Olympians is mainly Plush/Titans.

Please can I have a comprehensive reply to iron this out.

Note: I'm not all that interested in HD since they're apparently Adelante/MDK related, but in the interests of other ignorant parties on AD, someone could post a little something about them too in the fashion described above.
About olympians I think it's WebAngel's initiative.

Eclipse, didn't say it was lead by focht, I know he's in it along with Killghost and others. I'm sure they both have command positions.

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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 04:57   #6
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 09:48   #7
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afaik:

Eclipse is lead by Focht Killghost Zhil and some names i cant think of at the moment
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 10:13   #8
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 10:18   #9
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it would be a nice thing to kno tbh
personally i am curious myself
but its totally up to the two alliances and their HC
if they have nothing to hide i think they can tell, i mean tellin ppl who is in charge is no big deal
or is it?
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 11:33   #10
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ahri

some blokes ahve sarted new allainces and some blokes have stopped allainces,

i am still here, so thats really it

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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 13:06   #11
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hmmm...I thought I read somewhere that Olrik and Rob are also in the Eclipse HC.
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 14:27   #12
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hmmm...I thought I read somewhere that Olrik and Rob are also in the Eclipse HC.
More people heard that
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ahri

some blokes ahve sarted new allainces and some blokes have stopped allainces,

i am still here, so thats really it

"this pointless post has been brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood boba"
Finally! A comprehensive reply to my thread, whatever would I do without ya boba?
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Unread 12 Jan 2003, 15:08   #14
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Ahri u will probably have to thank scouse for the lack of informative replies in this thread, he seem to of scared a lot of posters off.

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eclipse is lead by Focht, Zhil, Killmark, Rob, and Agamemnon.
Diplomatic corps are Rumad and Kjeldoran. BiggDogg and Fred are Senior Offciers and Special advisors.
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eclipse is lead by Focht, Zhil, Killmark, Rob, and Agamemnon.
Diplomatic corps are Rumad and Kjeldoran. BiggDogg and Fred are Senior Offciers and Special advisors.
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eclipse is lead by Focht, Zhil, Killmark, Rob, and Agamemnon.
Diplomatic corps are Rumad and Kjeldoran. BiggDogg and Fred are Senior Offciers and Special advisors.
you made me laugh simon
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hehe amusing thread by the honour and loyalty fraction.

Ahriman if u wanted to know something about Olympians or Eclipse, i guess the best idea would be to jump on irc and to ask the right ppl (seems you already identified them in your first post).

tho i strongly doubt you werent able to find this information as your claim to be out of the loop is not represented by your steady board postings. So either you lied or someone else used your board acc during your long abscence
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eclipse is lead by Focht, Zhil, Killmark, Rob, and Agamemnon.
Diplomatic corps are Rumad and Kjeldoran. BiggDogg and Fred are Senior Offciers and Special advisors.
LIES!! I lead both!

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eclipse is lead by Focht, Zhil, Killmark, Rob, and Agamemnon.
Diplomatic corps are Rumad and Kjeldoran. BiggDogg and Fred are Senior Offciers and Special advisors.
if that was a joke ... **** OFF

if that was a mistake ... SAME

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hehe amusing thread by the honour and loyalty fraction.

Ahriman if u wanted to know something about Olympians or Eclipse, i guess the best idea would be to jump on irc and to ask the right ppl (seems you already identified them in your first post).

tho i strongly doubt you werent able to find this information as your claim to be out of the loop is not represented by your steady board postings. So either you lied or someone else used your board acc during your long abscence
I think you give me far more credit than I deserve

I didn't know what was going on when I posted the thread, but now I do (and a lot of use AD was in helping me ). I haven't decided whether to come back and play r9 yet...

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They were sold out.

Why do I need a humor transpant? to understand some fool who's trying to be funny? "humiliating" pple in any sence possible is hardly funny, then again who am I to be all moralistic in AD.
According to some you deserve the dead penalty for even trying to be humane on AD ...

ahh well ...

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They were sold out.

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ahh well ...

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Disclaimer: I know a couple of Americans who can deal with pisstaking - but only a couple.

Edit: I prefer the term "racialist"..... rofl.
hehe, I can take some yes ...

only depends who it comes from. If you or parra would do it I wouldn't really mind but some pple I just have to react on

and no ahri, this is not an open invitation

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Oooooo. This is fun. I'll tell you what I know soon enough Ahri in private, but let's see what the average AD reader knows first.
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Why do people feel they have to be so ultra l33t and top secret about their new alliance?

Wouldnt it instead be just as good to say "Hi, this is us, we consist mainly of old A and B members, HC's are X and Y." Or would that hurt you in some way?


Think about it..if you try and try to even keep the HC somewhat 'secret' and hush hush, doesnt that just feed your opponents will to find out more, ie do worse things than just ask nicely?


Like Scouse said; let's see what the average AD reader knows first.
Why?

Why not just tell him?, the average poster/reader.
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Unread 14 Jan 2003, 02:15   #36
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hehe, I can take some yes ...

only depends who it comes from. If you or parra would do it I wouldn't really mind but some pple I just have to react on

and no ahri, this is not an open invitation

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I decided against replying for my personal bemusement and watching you overreact to my reply out of respect for your feelings. I would like to ask you in return though to please read this attentively:

The words I wrote in joke seem to have hit you somehow (otherwise i can't explain your overreaction to them), but they were not meant as an attack against you, not even meant to hurt anyone. Even if it was though, this hardly would be something worth fighting for as you can gain nothing from that fight besides stress and provocations.

On one hand it would take away quite some fun if you never overreacted to anything, but on the other it would be a great relief if i did not have to bother about you possibly misinterpreting my post and me hence unwillingly hurting your feelings.

Concerning the part i quoted, I have the feeling this reflects a common misunderstanding supported by the paranoid situation PA creates: You seem to assume everybody is against you except for the ones you know to be "on your side". While this is a good attitude for a game where almost everyone wants your roids, in the real world people tend to have a lot less enemies, so automatically assuming everyone who is not friend and everything said by those is directed against you, leads to more problems than it's worth. The World isn't full of friends, but it isn't full of enemies either: It is full of neutrals that you can often make friend or foe through your own behaviour.
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Unread 14 Jan 2003, 09:44   #37
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Why not just tell him?, the average poster/reader.
if you are 'in the know' you try to keep it that way as long as possible. even alliance hc's have an ego...
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Unread 14 Jan 2003, 10:04   #38
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if you are 'in the know' you try to keep it that way as long as possible. even alliance hc's have an ego...
I know, but i was asking why :P

I've never really seen any reason for it.
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Unread 14 Jan 2003, 11:43   #39
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I know, but i was asking why :P

I've never really seen any reason for it.
because its cool to know something others dont know. or at least pretend.
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grrr that wasn't very nice.

Now people pm me to join ffs.

And I always thought it was Aneu who started the incorrect rumour I was involved.


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grrr that wasn't very nice.

Now people pm me to join ffs.

And I always thought it was Aneu who started the incorrect rumour I was involved.


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grrr that wasn't very nice.

Now people pm me to join ffs.

And I always thought it was Aneu who started the incorrect rumour I was involved.

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Obviously it has become hard for some people to distinguish you from killghost...
Don't think he will be happy with that either

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I am insulted by your accusations. In no way have I ever been 'with' rgds Kj or even pretended to like FAnG (who even rgds Kj knows were always rubbish - we told him enough times in #titans).

I demand a long apology for hurting my feelings, preferably without any connection to this 'real world' that sounds so very alien.


PS. I think I'll play r9 - what a loss for the real world It just sounds too funny to miss.
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Obviously it has become hard for some people to distinguish you from killghost...
Don't think he will be happy with that either

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Well we had a convo about it when KM|away and KG|away were both on OO IRC and kept getting each others PM's

There was no resolution.



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do i tell?

nah


do i know?


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