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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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i would agree but 25% of the uni have gone Cath and you'd assume 20% of them will go co atleast
Etd will get roided to hell cos of this reason
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a lot of the 20% xans in uni will be going FR as attackfleet, and at least 5% (if not more) of those 25% cath are scanners/covoppers. And i am not even distracting the caths who will go CR.
Xan FI can hit both etd as zik, so its not only etd they can choose from.The real threat in race % is Ter with 25% though, and tbfh xan FR is so much better against Ter than xan FI is against Etd, esp knowing that the etds will be stealing FI during the round which will help them in their vulnerability in anti fi/co.
Xan FR however will have it easy vs any ter. If you fear you lack targets but still wanna go xan, go for xan fr and ideally get an etd fr to team with and hit those value ters. Likewise, if you went ter, attack xans with ur DE. I say attack eachother at the same moment and enjoy eachothers roids. GL (and the more i look at them, the better the stats become, i must admit its something i did not expect to happen with single targetting)
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Anyone actually enjoying single targetting round?
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Yes. I have ships! And I'm attacking!
It's crazy.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
What?! Mz attacking?! It must be lies!
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
i enjoy it alot, imo one of the best rounds after a long time
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I also enjoy it a lot. ST is great.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
For what little activity I can put in I've enjoyed it. Terran and etd are a little powerful but this would be a great set of stats to REUSE with a couple of relatively minor changes.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Yes. I have ships! And I'm attacking!
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I also am enjoying these stats. But I always prefer attack oriented stats, whether single targeting or not. Attack oriented stats (which these are) help reward activity and smart game play, as opposed to roid grabbing and then trying to fortress yourself as usually happens with defensive oriented stats.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Only reason why people land attacks are massive waves or because people don't cover vs fakes, now that inc scans are in.. I'd say the stats are way more defencive than offencive. I can cover 5-6 team ups with 1-2 fleets for almost zero losses, that's defencive.
Ofc there's some clever waves what you can build and stuff like that, but prelaunched defence and incoming scans makes this round very heavily defencive.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
The stats gives a lot of fake options and bizarre teamup possibilities. Though, people like launching their real fleets with their obvious teamups, until they pass out of boredom. As long as this tendancy keeps up, and i dont see it changing, we will be playing defensive planetarion.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Incoming scans are the reason you get 20-30 dists.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I can cover 2-3 team ups with 5-6 fleets for almost zero losses.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
So, will next round be MT again, or will it be ST?
Would be nice to know if I m gonna play or not next round!
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I heard it would ST again, to keep you from playing
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I heard it would ST again, to keep you from playing
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
cool!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
ST rounds are just a lot more fun than MT rounds. Seriously.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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ST rounds are just a lot more fun than MT rounds. Seriously.
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No. No they are not. Seriously
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
actually he's right, mt rounds are so boring, same 3 ships over and over. FAKING IS FUN
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I'd quite gladly gauge my eyes out rather than play with these stats again.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
*passes Sun_Tzu a fork*
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I'm having a great time as zik to be honest. Keeping roids isn't overly difficult and I have landed almost all my fakes
Multitargetting is just ****ing dire as everyone spams three ships, its nigh on impossible to fake, and you end up having to send over-the-top waves. I don't mind these stats too much, but there are a bit too many 0-loss ships imo. Ideally I'd love a set of stats with primarily single-targetting but where some ships target 2 classes(at lower efficiency).
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
zik is so much fun.. the fakes are incredible!!! it all seems quite well balanced, however i got a lil feeling that etd is a bit overpowered (thats purely my opinion)
and yes, MT sucks due to spamming 3 ships and imo makes the round so dull :/
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I don't think any race is overpowered per say, however, it is obvious that gals focusing on Ter + Etd are doing very very well as the two races compliment each other great defensively.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
I think a purely random universe, using this round's stats as the base for next round's, would be great fun.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I think a purely random universe, using this round's stats as the base for next round's, would be great fun.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I really would like to see a totally random universe for a round. Not particularly bothered if they reverted back to a sensible older set of multi-targeting stats though.
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I can predict it already, if they announce a purely random round there will be a long thread of people whining about how they will quit and never play again along with a few folks saying it's the best thing since sliced bread. A few will grumble about either MT or ST depending which is announced, and there will be three or four random posts advertising a new brand of sliced cheese! Oh what is this game coming to?!?!?
This being said I think a fully random round would be interesting regardless of the forum rants.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I can predict it already, if they announce a purely random round there will be a long thread of people whining about how they will quit and never play again along with a few folks saying it's the best thing since sliced bread. A few will grumble about either MT or ST depending which is announced, and there will be three or four random posts advertising a new brand of sliced cheese! Oh what is this game coming to?!?!?
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Fully random is ok, if you ban exiling, ****ing pointless if people can just exile out/in to get make private gals in random round.
2 target targetting ships are fine, no more of this ST tbh, there's limits how annoyed I get if some newb can launch a theoretically succesfull wave to me even if i'm 10-20 times he's size in fleet value just because of races and if I kill 95% of he's fleet.. he's still on + side in the score.. I mean gimme a break.
oh well, ETD is OP if teamed with xan , Terran definately is even more OP... I don't think any of the top10 terrans is roidable anymore, prolly not even by frigs either if they builded syrens due to salvage.
God help us when end of this round comes, everyone who's outside top100 can launch at top10 planets and jump insane amounts if they got rightkind of fleet and enough pods.
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r7: wasted c27 gal, sucky luck in clus. r8: In real Finnish infantry.. 270days r9: boring round as hell
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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I can predict it already, if they announce a purely random round there will be a long thread of people whining about how they will quit and never play again along with a few folks saying it's the best thing since sliced bread. A few will grumble about either MT or ST depending which is announced, and there will be three or four random posts advertising a new brand of sliced cheese! Oh what is this game coming to?!?!?
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Fully random is ok, if you ban exiling, ****ing pointless if people can just exile out/in to get make private gals in random round.
2 target targetting ships are fine, no more of this ST tbh, there's limits how annoyed I get if some newb can launch a theoretically succesfull wave to me even if i'm 10-20 times he's size in fleet value just because of races and if I kill 95% of he's fleet.. he's still on + side in the score.. I mean gimme a break.
oh well, ETD is OP if teamed with xan , Terran definately is even more OP... I don't think any of the top10 terrans is roidable anymore, prolly not even by frigs either if they builded syrens due to salvage.
God help us when end of this round comes, everyone who's outside top100 can launch at top10 planets and jump insane amounts if they got rightkind of fleet and enough pods.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
checking back here... what will next round be like? cant be that hard to know how NEXT round will be like
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
MT (in ****ing capitals, shitty forums)
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Unfortunately MT yeah. Think they will be based off a old set off stats. Good thing I am not playing next round, maybe I will covop. MT ****ing sucks. bla bla /wishmaster
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
ALRIGHT! I will play next round then! when does it start?
covoping is worse than horrible btw isil!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Not when I am covopping you
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
so whos doing r38 stats ?
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Appocomaster.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Any change getting apocco to release them fast/early.. if he's just doing a remake of old stats.. might aswell take a look at them and see if we play next round or not, if their fairly bad for certain type of gameplay would like to know it more than a week before tick start.
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r7: wasted c27 gal, sucky luck in clus. r8: In real Finnish infantry.. 270days r9: boring round as hell
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Anyone heard from Apocco which set of old stats he is using?
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Maybe it would be a good idea to look at JBG's recent thread of the best rounds and work out which ones were good because of the stats and base a future round of these. Although im sure they have stats well under way now with <10 days to signup
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Maybe it would be a good idea to look at JBG's recent thread of the best rounds and work out which ones were good because of the stats
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
from what he is saying in the beta channel its between rd 29 and r 30
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
r29!?!?
I do seem to recall r30 stats being pretty good though.
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
If he does use the R29 ones he really needs to do some changes.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
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Originally Posted by isildurx
If he does use the R29 ones he really needs to do some changes.
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wasnt XAN OP back then ? i think i remember regretting not to have went XAN
not sure though
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m0rph3us formerly known as Bugz
"Itīs not about how hard u hit, its about how hard u can get hit and still keep moving forward! How much u can take and still move forward!"
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23 Jul 2010, 14:15
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Moo
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 143
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
Is there anywhere we can see old round stats? I don't even remember round 36 stats anymore.
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23 Jul 2010, 15:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 957
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Re: Round 37 shipsstats discussion thread
http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=4&round=29
Xan itself wasn't that overpowered, it was the 'strength in numbers' from Ascendancy that made a lot of Xan top planets.
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