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Unread 20 Oct 2013, 04:56   #1
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A bit of fun...possibly?

Hi everybody!
I have pondered this for a while, and if I can get the top 10 alliances behind me then it would make this more *fun*.

Next round I would like if you all napped my planet. I won't attack anyone (like usual anyway) but in turn I will not get any Inc's from any alliance. Or any planet. At all. I will sit in some tag just in case I get rogue Incs.

My plan is to just scan like normal (#scans) and only init roids. Like any time I don't need to pay for amps. End goal being to see how I would rank in the end.

I would love to be able to create a tag called Scans and have zero Incs for all of the scanners in this, but that would be near to impossible.

Feedback appreciated!

And yes, I am drunk.

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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

How dare you suggest we have fun!
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Unread 20 Oct 2013, 08:43   #3
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Why don't you ask appoco if you can join patsa??
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

You obviously would win the round easily... And if you didnt know his you were obviously drunk when writing this post
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

People can still attack patsa Kai...
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just make scans not blocked by dissies, win win.
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You can have a Nap from App as I am kind like that!
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can i have one??
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lol Forest
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mPulse just wants to fence.
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Just a quick update on this. So far for the current round I have the following alliances in agreement to pnap my planet:

Apprime
The Fallen
Spore
Conspiracy
Innuendo
Vikings
HEROES

Pending decisions from the following alliances:

NewDawn
Howling Rain
ROCK

So far I haven't been able to contact (drop me a pm on irc please):

All of the top10's have been contacted. If you have an alliance outside of the top10 then please pm me!

My initial plan was to just init from the start and see what would happen, but that was dependent on having all alliances on board. Instead I have changed to scanning primarily (focus was on tech for that at the start rather than mining roids) and to init roids now that I have the scan tech done. The end goal of this is ideally to establish that most/all alliances will allow personal naps to a small number of scanners.

As you can see, the support from alliances has been overwhelming so far, hopefully some of you can twist the arms on the last remaining alliances to jump on board too!

And don't forget, #Scans is banging out scans once again this round! If you or your alliance wants access to the channel to scan (and with that you get access to our central scans collection) then PLEASE pm me on IRC!

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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Just wanted to say that you don't have a pending a decision from ROCK, we've declined your request several times. Unluckily for us you have joined Vikings which we are napped with, so we wont be able to hit you, but those who are unfriendly with Vikings hopefully will have the brains to break the pnap with you.

I can accept that you're setting yourself some goals, what don't make any logic to me is that alliances pnap you so that you can go on a initation trip.
And newsflash... ofc you win if you don't get any proper incs(unless you are way beyond horrible).

And you don't need a whole round to find that out. All you need is a few seconds and a bot.

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Capping 3000 roids at 2500k value with 49% bonus will repay in 223 ticks (9 days)

But in case you manage to break logic and sit on mass roids while not getting incs in a war game over roids. Congratz
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Easy, make the pnaps void if he gets above 1k roids as part of the deal. As far as I'm reading it he just wants to scan and be able to afford his amps, not init to 3k and sit on them all round
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Easy, make the pnaps void if he gets above 1k roids as part of the deal. As far as I'm reading it he just wants to scan and be able to afford his amps, not init to 3k and sit on them all round
to Quote mPulse: "End goal being to see how I would rank in the end."
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oh i forgot about this en devour .... pm me again sometime
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Conspiracy have cancelled their pnap with me, because I am in tag with Vikings (and CT have a war with Vikings currently). They claim that this is in violation of their agreement with me, even though I had originally stated that I would be in a tag. Showed them that, and now their excuse is because I am defending vs them. Never was it said that I wouldn't defend, simply that I wouldn't attack.

Whatever about politics between the two alliances, I'm sitting in tag for def. Nice going CT.
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

To be fair, I just read up and can't see where it says you include defending.

I think if you were in an alliance hostile to me and sending defence against us, we would cancel the p-nap too
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Never was it said that I wouldn't defend, simply that I wouldn't attack.
Well, that's a rather silly expectation. As Forest said(!?), If you defend against someone, you're hostile to them. CT is completely in the right.
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Just wanted to say that you don't have a pending a decision from ROCK, we've declined your request several times. Unluckily for us you have joined Vikings which we are napped with, so we wont be able to hit you, but those who are unfriendly with Vikings hopefully will have the brains to break the pnap with you.

I can accept that you're setting yourself some goals, what don't make any logic to me is that alliances pnap you so that you can go on a initation trip.
And newsflash... ofc you win if you don't get any proper incs(unless you are way beyond horrible).

And you don't need a whole round to find that out. All you need is a few seconds and a bot.

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Capping 3000 roids at 2500k value with 49% bonus will repay in 223 ticks (9 days)

But in case you manage to break logic and sit on mass roids while not getting incs in a war game over roids. Congratz

Dude, wake up!

1)
Do you see him with 3000 roids?

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If he can't be in a tag, how do you expect him to fund his amps?

3)
He is in a tag, and scans, also scans in #scans - who do you think is paying his scans?

4)
If he complyed, and initted a bunch of roids to go completely solo, but have the income to funds amps + shitload of scans - how the DEVIL can he keep roids then? - PA is full of people hunting easy roids.

Dude, just seriously wake up - review your comment - it was just retarded.

Ofc, a universe pnap is silly if you play your planet to compete on top ranks - initting lots of roids and nub roiding. But he has like 500 roids - hardly a threat, but it gives him some incentinve to continue to put effort into hosting bots for alliances, hosting bot + chan for #scans and also getting people free scans...
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Yes Motti, but what was proposed and what is happening is two different things.


From what I gather, what was proposed was 'I want to see how many roids I can innit with scanning and do nothing else with my planet and see what happens'.

As soon as you start involving yourself in war military wise then things change
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Dude, wake up!

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If he complyed, and initted a bunch of roids to go completely solo, but have the income to funds amps + shitload of scans - how the DEVIL can he keep roids then? - PA is full of people hunting easy roids.

Dude, just seriously wake up - review your comment - it was just retarded.

Ofc, a universe pnap is silly if you play your planet to compete on top ranks - initting lots of roids and nub roiding. But he has like 500 roids - hardly a threat, but it gives him some incentinve to continue to put effort into hosting bots for alliances, hosting bot + chan for #scans and also getting people free scans...
Dunno why I respond to a troll like you but here it goes. He doesnt have 3k roids cause people attacked him(thank god), if he had gotten no proper incs(like he was hoping for) then 3k roids would be shit easy. Dunno what universe you're from if you think you need a shitload of roids to pay for amps, their not that expensive a few hundred roids and magma and ur basicly there. And I dont care how much he does for some alliances or community, appocomaster does alot aswell I havent been approached by him for a pnap lately.
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Dunno why I respond to a troll like you but here it goes. He doesnt have 3k roids cause people attacked him(thank god), if he had gotten no proper incs(like he was hoping for) then 3k roids would be shit easy. Dunno what universe you're from if you think you need a shitload of roids to pay for amps, their not that expensive a few hundred roids and magma and ur basicly there. And I dont care how much he does for some alliances or community, appocomaster does alot aswell I havent been approached by him for a pnap lately.

Well, I didn't see someone who does a larger bit for the community being cut some slack for once as a big issue.

But I guess, if you can be beaten down you should be beaten down
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Well, that's a rather silly expectation. As Forest said(!?), If you defend against someone, you're hostile to them. CT is completely in the right.
Defending against someone is not hostile, you're merely stopping their attack. Attacking someone is hostile.
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Defending against someone is not hostile, you're merely stopping their attack. Attacking someone is hostile.
What would you call it, then? Friendly?
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

When you agree to NAP (No Attack Policy) another alliance, the terms are usually that you cannot attack each other but you can defend against each other. Defending against another planet is not deemed hostile and does not break the terms of such agreements.

So to answer your question, it is neither hostile or friendly.
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

Pnaps are different though which is what mpulse had
Normally they would include no attacking or defending against the ally the pnap is with
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Re: A bit of fun...possibly?

A little update...

CT reversed their decision and put the pnap back in place, thanks to a very reasonable and understanding Monroe. Indeed it was never said that defence was not allowed so this allowed the nap to be restored.

Unfortunately Howling Rain are the last remaining alliance haven't established a nap. There was an indication from one of their reps that they would do it, but it was never confirmed. If anyone could get in contact it would be excellent!
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