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Unread 18 Sep 2005, 10:47   #1
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so we are getting a new government today

how is the market for IT jobs in UK or the netherlands? most likely i need to leave the country in disgust
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

If the SPD/Left win you would eventually have to leave anway if you want to continue working.
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If the SPD/Left win you would eventually have to leave anway if you want to continue working.
oh, please. as if the CDU could somehow magically create lots of jobs. are you also one of those people who think its Schröders fault that we have 5 million unemployed? well, its his fault that hes gonna lose this election. when you are in power you dont try to make the unemployment-statisitc more honest and add half a million people who were unemployed all along, but not part of the statistic.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

i think it is not that of a close race . yes schröder leads in the "sympathy"-rankings but he won 2 times with it already, dont think it will work a 3rd time. Still i dont believe that the politics of the opponents (CDU) is better in any way and will lead to employment.

Another quite important part is that i cannot imagine to see Mrs Merkel to play on the global politics and foreign affairs
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oh, please. as if the CDU could somehow magically create lots of jobs. are you also one of those people who think its Schröders fault that we have 5 million unemployed? well, its his fault that hes gonna lose this election. when you are in power you dont try to make the unemployment-statisitc more honest and add half a million people who were unemployed all along, but not part of the statistic.
What would you say is the reason for Germany's high unemploment rate?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

East Germany?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

yes, eastern germany. the number of underemplyoed people is somewhere around 6 million, it didnt change much in the last 10 years (which isnt so bad, given all the outsourcing to eastern europe). By OECD-standrads (people who work at least one hour per weak dont count as unemployed) things wouldnt look this bad.
tbh, i have no idea what to do about the unemployment, i dont think any government can do much. you certainly cant create growth in a country with a problem with domestic demand by increasing the VAT-rate by two percent and scaring people even more about their jobs. no matter how much you cut workers rights, we will never be able to directly compete with eastern europe.
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Why would you want to to move to the UK to escape some percieved threat of the introduction of Neo-Liberalism? Even if Merkel turns the entire German socio-economic model upside down, it'd still end up being much well-padded than the UK's.

In any case, I somehow doubt Merkel can make things worse in Germany. It would certainly bve quite an achievement if she did.
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i like Blair
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You must be the only person in the universe who does.
but seriously, if you live in a country as a foreigner, you dont need to concern yourself with that countries socio-economic model. i dont plan to live on your welfare state after all.
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i dont plan to live on your welfare state after all.
I'll hold you to that if you have a heart attack.

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Re: so we are getting a new government today

Looks like you get to stay in Germany, Wu.
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Looks like you get to stay in Germany, Wu.
the first prognosis dont mean much (remember 3 yeras ago?) besides, the CDU is still the strongest party, which means Merkel.
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I'm not sure what the precise result will be, but Schroeder certainly won't be staying in place as Chancellor. That would require a miracle if the opinion polls are to be believed. Merkel will be Chancellor; the question is simply what kind of government will she be heading.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

there is still the possibility of spd + greens + fdp, which is highly unlikely (and wont last for more than 1-2 years), but still more likely than cdu + greens + ftp
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

thatcheritte if our press is to be believed.

Plus I hear Michael Howard is looking for a job.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

I can hear my wife in the television room cursing about the elections and talking about moving back to the United States.
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there is still the possibility of spd + greens + fdp, which is highly unlikely (and wont last for more than 1-2 years), but still more likely than cdu + greens + ftp
It'll be CDU+FDP.
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It'll be CDU+FDP.
According to the numbers I just saw on tv, (i know they are not final), CDU and FDP do not have enough votes to form a government.
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thatcheritte if our press is to be believed.
I think most people are expecting Merkel to be too conservative, too unwilingly to really tackle the system head-on. That's the expectation. If she does go in for really ground-breaking Thatcheritre-style reforms then most people would be extremley surprised.
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According to the numbers I just saw on tv, (i know they are not final), CDU and FDP do not have enough votes to form a government.
I somehow doubt that will be the outcome. We shall see.
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Germany's Christian Democrats, led by Angela Merkel, have narrowly won Sunday's election, exit polls suggest.
However it is unclear whether Ms Merkel - who wants to introduce far-reaching reforms - has won enough support to form a government with Free Democrats.

Observers say she could be forced into a grand coalition with Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

http://stat.tagesschau.de/wahlarchiv...sh/index.shtml

What happens to the 4 percent "andere?" Do those seats get divided among the five parties that won seats?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

So which one is less shit?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

Is being a Christian a requisite for being a member of the Christian Democrats? No atheists, jews, muslims, polytheists, and agnostics allowed?
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Is being a Christian a requisite for being a member of the Christian Democrats? No atheists, jews, muslims, polytheists, and agnostics allowed?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

What are this Merkel woman's views on the EU?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

History has shown that when Germans are upset or poor they start a world war, so let's all chip in and give them some money so that they can improve their economy and not kill any of us.
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What are this Merkel woman's views on the EU?
biting back a comment about the Greater German Reich.
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So which one is less shit?
That's pretty much the way I vote as well.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

Blair apparently supported Merkel to win...
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

Does this seem familiar somehow?

Both sides claim victory after German election
Germany was thrown into political chaos on Sunday evening as the early federal election delivered a hung parliament and both chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Angela Merkel, his conservative challenger, claimed victory and the right to form the next government.
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Oh the years when it pays to be a minority party.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

The whole western world seems to be split between conservatism and liberalism. I say we have ourselves a war!

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Some other famous ideological oppostions in current events and history:

Islam vs Democracy *Middle East
Royalists vs Napoleonites *19th Century France
Oligarchs vs Democrats *Ancient Greece
Capitalists vs Communists * 20th Century
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Im amazed by how CDU and Merkel managed to loose so much in the last week or two.
Regarding the state of the economy, SPD must be pleased with the votes they have recived.
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Im amazed by how CDU and Merkel managed to loose so much in the last week or two.
Regarding the state of the economy, SPD must be pleased with the votes they have recived.
they really are and can currently act like the winners from the polls - they are 1% behind and imo they can/should question the result of the CDU and if it is right that they form the government even if it is their right as strongest party. They are clearly not the winner and lost a lot of ground in the last weeks. So why build something up that already lost faith from the ppl before the polls ?
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Im amazed by how CDU and Merkel managed to lose so much in the last week or two..
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What are this Merkel woman's views on the EU?
most likely to keep everything as it is, except that they are against turkey in the EU there isnt much of a difference between the two big parties.

im really looking forward to seeing what happens next. it seems no combination that could be even remotly stable is possible. even a grand coalition is unlikely, because Schröder said he wants to keep his job. i predict a new election within a year or so.
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Isnt it possible to have a goverment of SPD+the greens, with die linke as active backers?
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Isnt it possible to have a goverment of SPD+the greens, with die linke as active backers?
in theory yes, in practise its not, because if the SPD does such a thing, they are not going to get any votes in the west the next time (not even mine ), besides neither side wants this and if the tried it wouldnt last more than 4 weeks.
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im really looking forward to seeing what happens next. it seems no combination that could be even remotly stable is possible. even a grand coalition is unlikely, because Schröder said he wants to keep his job. i predict a new election within a year or so.
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Such a system works fine in Norway. You could have one party (or a coalition) in power, and then they have to reach out to one or more parties from case to case to get majority.
For most of the time after WWII, we have had such minoritygoverments.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

Schröder can still be elected as chancellor. Surely he has a chance because i am sure that the left party would rather like to see him as chancellor than Merkel. (SPD/Green/+some left > CDU/FDP). His chances are better than for Merkel as she kinda excludes both the "Greens" and the "Lefts". Then Schröder would be chancellor of a minority.

Anyway all is still open because both are only 2 seats different at the moment and there is still 1 poll in Dresden in 2 weeks (1 politician died there and polls are delayed for 2 weeks)

If the SPD wins that they can build the government on their own with 1 or 2 seats leading.
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

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Re: so we are getting a new government today

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Schröder can still be elected as chancellor. Surely he has a chance because i am sure that the left party would rather like to see him as chancellor than Merkel. (SPD/Green/+some left > CDU/FDP). His chances are better than for Merkel as she kinda excludes both the "Greens" and the "Lefts". Then Schröder would be chancellor of a minority.

Anyway all is still open because both are only 2 seats different at the moment and there is still 1 poll in Dresden in 2 weeks (1 politician died there and polls are delayed for 2 weeks)

If the SPD wins that they can build the government on their own with 1 or 2 seats leading.
if it wasnt for bavaria, things would be pretty clear ( http://www.n-tv.de/531158.html?page=es ).

now it looks like a grand coalition is the only option and the SPD said they wont do that with Schröder. so either the CDU kicks out Merkel (the people i know who voted CDU, did so despite of her, not because of her) or well just try again in a few weeks.

i dont think the left will tollerate the SPD, thats why they spilt up in the first place. they would demand things Schröder can't give them (roll back Harz IV, pull troops out of Afganistan, etc.), so they rather be in the opposition. That way they can bitch all day long about the solutions others offer instead of coming up with something on their own.

where are you from anyway?
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Re: so we are getting a new government today

a grand coalition then wu_trax,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4325600.stm

what thinks you? personally i believe that the CDU got the worse end of the deal, a minority in the miniterial make up combined with their leader in the hot seat. The SDP could make life very difficult for them whilst the 'blame' would shift to the CDU since they were the more 'visible'.
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