Round 20 Superpowers?

[qebab]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

whereas alliances such as ND and FO are usually a lot more cautious with regards to going to war etc.

Why do you pull things out of thin air? If you're going to start about FO, remember that the group only existed for the last bit of last round, and was at war without break from day 2 of it's existence, until a few days before the end of the round. ND didn't really hesitate to wage war either.

If anything involving FO is something FO "usually" do, or don't, it's based on what happened the last 2/3 weeks of last round. But sure!

FO is nearly the same as UN in any case, so they never wage war. At all.

Edit: And before you start spouting drivel about the HC being the same as the one from Angels or Omen or whatnot, it isn't.

[cura]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

Well, I thought of the memberbase of both alliances (CT being 1up/ND/LCH and LA supposedly being eXi/Dragons/LDK/Gosu)

I'm sitting here wondering what ND members CT has besides the 1up mercs of last round?

Originally Posted by horn

that, coupled with an ND HC leaving (i assume with some members) to form his own alliance, that is apparently attracting a lot of decent players, from an uninformed viewpoint (mine) it doesn't look that great for ND.

I'm sitting here wondering what ND HC is leaving to form his own alliance?

[Illuvatar]

Originally Posted by cura

I'm sitting here wondering what ND HC is leaving to form his own alliance?

he was refering to Angryduck leaving ND to form CT.

[cura]

Originally Posted by Antigone

he was refering to Angryduck leaving ND to form CT.

Yeah, I was just trying to point out that angryduck wasn't HC in a rather arrogant manner.

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by qebab

Why do you pull things out of thin air? If you're going to start about FO, remember that the group only existed for the last bit of last round, and was at war without break from day 2 of it's existence, until a few days before the end of the round. ND didn't really hesitate to wage war either.

Ok, let me clarify what I meant. In the history of Angels and Omen, I can't recall either alliance going to war within the first 2 weeks of the round because the alliance that they are targetting are the other main contenders - eXilition hit 1up from the 1st week in round 13 iirc and probably did the same in round 15 (I missed the first half) and round 18 (I dind't pay attention but knew of the war). Neither Angels nor Omen have done this, mainly because they would rather see their positions 2-3 weeks in before deciding to start a war. The same goes for ND. If anything, ND have been a little more reluctant to go to war in the past for political reasons (didn't hit 1up in round 14 when 1up hitting them was imminent, stayed out of the war during round 15)

Originally Posted by cura

I'm sitting here wondering what ND members CT has besides the 1up mercs of last round?

Religfree for one, and he's a self proclaimed Newdawn God. I can list at least one or two others if you'd like to PM me.

[jerome]

**** me, 3 total...and religfree was fo last round as well, IT'S AN ND EXODUS

[_Kila_]

I was actually referring to the ND guys who left with Duck there btw jer, but since cura decided to get a little arsey about it, I pointed out that there are ex-ND members there too.

[jerome]

yes...you didn't state any. religfree wasn't nd last round.

[_Kila_]

Oh right, and not being ND last round changes the fact that he is an ex-ND player.

[cura]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

Religfree for one, and he's a self proclaimed Newdawn God. I can list at least one or two others if you'd like to PM me.

he left like... 4 rounds ago? won't be too far off, he left when DLR left

Originally Posted by _Kila_

I was actually referring to the ND guys who left with Duck there btw jer, but since cura decided to get a little arsey about it, I pointed out that there are ex-ND members there too.

Originally Posted by _Kila_

Oh right, and not being ND last round changes the fact that he is an ex-ND player.

there's ex-ND members everywhere, happens when an alliance exists since rnd 1 :/

[_Kila_]

hey, you asked me what ex-ND members there were in CT, I told you.
Relig also HCed for you in Round 17

[Tietäjä]

Originally Posted by cura

he left like... 4 rounds ago? won't be too far off, he left when DLR left

Yeah. I reckon Dork Lords left ND after round 17, so 4 rounds is slightly exaggerating, but only by two rounds!

[cura]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

hey, you asked me what ex-ND members there were in CT, I told you.
Relig also HCed for you in Round 17

Semantics, helping ignorants defend their opinion since 1857.

Oh, and relig HCed the same way you ppl claim duck HCed, I doubt it was rnd 17 tho, more like rnd 15

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

Yeah. I reckon Dork Lords left ND after round 17, so 4 rounds is slightly exaggerating, but only by two rounds!

hmm I'm thinking it was after rnd 15, since I HCed round 16 cause of the absence of DLR in command team

but since my memory is completely absent it's possible they played round 17 tho, but in my eyes they left ND after 15 since they refused to play in rnd 16

(edit: not claiming any of this except the semantics and the rnd 16 part is surely right, i blame my shite memory)

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by cura

Oh, and relig HCed the same way you ppl claim duck HCed, I doubt it was rnd 17 tho, more like rnd 15

Relig clearly states in his forums signature that he HCed for ND in round 17, Keizari has also told me on many occasions that he had spoken to Religfree as ND military HC during round 17. I think you fail dude.

Originally Posted by cura

hmm I'm thinking it was after rnd 15, since I HCed round 16 cause of the absence of DLR in command team

but since my memory is completely absent it's possible they played round 17 tho, but in my eyes they left ND after 15 since they refused to play in rnd 16

DLR played as a solo alliance for round 16 as they were attempting to xp whore, I wasn't around in round 17 to see if they had returned, but Religfree appears to have been HCing.

[cura]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

Relig clearly states in his forums signature that he HCed for ND in round 17, Keizari has also told me on many occasions that he had spoken to Religfree as ND military HC during round 17. I think you fail dude.

yeah he always claimed he HCed rnd17, I remember a post on our HC boards that was aimed against relig for that talk with keizari without him being HC tho
I don't fail on that part, you do.

Originally Posted by _Kila_

DLR played as a solo alliance for round 16 as they were attempting to xp whore, I wasn't around in round 17 to see if they had returned, but Religfree appears to have been HCing.

they prolly did "return" but relig didn't HC that round.

[Tietäjä]

Originally Posted by cura

they prolly did "return" but relig didn't HC that round.

Wrong.

ReligFree was, according to how he represented himself to me, ND Military High Command that round. I'm pretty good at these, taking into account ND and Insomnia were the main alliances I used to have talks with during incidents and the strings of unfortunate events related to round 17. It was Omen's first round, and my memory is crystal. I can probably dig off my old computer, once I get home, a log, were ReligFree says he is ND military HC.

The haziness of your memory can be even further supported by the fact that you have trouble remembering DLR in ND - there was Grog, Troll, and McFun let alone in that one gal (13:7?) that involved another big cath too, Satyr. Dear.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by cura

they prolly did "return" but relig didn't HC that round.

religfree was ND Military HC that round, he was the person i dealt with during cooperation with ND in round 17.

[themast]

Originally Posted by cura

they prolly did "return" but relig didn't HC that round.

Cura, Reilg did HC for ND in that rd so dont go digging a bigger hole that you cant get out of

[Squidly]

So... uhh... am I right in reading this lot that a bunch are arguing about someone who HC'd 2-3 rounds ago, in order to support a theory that 3 people who were once ND who aren't ND anymore is a mass exodus apparently dooming ND?

Seriously guys, do you not have something better to argue about?

Kila appears to have some interesting theories about what a mass exodus is, Keizari appears to need to be right or else his delicate ego gets battered, and cura appears to have the memory of a goldfish ( <3 ) ....

Am I missing something here?

[cura]

I'm still convinced he didn't HC tho :P

[Mek]

Originally Posted by cura

I'm still convinced he didn't HC tho :P

stop....please stop cura :P

[cura]

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

The haziness of your memory can be even further supported by the fact that you have trouble remembering DLR in ND - there was Grog, Troll, and McFun let alone in that one gal (13:7?) that involved another big cath too, Satyr. Dear.

I didn't say my memory is awesome (like I am) tho, I do remember Troll, McFun and Grog in ND now you say it. Satyr never was ND tho.
But I honestly can't remember relig, my reasoning is I would've remembered him that round because I don't get along with him. I remember Troll because of a fall out I had with him, but relig was nowhere to be seen at that point :/

Either way, my life doesn't depend on being right or wrong here just fyi (everybody knows I'm wrong alot, I've gotten used to it), I just need something to do till 18:30

[ReligFree]

I Hc'd for 85% of that round. Gate started off as mili HC then after his round 14/15/16 got burnt out very quickly and i ended up running things and being promoted to HC. And that NewDawn god avatar thing is just me being too lazy to change it for the past year.

Regards.

[aNgRyDuCk]

just to shed some light....Assassin and I probably coordinated the majority of ND's attacks last round, Barrow ofcourse did a lot as well, so that's basically 2 of the 3 active attack officers gone. I wasn't HC last round, my position was basically in support of TheMast (attacks dept XO) who served as the Military HC, however due to real life he had some issues with activity, leading to him stepping down with a couple weeks left in the round. So as a result my duties required me to step up and handle the attacks department for a good amount of the round. Someone will have to step up and carry that load...as Barrow can't do it alone.

a good number of the long time ND core players will still play for ND in round 20. We recruited a few people (the non 1up players) into CT but it's not a staggering amount of ppl. We've also declined 2 or 3 ND players applications. So basically, it wasn't a jail break of ND players moving to CT.

In round 19...ND fell victim to the same thing they always do, inactivity towards the end of the round. Anyone who discounts, or under-estimates ND is a fool...as they always seem to be able to muster a formidable group of attack planets. Are they a threat to win? Sure, if a lot of things happen in their favor, like any other round..... They are as much a threat as anyone

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

Yeah. I reckon Dork Lords left ND after round 17, so 4 rounds is slightly exaggerating, but only by two rounds!

I can honestly say it is the only BG that has seriously deprive me of sleep.
I wonder whats happen to troll and co these days?

[Tietäjä]

Two or three attack officers, especially if they were playing a major role, are something that can become very difficult to replace.

Originally Posted by cura

I didn't say my memory is awesome (like I am) tho, I do remember Troll, McFun and Grog in ND now you say it. Satyr never was ND tho.

Yeah, Satyr was 1up. It was, though, a gal packed with DLR. As a top planet Satyr just makes a good point to clinge to!

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by Squidly

Kila appears to have some interesting theories about what a mass exodus is

All I did was point out that CT was partly made up of ex-ND members (members from last round like the 1up mercs and other members from the past few rounds)

[ReligFree]

Originally Posted by Paisley

I can honestly say it is the only BG that has seriously deprive me of sleep.
I wonder whats happen to troll and co these days?

Grog still plays, McFun is MIA but i sent him a happy new years msg at 4am this morning so we'l see if we get a response, Troll still plays but has been moving around cities working hard, Zebra still plays and was top20 most of last round, Edgars still playing hardcore. And yes Pais was muchos fun recall resending

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by ReligFree

Grog still plays, McFun is MIA but i sent him a happy new years msg at 4am this morning so we'l see if we get a response, Troll still plays but has been moving around cities working hard, Zebra still plays and was top20 most of last round, Edgars still playing hardcore. And yes Pais was muchos fun recall resending

It is a pity that DLR disolved. Who knows whats the odds of a reunion tour? (no bad r14 pun intented)

[Rocklobster[Dok]]

we will win

[Satyr]

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

The haziness of your memory can be even further supported by the fact that you have trouble remembering DLR in ND - there was Grog, Troll, and McFun let alone in that one gal (13:7?) that involved another big cath too, Satyr. Dear.

Hey, I still remember your coords 9:5:6
It was 16:7

[Tietäjä]

Yeah, and Bob was 9:5:7.

Good old times, or less old times, but anyways good 1up cathies <3

[Paisley]

was this r14 or r15?

[Tietäjä]

17 of course. The round we roided you with robban and toot, right before the masses of DLR fleets appeared. Trust me, it was rather amusing to stay up at night and launch fleets at you, and see how DLR was piling up on prelaunch for hours and hours.

I remember toot semi-stressing if he'd still be able to throw one wave at you before DLR actually launches. He was. I bet DLR was amused too when they noticed a lot of the roids had gone piss poof before they landed. Ohh, the times. There were like hundreds of thousands of ND/DLR frigates there. I think that was a retribution for the landing BS suicide at Troll's incident?

[ReligFree]

That and for owning Grog couple of days before hand.

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

17 of course. The round we roided you with robban and toot, right before the masses of DLR fleets appeared. Trust me, it was rather amusing to stay up at night and launch fleets at you, and see how DLR was piling up on prelaunch for hours and hours.

I remember toot semi-stressing if he'd still be able to throw one wave at you before DLR actually launches. He was. I bet DLR was amused too when they noticed a lot of the roids had gone piss poof before they landed. Ohh, the times. There were like hundreds of thousands of ND/DLR frigates there. I think that was a retribution for the landing BS suicide at Troll's incident?

I recall a convosation with chronox with this he asked me why didnt I get those DLR waves covered (argubly) but would have left subh near defless that night whilst subh/hr was still seeing off angels... at that point my duties as a HC for subh gave way to personal rank. That I should not def drain the ally (before relig says what about r14... I was only a peon/MO for reunion and was allowed to do so )
It was due to me having a DLR spoof banner up in my gal "do lovely recalls" (good old badd and his paintshop pro)
using the old SKULL banner (still brings a chuckle now and then) that I had seen from r14/15. That provoked the mass dlr wave... toot was bullet proof due to his gal at that point and it was only damage limitation for salvage with the "how many chims" can I raise at that point... I didnt loose much fleet that was the main thing.

as for DLR I didnt let that go... troll's cr fleet said hello to my de fleet and got his 15% salvage back and one other DLR/ND member got a visit aswell... I will be the first to admit I miss DLR not playing these days.
I had you pretty worried for part of r18

edit- I was corrected im pm that it was do lovely recalls and not duck licking retards.

[Tietäjä]

Oh, yeah, definately. R18 gave me some gray hair, but it was pretty much fun to run attacks on Escape when I was a scanner. I forever remember the day when BA popped by at #Omen to talk about his 18 BS waves (where in fact there were 8 waves, of which 2 were BS, of which one was 40 BS - which eventually capped BA, mainly because his anti-battleships were defending against adi/bure's cruisers disguised as BS).

Oh yeah. Though, you really fubared Subh that round, didn't you now. It didn't become too great a round for Escape or xVx either, spose we eventually pulled the better end of the stick at the Omen end of it.

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

spose we eventually pulled the better end of the stick at the Omen end of it.

And credit due to you and your command crew

[Tietäjä]

I will hold you on on this one Paisley, I took a screenshot of it and I'm about to burn the shot on a DVD to ensure it never dies.

[Paisley]

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showpo...&postcount=518 took me a while to find it but it is not the first time.

[Tietäjä]

You win

[ReligFree]

Hehe Pais my memorys not good enough to claim with any certainty anything about individual planets in round 14.

[Kargool]

Ah yes, round 18 and Teddy's ta's on Escape pwned. Teddy_Bear were the one who should get the credit for most of them raids.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by Kargool

Ah yes, round 18 and Teddy's ta's on Escape pwned. Teddy_Bear were the one who should get the credit for most of them raids.

Teddy is a brilliant BC. first played with him in HR and thats what made me recruit him as a BC to InSomnia round 17. clearly he deserves more credit than he gets for his work

[Kargool]

Originally Posted by Mek

Teddy is a brilliant BC. first played with him in HR and thats what made me recruit him as a BC to InSomnia round 17. clearly he deserves more credit than he gets for his work

Everyone who is able to organise raids like the three nights he did on Escape is an alliance most important asset.

[Paisley]

teddy/teddy_bear as in ex reunion (r14) player?

[Tietäjä]

Originally Posted by Kargool

Everyone who is able to organise raids like the three nights he did on Escape is an alliance most important asset.

Definately, it was great working with him at that time. Wonder how he eventually disappeared - and if for good.

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by Kargool

Everyone who is able to organise raids like the three nights he did on Escape is an alliance most important asset.

care to elaborate on how his raids were good etc?

[Tietäjä]

Well, I think the barebone of how we were hitting Escape round 18 was roughly me running a mix of fakes and reals (mainly of zikonian players, who had those de/cr/bs fleets) early night on certain picked planets (alexis was a bloody brilliant defsoak, he'd get four defence fleets per every one defence fleet an average escape member would get), and retaliating the defender planets.

Meanwhile, Teddy_Bear was organizing waved attacks on the "normal" focus on pushing as much fleet out as per tick for a later time. I guess where he exceled, was, that we had a sufficiently obedient material not to whinge and to do what was told to, most of the time, and he had a good sense of orchestrating it so that the waves were well placed and the pressure was over the two or so key ticks.

[_Kila_]

you know, I like the way that you mention alexis as a defsink when the biggest defsink of round 18 was, undoubtedly, Atom_Smasher who was also Escape!