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Super · 2 Nov 2003, 03:20

It's best not to click any links in IRC that have jpg on the end - a particuarly nasty virus going around that nothing seems to pick up.

Super · 2 Nov 2003, 03:24

Btw if you do get it, the only way around it so far is to reinstall windows - it corrupts many system files and kills the registry.

Scoot951 · 2 Nov 2003, 05:38

I got hit by this one last week when some of my SS alliance's HC was pasting it around without knowing what it was. Exploits some javascript flaw, might just work on IE but it gets past firewalls and AV apparently.

I had to reformat, lost pretty much everything.

Ra · 2 Nov 2003, 05:45

heh, IE blows, ill look into the virus anyway though.

LHC · 2 Nov 2003, 13:08

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...al/3462524.htm
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99522.htm

Weeks · 2 Nov 2003, 16:54

use firebird then it's ace

Weeks · 2 Nov 2003, 17:01

Looks like it's mostly lies.
http://features.slashdot.org/article...thread&tid=166

Scoot951 · 2 Nov 2003, 17:21

So my computer dying was my imagination then?

Edit: It looks like this Perrun is something else.

Leshy · 2 Nov 2003, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Scoot951

So my computer dying was my imagination then?

A .jpeg file itself simply cannot contain a virus, as there is no code in it being executed.

If your computer died after opening a .jpg file, then either you were redirected to a malicious script (probably ActiveX) which buggered up your computer, or you already had a virus which was triggered by opening that .jpg file.

Bloomers III · 2 Nov 2003, 22:24

****ing stupid geeks why can't they just do something useful like study physics rather than **** up people's computers. twats.

Super · 3 Nov 2003, 00:02

Leshy, wanna try clicking the url to the jpg?

Dante Hicks · 3 Nov 2003, 00:20

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Infected JPEGs are unable to replicate on non-infected machines - ie. machines without the extractor component installed (hooked in the Registry).

From one of the linked articles posted.

Super · 3 Nov 2003, 00:28

Wasn't there a galaxy in a round of planetarion that had something embedded in their galaxy pic that tracked people who viewed it?

Dante Hicks · 3 Nov 2003, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Super

Wasn't there a galaxy in a round of planetarion that had something embedded in their galaxy pic that tracked people who viewed it?

That was done via the hosting server, not anything to do with the picture itself (afaik).

pablissimo · 3 Nov 2003, 01:00

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Originally Posted by Super

Leshy, wanna try clicking the url to the jpg?

The file extension at the server end doesn't necessarily reflect the data you'd be receiving. You could feasibly have your web server send HTML data instead for instance. Javascript worms ahoy that way.

Nodrog · 3 Nov 2003, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Super

Wasn't there a galaxy in a round of planetarion that had something embedded in their galaxy pic that tracked people who viewed it?

They just checked the IP's in the server logs of those who viewed it...

3 Nov 2003, 07:20

nono

it "tracked" and showed what people were surfing the interweb for!!

the dying puppy · 6 Nov 2003, 20:14

the worst thing that after scanning/removing/whatever for that virus I cant connect that PC to the internet anymore :0(

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 20:17

I loaded the page, didn't catch it.

TAKE THAT ACTIVEX

Leshy · 6 Nov 2003, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Super

Leshy, wanna try clicking the url to the jpg?

Seeing as Opera generally doesn't react to ActiveX exploits, I wouldn't be too worried. Even then, it's an ActiveX exploit that you could use any file for. The fact that it's activated by linking to a .jpg doesn't suddenly make it a .jpg virus.

the dying puppy · 6 Nov 2003, 22:45

Why noone can't explain to me why I can't connect to the Internet now?

Leshy · 6 Nov 2003, 22:46

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Originally Posted by the dying puppy

Why noone can't explain to me why I can't connect to the Internet now?

You're connected to the Internet.

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 22:48

'Somethings wrong with my computer, fix it!'

It helps to have, you know, information?

W · 6 Nov 2003, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Leshy

A .jpeg file itself simply cannot contain a virus, as there is no code in it being executed.

Welcome to the world of buffer overflows.

the dying puppy · 6 Nov 2003, 22:57

ummph what kinda information would you like to know?

All I know is after scaning my PC for viruses ( which weren't found (or at least that what "they" were told me)) my PC went tits up. I mean, everything seems to be working "fine" but I can't connect to the Internet. Every single time I open browser I get "this page cannot be displayed".

Oh yeah, I already reinstalled Windows, I turned on and off cable router, I switched cables with another PCs and it still doesnt work.

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 22:58

Try installing the network?

AllFather|away · 6 Nov 2003, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshy

A .jpeg file itself simply cannot contain a virus, as there is no code in it being executed.

If your computer died after opening a .jpg file, then either you were redirected to a malicious script (probably ActiveX) which buggered up your computer, or you already had a virus which was triggered by opening that .jpg file.

heh, there is no problem whatsoever hiding a exe file (or other) in a picture file.

I done it manytimes before, and it works like a charm.

Example: i wanted to scare the shit out of a friend of mine, so i wrapped a picture of a naked girl around a little script that was a trojan. When he recived the file, he loaded it and saw it as a normal picture, but at the same time he opened it, i got a icq message telling me his ip and other assorted information.

He called me all freaked out 20 minutes later when his mouse started moving all over, his keyboard was typing, programs opening and shutting etc, after a while i told him what i did, then i told him how to get the nasty thing off his computer.

Its a simple simple thing aslong as you know what your doing, so what you are saying you dutch midget is untrue

W · 6 Nov 2003, 22:59

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Originally Posted by the dying puppy

ummph what kinda information would you like to know?

All I know is after scaning my PC for viruses ( which weren't found (or at least that what "they" were told me)) my PC went tits up. I mean, everything seems to be working "fine" but I can't connect to the Internet. Every single time I open browser I get "this page cannot be displayed".

Oh yeah, I already reinstalled Windows, I turned on and off cable router, I switched cables with another PCs and it still doesnt work.

Call your ISP's support phone.

the dying puppy · 6 Nov 2003, 23:03

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Originally Posted by W

Call your ISP's support phone.

I'll do that when I get back.

W · 6 Nov 2003, 23:04

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

heh, there is no problem whatsoever hiding a exe file (or other) in a picture file.

I done it manytimes before, and it works like a charm.

Example: i wanted to scare the shit out of a friend of mine, so i wrapped a picture of a naked girl around a little script that was a trojan. When he recived the file, he loaded it and saw it as a normal picture, but at the same time he opened it, i got a icq message telling me his ip and other assorted information.

He called me all freaked out 20 minutes later when his mouse started moving all over, his keyboard was typing, programs opening and shutting etc, after a while i told him what i did, then i told him how to get the nasty thing off his computer.

Its a simple simple thing aslong as you know what your doing, so what you are saying you dutch midget is untrue

No. Go away.

AllFather|away · 6 Nov 2003, 23:06

Denial aint a river in egypt you norwegian muppet

W · 6 Nov 2003, 23:10

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

Denial aint a river in egypt you norwegian muppet

There is no way to "hide an exe in a jpg file". Hide binary code, sure, that MIGHT be executed, if opened in specific program X, with bug Y.

You're probably a script kiddie thinking he's clever for renaming dropper.exe to britney.jpg.exe

AllFather|away · 6 Nov 2003, 23:14

no, you can hide a exe in a jpg file, and no im not a script kiddy, and im prolly older then most people here

It has nothing to do with renaming a file, it has to do with editing code. Everything is about code.

Its not that hard to spot though, if a jpg picture is a small small picture of a girl, and its 2-300kb big, then there´s something dodgy..

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 23:14

Odin is no script kiddie!

Super · 6 Nov 2003, 23:14

script kiddie

W · 6 Nov 2003, 23:17

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

no, you can hide a exe in a jpg file, and no im not a script kiddy, and im prolly older then most people here

It has nothing to do with renaming a file, it has to do with editing code. Everything is about code.

Its not that hard to spot though, if a jpg picture is a small small picture of a girl, and its 2-300kb big, then there´s something dodgy..

Bet you can't name a programming language I can't code with less than 10 tries.

I say you have no idea what you are talking about, and are trying to appear mysterious and knowledgeable by making shit up.

I'll view any jpg you link to, come on, highjack my account and post something for me

AllFather|away · 6 Nov 2003, 23:22

why would i want to make something that messes with your computer?
Most computers nowdays wont be affected due to the fact people are carefull with what they do, they also got virus scanners, firewalls with high security,and they aint running windows 95 like we used to have fun with

Im quite sure your quite good with coding, asfar as i know, your one of the resident nerds of this forums, i myself im not very good with hardcoding, bar from some knowlage in vb.net/wb/java & c++ i had to do for my old job a few years when iwas workingas a networks administrator (and times were slow)

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 23:22

Brain****, Dylan, Tcl, Ruby, Erlang?

W · 6 Nov 2003, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllFather|away

why would i want to make something that messes with your computer?
Most computers nowdays wont be affected due to the fact people are carefull with what they do, they also got virus scanners, firewalls with high security,and they aint running windows 95 like we used to have fun with

Im quite sure your quite good with coding, asfar as i know, your one of the resident nerds of this forums, i myself im not very good with hardcoding, bar from some knowlage in vb.net/wb/java & c++ i had to do for my old job a few years when iwas workingas a networks administrator (and times were slow)

Script kiddie.

AllFather|away · 6 Nov 2003, 23:27

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Originally Posted by W

Script kiddie.

if you say you are, i wont stop you

MrL should download :
Super Furry Animals - Sex War robots

Ragnarak · 6 Nov 2003, 23:27

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

why would i want to make something that messes with your computer?

to prove that you're not talking bullshit

oh wai...

MrL_JaKiri · 6 Nov 2003, 23:31

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Originally Posted by W

Bet you can't name a programming language I can't code with less than 10 tries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Brain****, Dylan, Tcl, Ruby, Erlang?

Leshy · 6 Nov 2003, 23:44

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Originally Posted by W

Welcome to the world of buffer overflows.

Hm, I dunno if it'd be possible to exploit a buffer overflow in a pure data-file with virtually no maximum size, but then I'm not a programmer, so I don't know too much about buffer overflows.

Even then, you'd need for the recipient to open it in a program specifically vulnerable to a buffer overflow, so it's still not a surefire way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllFather|away

you can hide a exe in a jpg file

Yes, and I once hid a Stealth B-52 under my bed.

AllFather|away · 7 Nov 2003, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Leshy

Yes, and I once hid a Stealth B-52 under my bed.

Wow, amazing

W · 7 Nov 2003, 03:17

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

...

Not YOU stupid, I don't doubt YOUR knowledge (or google skills) when it comes to languages.

Oh and 2/5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshy

Hm, I dunno if it'd be possible to exploit a buffer overflow in a pure data-file with virtually no maximum size, but then I'm not a programmer, so I don't know too much about buffer overflows.

Even then, you'd need for the recipient to open it in a program specifically vulnerable to a buffer overflow, so it's still not a surefire way.

Oh it's far from surefire, in fact I can't think of a reasonable application at all. But your statement that there is no code to be executed in a jpg file isn't completely accurate, and that's what I corrected. Buffer overflows is just the most well known way of getting data to run as code.

the dying puppy · 7 Nov 2003, 04:35

anyway...
my computer still without internet connection.
ISP - fixers people already went home.
I'm going through mild depression.
I still have no idea what that virus called and if I had it in the first place.
I thought I would inform you, since all of you were so curious.

MrL_JaKiri · 7 Nov 2003, 10:55

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Originally Posted by W

Not YOU stupid, I don't doubt YOUR knowledge (or google skills) when it comes to languages.

Oh and 2/5

Which ones?

Leshy · 7 Nov 2003, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by W

But your statement that there is no code to be executed in a jpg file isn't completely accurate, and that's what I corrected. Buffer overflows is just the most well known way of getting data to run as code.

Fair enough.

I know that it is possible to run data as code by using a buffer overflow vulnerability, for example in email headers. But that's works because a certain part contain more data than the program can handle, resulting in the remaining data to be tossed in with the program code, and being executed.

With image files, text files and such pure data files not having a maximal size, it would seem unlikely that a program would be vulnerable to a buffer overflow in this regard, but I could be wrong.

MrL_JaKiri · 7 Nov 2003, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshy

With image files, text files and such pure data files not having a maximal size, it would seem unlikely that a program would be vulnerable to a buffer overflow in this regard, but I could be wrong.

Well, they have a maximal size dictated by the hard drive format, but this is obviously not what you meant.

JetLinus · 7 Nov 2003, 12:03

How ridiculous... Pfffffft "jpeg being a virus".
I say "show me", simply as that.

Honestly, please stop being serious about this one...