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Unread 19 Jul 2006, 13:55   #1
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christ, get a life

so, as many of you know, i work in a library. I have just witnessed the single most pathetic thing EVER.

we have various signs in the building 'fiction' 'non-fiction' and others of that ilk.


one of these signs reads: DVD's


now, this is wrong, it SHOULD read DVDS if we were being properly correct, but that looked silly, as did DVDs, so we put the apostrophie in.

this sign has been in place for nearly 5 years


we have just had a customer completely kick off, in the middle of the library, about it being incorrectly spelt, and demand to know how to make a formal complaint to the county council about our incorrect use of apostrophies...


seriously... GET A ****ING LIFE YOU OLD BAG

in what scheme of things is an incorrectly placed apostrophie grounds for a formal complaint (a complaint, may i add, that will require a formal investigation by an officer of the council, and will waste resources and man hours like they were going out of fashion)


i blame lynne truss.
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Re: christ, get a life

lol , seems you have yourself a serial complainer
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Re: christ, get a life

Just say it stands for Dick Van Dyke and that area of the library is dedicated to him for his stirring performance in Mary Poppins.
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Re: christ, get a life

"yes we know, and we're waiting for the replacement sign to be installed" would have fobbed her off.

or "you'll be dead soon, what's it to you?"
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Re: christ, get a life

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or "you'll be dead soon, what's it to you?"
Or just say the first half of that sentence and tail off while staring her in the eyes menacingly.
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Re: christ, get a life

was it jakiri?
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Re: christ, get a life

Tbh I do see the persons point. The point being perfectly summed up by yourself

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In a world where our native languages are being eroded by things like text speak our libraries should be the last place to see the English language being butchered. Yes it may be unfair to hold libraries to a higher degree just because they are a place which showcases the English language but they have a responsibility to ensure that their use of language is correct.

So it may be petty and it may be a waste of time and energy to investigate it but she does have a bit of a point.
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I'm gonna maybe end up working in a library too. :0
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Re: christ, get a life

I get these people sometimes at phone at my work. I just laugh or make them feel silly. Laughing (Like an old wizzard) while asking if he's serious followed by a disconnection is the most fun.
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Re: christ, get a life

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You shold have said "NO! This apostrophe implies ownership. This sign belongs to the DVDs, so stfu!"
Ah but then it would be DVDs'.
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we have just had a customer completely kick off, in the middle of the library about it being incorrectly spelt
shouldn't you all have said "SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" and given her a dirty look?
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Re: christ, get a life

You should have told them that due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it's libraries.*





* and then said that when you said "it's" as in "it's libraries" there wasn't actually an apostrophe there because like you said the council can't afford them.
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You should have told them that due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it's libraries.*





* and then said that when you said "it's" as in "it's libraries" there wasn't actually an apostrophe there because like you said the council can't afford them.
I'm really confused as to whether this was superb irony or the deranged ravings of a complete moron.
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You should have told them that due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it's libraries.*

* and then said that when you said "it's" as in "it's libraries" there wasn't actually an apostrophe there because like you said the council can't afford them.
The problem was the presence, not the lack, of said apostrophe. Furthermore, that should be "its libraries" unless you think Northern people would say "due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it is libraries".

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shouldn't you all have said "SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" and given her a dirty look?
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The problem was the presence, not the lack, of said apostrophe. Furthermore, that should be "its libraries" unless you think Northern people would say "due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it is libraries".
Compared to poor old rr, in Scotland they have MORE than enough money for apostrophes! So much so that they'll throw them into any old context!
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I deal with people like the old lady everyday. There is little you can do but change the sign because she will cause a stink until its done. Some people just want things a certain way and they will do anything to see it done. This DVD sign is now her purpose in life since she probably did not have one before.
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I deal with people like the old lady everyday. There is little you can do but change the sign because she will cause a stink until its done. Some people just want things a certain way and they will do anything to see it done. This DVD sign is now her purpose in life since she probably did not have one before.
MAybe that's how things are done in America, but in England things are different as most Englishmen are non-confrontational (except Northaners, but they don't count)
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MAybe that's how things are done in America, but in England things are different as most Englishmen are non-confrontational (except Northaners, but they don't count)
What about Englishwomen?
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I'm really confused as to whether this was superb irony or the deranged ravings of a complete moron.


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as superb as george bush's irony regarding syria?
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funny that everyone assumes that the customer was a woman
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funny that everyone assumes that the customer was a woman
95% of the customers of the average libraries are old women.
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Tbh I do see the persons point. The point being perfectly summed up by yourself



In a world where our native languages are being eroded by things like text speak our libraries should be the last place to see the English language being butchered. Yes it may be unfair to hold libraries to a higher degree just because they are a place which showcases the English language but they have a responsibility to ensure that their use of language is correct.

So it may be petty and it may be a waste of time and energy to investigate it but she does have a a bit of a point.
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funny that everyone assumes that the customer was a woman


"old bag" is generally a term used to refer to an annoying old woman
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Re: christ, get a life

I actually agree with the customer. Not that I'd ever bother making a complaint or even comment about it.

I'd probably just think, 'Ha! How ironic'.
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Re: christ, get a life

You have some viable options.

You could put a blob of duct tape over the apostrophe which will make the sign look like shit. It will probably cause the crone to have another fit because the sign isn't neat. Then you could play the poverty card.

or

It will cause others to complain and you can then remove the duct tape and when she complains again you tell her that you had fixed it but others had complained and you had to revert to the original form.

Another possibility would be to leave the sign alone and add apostrophes to every other sign in the library. Fiction's, non-fiction's. Then when she complains you tell her, "Oh. I'm sorry I thought you said there weren't enough apostrophes. My mistake but then we haven't the budget to replace all of the signs again."

or

You could redo the sign to read DVD'z.
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Re: christ, get a life

You should buy a pot of paint and sort it out. You can still hate the old lady the rest of her life and make it hell though. Whenever she gets a book out find out the ending and tell her (indirectly, have a conversation about it when she's in close earshot or somethign). It would be great, you could destroy her soul.

Or you could just let it go, either/or.
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Tippex!

PS next time she takes a book out and returns it don't scan it in properly so it looks like she hasn't returned it, then she'll be charged VAST sums of money for it (like 67p!)
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Re: christ, get a life

i have to alter the sign on fiday morning, unfortunately, removing the apostrophie will take a good bit of paint from the wall and i wont be able to re-paint it until sunday so there is going to be a gaping gap on the wall until then


wakey: as i said, we knew it was a mistake, it was however, a lot more work to correct it that to just leave it there as no one had a problem with it until now
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Another possibility would be to leave the sign alone and add apostrophes to every other sign in the library. Fiction's, non-fiction's. Then when she complains you tell her, "Oh. I'm sorry I thought you said there weren't enough apostrophes. My mistake but then we haven't the budget to replace all of the signs again."
This one. But then go further. Photocopy hundreds of giant apostrophes and stick them to every surface, tables, chairs, books, shelves, the ceiling. Then arrange a number of books in a pentagram shape around the main desk, stand proudly atop it books and shelves aflame, your body naked but for a loin-cloth and a giant (and backward) apostrophe emblem drawn on your chest and stomach by stamping yourself strategically with the inky date stamp device, screaming primally and holding the head of your nemesis by its hair, soggy neck-bits dripping into the fire.

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Re: christ, get a life

You could have said that you were following the New York Times' style guide. Although that might not have worked.
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PS next time she takes a book out and returns it don't scan it in properly so it looks like she hasn't returned it, then she'll be charged VAST sums of money for it (like 67p!)


heh, 67p? you wish, due to govt cuts (at the same time as demanding that we spend more of said budget on books, go figure) our overdue fees are now or the wrong side of high :/ i have seen people with book fines alone of over £100
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...stand proudly atop it books and shelves aflame, your body naked but for a loin-cloth and a giant (and backward) apostrophe emblem drawn on your chest and stomach by stamping yourself strategically with the inky date stamp device, screaming primally and holding the head of your nemesis by its hair, soggy neck-bits dripping into the fire.

Yeah.
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heh, 67p? you wish, due to govt cuts (at the same time as demanding that we spend more of said budget on books, go figure) our overdue fees are now or the wrong side of high :/ i have seen people with book fines alone of over £100
Get on it then!
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one of these signs reads: DVD's
Are you sure it's not allowed?

The wikipedia article linked just says DVDs is more common than DVD's nowadays. Not that it matters much, but in Norwegian we do use the apostrophe atleast (DVD'er)

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The traditional style of pluralizing single letters with the addition of ’s (for example, B’s come after A’s) was extended to some of the earliest initialisms, which tended to be written with periods to indicate the omission of letters; some writers still pluralize initialisms in this way. [...]

However, it has become common among many writers to inflect initialisms as ordinary words,, using simple s, without an apostrophe, for the plural. In this case, compact discs becomes CDs. The logic here is that the apostrophe should be restricted to possessives: for example, the CD’s label (the label of the compact disc).
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Which correction?
Well, if you're pedantic and make mistakes and noone notices then there's a level of irony there, but as noone notices it may as well not exist.

If you're pedantic, make mistakes and someone DOES notice, then I don't see any inconsistency if you actually made an honest mistake and accept that.

You know, what you were talking about?
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one of these signs reads: DVD's


now, this is wrong, it SHOULD read DVDS if we were being properly correct, but that looked silly, as did DVDs, so we put the apostrophie in.
Make your life easier by removing all but one DVD, and then use a sign saying DVD.
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You should have told them that due to underfunding the local council could no longer afford apostrophes in it's libraries.*
Could also be due to the underfunding of the public school system, thus they did not know better.
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Make your life easier by removing all but one DVD, and then use a sign saying DVD.
But that gets rid of half their stock!
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But that gets rid of half their stock!


oi you cheeky get, we have over 1k DVD's in stock and a budget of... 3k this year (iirc) for more, as i am in charge of said budget we also have the best selection of manga in the county
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Wait, isn't manga a fruit?
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Wait, isn't manga a fruit?
You're thinking of animelons.
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You're thinking of animelons.
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