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Unread 20 Aug 2004, 20:37   #1
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Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Has anyone read the preview that jolt has done? Wow, the game looks right ****in sweet...gonna be much much better than GTA 3 & VC hands down.

For those that haven't read it...

part 1: http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=2416
part 2: http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=2426
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Read it, more interested in ground breaking evolutions in the genre, like when GTA made the jump to 3d and when GTA First came around.

I'm sure this will be a great sequel with even more things they couldn't quite do in Vice City.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

the burglary thing i find absolutely incredible.

the game is, as a whole, looking like it'll be close to objectively the best videogame ever unless Rock* **** things up severely.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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the burglary thing i find absolutely incredible.
as do I, along with being able to eat, work out, swim, get tattoos, shop, etc....all around it's gonna be a ****ing amazing game
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

A lot of the 'features' seem like padding to me.

Eating, going to the gym, changing your appearance, thats going to hold my interest for about 5 whole minutes. The house breaking thing does sound out standing, something about breaking into somebodys house, creeping upstairs with a silenced uzi and shooting the shit out of the guy while he sleeps I find appealing.

Just hoping it makes a big jump from Vice City, with an improvement on the piss poor missions that Vice City had.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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A lot of the 'features' seem like padding to me.

Eating, going to the gym, changing your appearance, thats going to hold my interest for about 5 whole minutes.
well, they'd better hold your intrest for longer than that, cuz from what I understand some of the things are integral parts to successfully completeing the game
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

My character will be the kinda guy that everyone takes the piss out of :P
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

omg omg omg

that looks like the perfect video game

fo real

(except id like it better if the main character was white, easier to identify with )

but thats about it :/

as long as it doesnt lose any of the appeal to just **** around and blow things up as well
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

also, did anyone else think 'idiot' when he mentioned that not being able to swim was never a problem in gta3?

i fell into that ****ing water and just died stupidly for however long it is since GTA1. i WANTED to be able to swim! did these guys never play the other ****ing games?
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Dunno, I viewed the water as a fatal hazard.

Not being able to swim wasnt a problem, was just another way to get killed. Saying it was a problem would be something akin to mario not being able to jump out of those pits on the NES games
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Undoubtedly there'll be a cheat or a skin edit out for the main character soon.

And yes, drowning was quite crap. Of course viewing the water as a lethal hazard is an option, but when you have so many freedom in a game, not being able to keep yourself alive in six feet of water kinda sucked.
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but when you have so many freedom in a game, not being able to keep yourself alive in six feet of water kinda sucked.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

you can swim now.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

is this going to come out for pc or some stupid console i dont have? (and when?)
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is this going to come out for pc or some stupid console i dont have? (and when?)
both (ps2 & a bit later for pc).
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Sorry, why does this game look so great?

I read the review too... So it's just GTA, with more mundane crap you have to do. Going to the gym and eating, and having the option to not wear a shirt hardly makes the game ,

So you can be a fat bitch, or a skinny guy, or toned nicely so the girls go "Oooooh". This sounds like a crud version of The Sims.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

what is the release date btw?
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Because GTA:VC was already great, so even if GTA:SA is more of the same, it'll be great too.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

I think it'd be better if you could customise your guy from scratch, so you felt more like as you made him toned/fat, he was more "you" than just some bloke called CJ.
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and he should be white.
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Re: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Making the character black is a change from the usual white, italian guy.
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what is the release date btw?
uh, in North America I believe it's October 18...not sure if that's the world wide release date or not

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Making the character black is a change from the usual white, italian guy.
I bet there'll be complaints of racism for making the main character in this black. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
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I bet there'll be complaints of racism for making the main character in this black. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Because depictions of black people as thieves, robbers, murders, etc don't go down well unless they're balanced by heroic protaganists.
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Of course the fact that the guy in all the previous GTA games was white doesn't offset it
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And even Italian american in one... and we all know about how vocal the anti italian american defamation league is over there...
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the UK release date October 22nd, i saw this as i was pre-ordering my copy of it today (along with Second Sight for my 'Cube)
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Of course the fact that the guy in all the previous GTA games was white doesn't offset it
That's the point. It's ok for a white guy to be a criminal, but to depict a black person as one is racist... well that'll be the logic I reckon, in this overly-politically-correct world we live in
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Of course the fact that the guy in all the previous GTA games was white doesn't offset it
Not really, no. To offset it properly you'd need a black heroic main character. A suitable analogy was the long running soap in the UK - Coronation Street. They hadn't had a black character for 20+ years (I think) and the first such character they had they made a burgular. Now, the fact that there had been previous white criminals in the show doesn't offset the presumed racism some people felt. Of course, we can only talk of the video game industry as a whole, and there have been black heroic characters - although none instantly spring to mind.

p.s. I don't actually give a shit, they can call the game "Super ****** Hater Turbo Championship Edition" where you are given extra points for killing pregnant black women for all I care. I'm merely trying to explain why some people care.
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p.s. I don't actually give a shit, they can call the game "Super ****** Hater Turbo Championship Edition" where you are given extra points for killing pregnant black women for all I care. I'm merely trying to explain why some people care.
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This game does indeed rock and plays beautifully.
Although I got more excited when I first started playing Burnout 3 to be fair.
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Not really, no. To offset it properly you'd need a black heroic main character.
Incorrect. Previous GTA games have never had any heroic characters.

Grand Theft Auto has traditionally always revolved about one single character, who is a criminal. In all the previous games, that character has been white - for that character to suddenly be black in the 5th installment of the game is not in any way racist, nor does it require a black heroic character to make an appearance.

The difference with your Coronation Street example, is that while the show may have had white criminals before, it was likely offset by the fact it had multiple white heroic - or at least non-criminal characters. By entering the only black person on the show as a criminal, they do conform to a possible stereotype.

GTA revolves around a single character, the soap opera about a multitude of characters. Therein lies the difference.
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Incorrect. Previous GTA games have never had any heroic characters.
Which is why I said "We can only look at the video game indsutry as a whole", for the reasons you went on to outline...
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Fair enough. Although Grand Theft Auto would be a fairly poor example, in my opinion.
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damn you leshy. This is a topic about video games, and you have to make in philosophical..

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Juanker Air is going to be the main air-line for Sanandreas.

it would be pronounced (Wank Air) or Wanker.....

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This is a topic about video games, and you have to make in philosophical..
That's what we do here. If you want a forum which avoids intelligent discussion then there are plenty out there.
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Incorrect. Previous GTA games have never had any heroic characters.

Grand Theft Auto has traditionally always revolved about one single character, who is a criminal. In all the previous games, that character has been white - for that character to suddenly be black in the 5th installment of the game is not in any way racist, nor does it require a black heroic character to make an appearance.
well you could actually pick a black guy in GTA 1, as well as a girl etc.
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