Planetarion Forums - The board game RISK is far better then any RTS war game...

Intrepid00 · 18 Feb 2004, 19:13

Yes?

Scoot951 · 18 Feb 2004, 19:15

Yes!

Deepflow · 18 Feb 2004, 19:21

no.

Intrepid00 · 18 Feb 2004, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

no.

No friends to play with?

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 19:32

RISK is extremely limited in scope and tactics. It all gets a bit monotonous. Comparing it with RTS games is a bit silly, too, given its turn based nature.

Civ 2 > RISK.

Intrepid00 · 18 Feb 2004, 19:59

Yes, cause the zerg attack is so complicated.

Muha · 18 Feb 2004, 20:04

The Civ series(minus that crapish third one)pwns risk anyday, but then, your mates dont have to buy it to play, if ur playing risk

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Intrepid00

Yes, cause the zerg attack is so complicated.

A guardian/mutalisk/scourge/queen attack (or similar) can get quite complicated, although it must be said that you're strawmanning horribly.

'Hey, RISK's a ****ing easy game! All you have to do is get Australia and hold Siam with 30 units

'

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Muha

The Civ series(minus that crapish third one)pwns risk anyday, but then, your mates dont have to buy it to play, if ur playing risk

You can have hotseat games of Civ you know, and given that you can WOW! copy the game, I don't really get your point.

The above point is doubly true because I got my MP edition of Civ 2 from Kazaa, as did most people.

Deepflow · 18 Feb 2004, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Intrepid00

No friends to play with?

yes, thats it.

also, thats why i come on the internet

i have no friends!

thx

Dante Hicks · 18 Feb 2004, 21:31

I like Risk. I don't play it anymore because I don't have that kind of pointless social free-time.

Risk is not "easy" unless you are playing against idiots. The actual game tactics are pretty simplistic (compared to something like Diplomacy) but the human-interaction can make the game as deep or shallow as you wish. I've had a Risk game go on for in excess of twelve hours for instance. Quite a few people had "30 units in Siam while holding Australia" and guess what, they didn't win.

The main criticism of Risk is that it's too luck based. An excellently strategy can come undone because some random git get's 6's fifty times in a row or something. This is why Diplomacy is superior in general (but I like Risk too as I say).

Power is OK, although it's a poor imitation of Diplomacy.

I don't think you can make valid comparisons to RTS games. In RTS there isn't much diplomatic play, it's mainly about economic management and micro-battle tactics. A good game of Risk can be like Poker (which is another deceivingly "simple" game).

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Quite a few people had "30 units in Siam while holding Australia" and guess what, they didn't win.

Quite a few people rush with Zerg and don't win. It was a parody of his stupid irrelevent comment, hence the inverted commas.

Deepflow · 18 Feb 2004, 21:46

rushing with zerg doesnt work if the opponent is just as good or the maps really small... unless they trying some funky build order.

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Deepflow

rushing with zerg doesnt work if the opponent is just as good or the maps really small... unless they trying some funky build order.

I much prefer protoss rushing, but longer games are more funky.

roadrunner_0 · 18 Feb 2004, 22:03

i hate playing mark at any kind of RTS, he always beats me

the bastard

Dante Hicks · 18 Feb 2004, 22:13

I never break treaties in Risk.

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Feb 2004, 22:14

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Originally Posted by roadrunner_0

i hate playing mark at any kind of RTS, he always beats me

the bastard

I've gotten much better at blizzard games since playing TFT properly :coal:

Ninja_spammer · 18 Feb 2004, 22:26

And apples are so much better than pears.

roadrunner_0 · 18 Feb 2004, 22:29

git

one of these days i will beat you at something.

Deffeh · 19 Feb 2004, 01:33

civ2

mrl you still play regularly? ive got this awesome game right now i know you want to see. want me to send it?

JetLinus · 19 Feb 2004, 01:49

civ3 >> civ2
but moo2 >> civ*

i maintain a history of loosing 9 out of 10 games of risk. the game is ok and nice and it's all true what the "profi risk players" said, but i find it too boring to play a game of 3 hours just to loose.

also, it's too dice based, that's true.
i hate the treaty stuff..

do you know there is a SC funmap called risk? its quite good actually. you should try it.

zerg rushing was made more and more difficult with each patch.

pablissimo · 19 Feb 2004, 01:53

The classic game of world domination.

I hate Risk.

Tactitus · 19 Feb 2004, 03:32

I started playing Risk again a few years ago with my son and his friends. The game itself is simplier than I remembered it; but it's all about politics anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

I never break treaties in Risk.

Neither do I. There's just the fine art of getting your allies to attack you right when you're ready to take them on.

SbOlly · 19 Feb 2004, 11:01

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

I never break treaties in Risk.

Hmmm....I remember once you apologising and then wiping me out when we had a 'treaty'. :gollum:

Dante Hicks · 19 Feb 2004, 11:05

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Originally Posted by SbOlly

Hmmm....I remember once you apologising and then wiping me out when we had a 'treaty'.

The golden rule of treaties is to be specific. If it's the game I'm thinking of I said I wouldn't attack you in North Africa (I think) but then someone else (Matt probably) did so, so I could attack via him into Congo (or somesuch) which wasn't part of our agreement.

As always, check the fine print.

MrL_JaKiri · 19 Feb 2004, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Deffeh

civ2

mrl you still play regularly? ive got this awesome game right now i know you want to see. want me to send it?

Go on :!

MrL_JaKiri · 19 Feb 2004, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

The golden rule of treaties is to be specific. If it's the game I'm thinking of I said I wouldn't attack you in North Africa (I think) but then someone else (Matt probably) did so, so I could attack via him into Congo (or somesuch) which wasn't part of our agreement.

As always, check the fine print.

I love wording like that

Deffeh · 19 Feb 2004, 11:55

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Go on :!

PM me your email address and ill send it over.

Seriously, ive never had such a good game. So late on, and so many civilisations still powerful

nickhall · 19 Feb 2004, 15:59

i have never played risk

nickhall · 19 Feb 2004, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue

One of the best board games aorund, guarenteed to start fights between friends and family alike.

Sounds like great fun :P

Deffeh · 19 Feb 2004, 16:21

Mrl is surely playing my game. which is totally awesome. to the max.

JonnyBGood · 19 Feb 2004, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

I don't think you can make valid comparisons to RTS games. In RTS there isn't much diplomatic play, it's mainly about economic management and micro-battle tactics. A good game of Risk can be like Poker (which is another deceivingly "simple" game).

I don't think anyone considers poker to be a simple game. Or if they do they're an absolute moron.

Risk is all about how everyone else plays anyways. Set strategies are never the greatest idea.