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Unread 1 Feb 2004, 00:47   #1
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like channel 4

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Re: like channel 4

Idi, what is it with you and your anti-drugs campaign?
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Re: like channel 4

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no, no its not

it is infact the worst 'drug' film in the history of the world
Whats the best one?
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Re: like channel 4

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Re: like channel 4

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It's the media equivalent of a ****ing stash tin with an alien and a hash leaf on it.
Do you mean it's pro-drugs, or that it's tacky?
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Re: like channel 4

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I'm not on an anti drug campaign as such
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Re: like channel 4

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it is infact the worst 'drug' film in the history of the world
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tacky, uninspired pop garbage
Surely then it is simply a film you dislike. I don't see why the subject matter is important?
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Re: like channel 4

Only saw the last half of it but I actually thought it wasnt bad, but i know what idimmu is on about. I think its a sad fact that you can glamourise drugs so easily and thus sell a movie or TV program. The 5 main characters suffered no comeuppance, i was very suprised it ended the way it did.
"We'll all stop eventually, when the lows outnumber the highs"
What? Then it pans out with a romantic kiss? Happy ending etc? Thats the worst message ever.
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Re: like channel 4

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Surely then it is simply a film you dislike. I don't see why the subject matter is important?
It's just like ordering any particular group of films
What's your favourite Bond film? Horror film? It's not unreasonable to say something like "That's the worst Kung Fu film I've ever seen"
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Re: like channel 4

I agree.
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Re: like channel 4

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no, no its not
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tacky, uninspired pop garbage
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Whats the best one[drug movie]?
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fear and loathing in las vegas
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Re: like channel 4

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The 5 main characters suffered no comeuppance
Why must everyone face holy retribution?

I don't think every "drugs film" (not that it's a genre per se) needs a dead baby a'la Trainspotting or whatever. Similarly, not every film/tv program where the main characters spend a lot of time drinking (say, Cheers) needs to show the main characters pissing themselves, failing their lives, etc, etc.
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Re: like channel 4

Trainspotting > Fear and loathing
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Re: like channel 4

Trainspotting is a LOT better than Fear and Loathing.

From what I seen of Human Traffic it was alright. I thought the main actor was decent.
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Re: like channel 4

Some of Human Traffic was ok. It had potential.
Alas, it was shit. I blame the directors.
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Re: like channel 4

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Only saw the last half of it but I actually thought it wasnt bad, but i know what idimmu is on about. I think its a sad fact that you can glamourise drugs so easily and thus sell a movie or TV program. The 5 main characters suffered no comeuppance, i was very suprised it ended the way it did.
"We'll all stop eventually, when the lows outnumber the highs"
What? Then it pans out with a romantic kiss? Happy ending etc? Thats the worst message ever.
i like that message
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Re: like channel 4

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Why must everyone face holy retribution?

I don't think every "drugs film" (not that it's a genre per se) needs a dead baby a'la Trainspotting or whatever. Similarly, not every film/tv program where the main characters spend a lot of time drinking (say, Cheers) needs to show the main characters pissing themselves, failing their lives, etc, etc.
They don't have to of course. I've voiced my opinion many times as you know about the effects film and the media have on people. I honestly believe that one Human Traffic does more damage to peoples perceptions of drugs than an entire government campaign about the concequences. When you make a film about drugs, i think somewhere, you have a moral obligation not to damage soceity in the process
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Re: like channel 4

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When you make a film about drugs, i think somewhere, you have a moral obligation not to damage soceity in the process

WHY??

i'd rather have a film that doesn't try to preach oooh drugs r bad through the film then one that does.

i like to be left to make up my own mind about stuff

however if u want to be told what to do like a child then thats ur choice
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When you make a film about drugs, i think somewhere, you have a moral obligation not to damage soceity in the process
But how does a film "promoting" drugs do that?

Most people taking Ecstacy (in my very limited experience) do not list it as a soul crushing experience which ruined their lives. They list it a positive experience which they enjoyed. This isn't something like promoting violence (which we can all pretty much agree is a bad thing).

If people are making a serious film then I'd say they owe a greater debt to the truth rather than excessive didacticism.
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Re: like channel 4

I think we've been here before. I still feel personally, that a large number of people dont have the capability of mind to make these decisions for themselves. I think far too many people are too easily impressed and impressed upon, and i dont believe that whether or not to take drugs is a decision that can be safely left to the masses
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