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Unread 30 Dec 2003, 22:46   #1
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drinking laws

hi guys you're all alcoholics so i would like to know if it is legal for somebody over 18 to buy drinks for people in a pub who are 16/17?
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Unread 30 Dec 2003, 22:47   #2
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Re: drinking laws

no, it is not legal.

edit: unless of course they could buy it legally themselves etc... (a beer with a meal for example).
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Re: drinking laws

Yes, it is, assuming they're not drinking it in the bar, and are in some kind of Beer Garden or somesuch.
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Not legal in my state.
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Re: drinking laws

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Not legal in my state.
That's probably because the US has absurd alcohol laws.
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Re: drinking laws

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That's probably because the US has absurd alcohol laws.
I blame Clinton, MADD, and the Federal Interstate fund.
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Re: drinking laws

You can be bought alcohol from the age of five. I think before then it's basically child abuse.
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I blame Clinton, MADD, and the Federal Interstate fund.
Personally I blame Prohibition
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Unread 30 Dec 2003, 23:45   #11
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Re: drinking laws

In England, you are entitled to purchase alcohol (if the purchasee is 16 or 17) providing they are with someone who is over 18 years of age and do not consume too much - so moderate use, and accompanying a meal

I think that's the law anyway
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Personally I blame Prohibition
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That's probably because the US has absurd alcohol laws.
Drinking age laws are all pretty arbitrary.* Once you realize that, they're all absurd.






*My state lowered the legal drinking age from 21 to 18 the year I turned 18. Some years later they raised it back up to 21 again. I like to think they did it just for me.
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Re: drinking laws

If you look at it that way, all laws are pretty arbitrary.

Which they are.

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Unread 31 Dec 2003, 00:40   #14
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Re: drinking laws

Alcohol can be given to anyone over the age of 4 in the home.

Anyone over 14 in a restaurant, as long as it's accompanied by a meal. And I -think- no more than a single pint of beer or glass of wine. Not sure about the last.

Anyone over 18 can buy it in most places, although the establishment may refuse to serve people under a higher age limit. Not lower, obviously.

It is also illegal to give MrL_Jakiri alcohol.
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Alcohol can be given to anyone over the age of 4 in the home.
5. And it's strictly speaking 'a private place', not 'in the home'.
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Re: drinking laws

Nyeh, my drunken fingers mashed the wrong key.

And, well... Yeah, ok.
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I recall it being legal to drink in your home if your over 7 or something stupid like that.
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I recall it being legal to drink in your home if your over 7 or something stupid like that.
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5. And it's strictly speaking 'a private place', not 'in the home'.
Read the sodding thread dude. It's not even 20 posts long.
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If you look at it that way, all laws are pretty arbitrary.
I wouldn't consider laws against murder or theft to be anywhere near as arbitrary as laws setting legal drinking ages or highway speed limits.
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Re: drinking laws

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hi guys you're all alcoholics so i would like to know if it is legal for somebody over 18 to buy drinks for people in a pub who are 16/17?
illegal in Canada...but, afaik...you can legally drink underage on your property.
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If you look at it that way, all laws are pretty arbitrary.

Which they are.

By definition.
There is a branch of law that believes that the laws are already there, dictated by society and such, and laws are just a positivation of the social fact.

In that sence laws are not arbitrary, but the natural limits that arise from human interaction.
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It really depends what you mean by arbitrary.

All laws have a reason behind them, and even the minutest detail generally has some kind of justification behind it (just a not very good one, often).
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Re: drinking laws

It could be argued though that this wouldn't necessarily invalidate the idea that there is some kind of Hegelian unfolding of humanity (or something) which leads to more ideal social arrangements over time (via struggle or dialectic, blah, blah).
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