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Unread 14 Dec 2006, 00:07   #51
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Out of interest, is there any rational reason why the American right hate Hilary Clinton so passionately? I mean, I know she's a woman and obviously linked to Bill, but the bile seems to be off the scale and totally disproportionate to her actions. Did she set fire to a load of bibles covered in flags while battering puppies with George Washington's remains or something?
My favorite Hillary Moment was her coining the phrase 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' to explain why the various Clinton scandals were all just fabrications by a cabal of her husband's enemies. Even today you can see VRWC bumper stickers and there are a number of VRWC websites.
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Unread 14 Dec 2006, 00:16   #52
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My favorite Hillary Moment was her coining the phrase 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' to explain why the various Clinton scandals were all just fabrications by a cabal of her husband's enemies. Even today you can see VRWC bumper stickers and there are a number of VRWC websites.
Well even if they weren't fabrications they were still a VRWC. Although it wasn't so much a conspiracy as a "plan" really.
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My favorite Hillary Moment was her coining the phrase 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' to explain why the various Clinton scandals were all just fabrications by a cabal of her husband's enemies. Even today you can see VRWC bumper stickers and there are a number of VRWC websites.
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Hilary should thank the VRWC for turning her husband from a mediocre (at best) President with questionable personal integrity into the strangely popular quasi-statesman type figure he seems to be today.
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Unread 14 Dec 2006, 00:29   #55
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Hilary should thank the VRWC for turning her husband from a mediocre (at best) President
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Unread 14 Dec 2006, 01:14   #56
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Well even if they weren't fabrications they were still a VRWC. Although it wasn't so much a conspiracy as a "plan" really.
And it wasn't particularly Vast either, but maybe 2 out of 4 is good enough for a passing grade.
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Hilary should thank the VRWC for turning her husband from a mediocre (at best) President with questionable personal integrity into the strangely popular quasi-statesman type figure he seems to be today.
Heh. Conspiracy theories: there's no problem they can't solve!
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I have however would suggest that if the main parties aren't selling anything people want to buy they shouldn't be expected to buy it and hope for the best.
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In fact if you look at the opinion polls you will find in the United States that most people are against nuclear proliferation, would like a peace deal in the middle east and would like to see concerted action on global warming and thought they were voting for it. The government has done the opposite of this, so people aren't even getting what they think they are voting for.
In all systems of government minorities get trodden on. Their views are not given credence because there are not enough of them to cause trouble when ignored. The sad reality is that our current systems of government in the first world offer very little choice to anyone. They are not designed for that, they are designed to maintain stability and allow the accumulation of wealth. Which they seem to do very well.

However I still fail to see why the average person should not make the best of a limited set of choices. Perhaps that is not very idealistic of me but all the idealism in the world won't change reality in the short or even medium term. Thus even if one is striving admirably to find a better way there is no logical reason not to "participate" in the current system while it exists, even though the gain may only be marginal.

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Now Achilles if you will climb down off your high horse and look seriously at the reasons why the 2 party system is killing US democracy we can perhaps have a discussion. I would point out that the system is heavily weighted in the main 2 parties favour. Secondly there is action to actively discourage certain sections of society from voting through bizarre voter registration schemes. Furthermore the massive intervention by big business in campaign funding and promotion means that any party even considering standing for the interests of people rather than big business would be run out of town. The influence of the media is another case in point.
It would seem no discussion is warranted as I agree with you entirely. It seems I am simply more willing to advocate participation in the current system while we await the arrival of a better one.
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Tacitus it is really disconcerting to try and read your posts with Tiny Tim next to them because then I read them in his falsetto
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i think you missed what i was getting at. the three points i raised are three points the republicans are going to use to smear obama, and in doing so will make sure he wont be elected president.
They way you put it though, republicans are racist and will use his ethnicity for reasons to not vote for him, and being a republican most of the time, I don't like the sentiment that republican equals white boys only club.
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So no you don't agree with me, to agree with me would be to demand action and demand consciousness of what is happening. You don't have to listen to what I say you just have to look around you.
what type of action and to achieve what?
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Or be like Kennedy, who revitalised the nation and whose election heralded a new era in America.
We all need people who commit vote fraud and have links to the mob!
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In terms of tactics by voting for one of the main parties you are supporting their policies and giving them a mandate. Furthermore the Democrats policies are so vile that I don't know how anyone could vote for them in good conscience. This thread is a call for them to come to power as if that will result in any measurable improvements. I put it to you that there is little or no evidence for this. If we look at the record of the Democrats we have Clinton's woeful record of arms dealing, forcing developing economies to adopt neo-liberal policies which distributed wealth from the poor to the rich and the expansion of American empire.
So vile? Take a look at the 100 hours agenda, which is, by all means, watered down.

1. Cleaning up Congress

a). Breaking the link between lobbyists and legislation
b). Commiting to Pay as You Go
c). No new Deficit Spending

2. Making our Nation Safer

a). Implementing the recommendations of the 9/11 commission

3. Making our Economy Fairer

a). Raising the Federal Minimum Wage
b). No new pay raises for Congress without a raise in the minimum wage

4. Making health care more affordable

a). Fixing the Medicare Prescription Drug Program by Negotiating Lower Prices
b). Promote Stem Cell Research

5. Broaden College Opportunity

a). Cut interest rates for student loans by half

6. Energize America for Energy Independence

a). Roll back subsidies for big oil companies

7. Guarantee a Dignified Retirement

a). Fight the attempt to privatize Social Security



Gross! Hold my hair!

And that's what they're trying to accomplish with a minority in constitutional powers with the most conservative administration in ages and a 5-4, occaisionally 6-3 conservative majority on the court.

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Whilst Bush has been in power they have voted for his foreign policy time and time again and supported the restrictions on freedom after 11 September 2001.
Except for, you know, 50% of the American voters.
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So vile? Take a look at the 100 hours agenda, which is, by all means, watered down.
Whilst I won't reply to the policy commentary (being shot in the foot is being better than shot in the head, just because they want to make things slightly less worse doesn't mean that they're good)...

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Except for, you know, 50% of the American voters.
is a non sequitur. Please explain how this makes any sense.
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Personally, I see it more as damage limitation more than anything else. If the Democrats kill fewer people with their foreign policy then in the short-term that is a good thing.
Chamberlain killed fewer people in 1938 with his foreign policy in the short term that seemed like a good thing.
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Chamberlain killed fewer people in 1938 with his foreign policy in the short term that seemed like a good thing.
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So vile? Take a look at the 100 hours agenda, which is, by all means, watered down.

1. Cleaning up Congress [She wanted to appoint a congressman who was impeached for accepting bribes as a federal judge to head the Intelligence committe, she also wanted to appoint William Jefferson to the Ways and Means committe. Jefferson, from New Orleans, during the Katrina aftermath, while they were still trying to rescue people, commandeered a National Guard vehicle and its rescue team and made them drive him to his house so that he could rescue his personal possessions which included $100,000 cash which he had hidden in his freezer. Money which is under investigation of coming from bribes. Clean up Congress? Hahahahahahaha!]

a). Breaking the link between lobbyists and legislation [hahahahaha]
b). Commiting to Pay as You Go [We don't have enough money in the US to pay for the Democrats on a pay as you go basis. Hahahaha.]
c). No new Deficit Spending [The Democrats INVENTED deficit spending. Hfahahaahaha.]]

2. Making our Nation Safer [Hahahahahahahaha!}

a). Implementing the recommendations of the 9/11 commission [That'll save us for sure. Hahahahahaha.]

3. Making our Economy Fairer [Tax and spend for the win.]

a). Raising the Federal Minimum Wage [Causing prices to rise so that the low income folks on fixed incomes can shoulder more of the load.]
b). No new pay raises for Congress without a raise in the minimum wage
[Most congressional income does not come from their salaries. The only congressmen who could be bullied by such a stance would be the honest ones. Tieing minimum wage to Congressional wages is a grandstand event.]
4. Making health care more affordable [A noble prospect but they aren't tallking about making it better. What they are really talking about is socialized medicine.]

a). Fixing the Medicare Prescription Drug Program by Negotiating Lower Prices
[This is only opposed by the big drug companies.]
b). Promote Stem Cell Research [Nancy could use a few new brain cells herself.]

5. Broaden College Opportunity

a). Cut interest rates for student loans by half [A half measure.]

6. Energize America for Energy Independence [Yes. By making sure that the obstacles to the construction of any additional power sources are prohibitive.]

a). Roll back subsidies for big oil companies [That will certainly energize America and get the big oil companies to produce more energy in America.]

7. Guarantee a Dignified Retirement [The Democrats are the same group that said they were going to tax the rich a few years ago and who decided in their lpropaosal that a family income over $52,000 dollars a year for a family of four, was wealthy. I certainly trust them to determine what a dignified retirement is.]

a). Fight the attempt to privatize Social Security [Social Security funds do not grow. They actually lose purchasing power. They are part of the general fund in that they can be used to create the illusion of lower deficites. Privatizing Social Security would, long run, allow people to retire at a higher level of income than currentlly.
Bracket portions are mine.
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we certainly cant tell which party *you* support now can we
Actually, reading through those comments further, i cant see a single one which is constructive. Its all a smear job.
Stop being a stereotypical republican troll and give constructive alternatives and *why* they would be better instead of just saying "omg those ideas suck because..." or just falling back onto tired cliches
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I meant more "are you seriously being sarcastic about this".
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we certainly cant tell which party *you* support now can we
Actually, reading through those comments further, i cant see a single one which is constructive. Its all a smear job.
Just because you don't think they're constructive doesn't mean that they're not true - the point about "cleaning up congress" especially is accurate, and Hillary's tendency to jump on any political bandwagon going (video game violence, for example) is hardly a good sign in a possible president.
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And nowhere did I advocate Hillary Clinton for President.

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5. Broaden College Opportunity

a). Cut interest rates for student loans by half [A half measure.]
You cannot, in theory or practice, cut interest rates by 100%. That's not how loans work.

Anyway, the original comment that brought me to trot out Pelosi's agenda said that the Democratic policies' are too vile to vote for in good conscience. That's just another talking point from the rabid anti-American sentiment which chooses to ignore the 50% of the American voters which repeatedly voted against the retarded policy of the current administartion (relevance here Jakiri) for the sake of making sweeping, unfounded generalizations when there are clear differences in platform, clear differences in methodology, and clear differences in integrity.

See: John Murtha's failed campaign for Majority Leadership. See the prevalence of Ethics committee reform in the legislative agenda.
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We all need people who commit vote fraud and have links to the mob!
But that doesn't change how he was perceived by the American public at the time of the 1960 election, does it?


(which was my point - and the only reason I used him as an example )
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You cannot, in theory or practice, cut interest rates by 100%. That's not how loans work.
Sure you can. They're called interest-free loans.

You can reduce or eliminate the interest on pretty much any loan by paying additional money up front. Technically, this is still interest but if you can get someone else to pay it you can kind of pretend it isn't. You can use other incentives to get lower interest rates as well (e.g., loan guarantees) but these aren't free either.

In the US most student loans don't originate from the government, the government just pays down the interest rate and/or guarantees a loan that's written by the private sector. On loans that originate from the government, they borrow the money from the private sector (we have a deficit) at market rates to lend to students at below-market rates and the government picks up the difference (and of course by government here I mean the taxpayer). Even if the government had a budget surplus the money spent on subsidizing student loans would have an opportunity cost insofar as that money could have been used for something else (paying down the national debt or whatever).

I suppose one can argue that students need access to the credit market, although I haven't seen much evidence that the private credit market is unwilling to lend money to students (at least to students who demonstrate some ability and effort), but I don't see why these loans need to be subsidized. The average college graduate will end up making a lot more money than the average taxpayer. Why should the later be subsidizing the former in the form of reduced interest loans?
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When are you going to give us a democrat in the white house?
Yo whusup?!

We'll get a Democrat in the white house whenever Kerry is dead.



Oh, and McCain will win if he runs, so no dice for a Democrat in the seat, sorry bud.

And about Obama and Clinton, this nation is not ready for a black or a female president. So, no.
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We'll get a Democrat in the white house whenever Kerry is dead.



Oh, and McCain will win if he runs, so no dice for a Democrat in the seat, sorry bud.

And about Obama and Clinton, this nation is not ready for a black or a female president. So, no.
Can you vote? Please say no.
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We'll get a Democrat in the white house whenever Kerry is dead.
He wasn't dead when Clinton got elected unless you're referring to his propensity for making gaffes, which although inconvenient isn't something you can't overcome. Just hide him away during election season.

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Oh, and McCain will win if he runs, so no dice for a Democrat in the seat, sorry bud.
There's so much shit on McCain from the last 3-4 years that he won't be able to paint himself as a moderate Republican if a Democrat starts putting out some decent negative ads about his voting record in the Senate. Essentially he grandstands and then shuffles back in with the rest of the Republicans when it looks like its getting tight. He's got away with it for a long time, but those chickens will eventually come home to roost.



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And about Obama and Clinton, this nation is not ready for a black or a female president. So, no.
This is exactly the type of thinking that will stop them from getting elected. If no-one votes for them in the belief that they can't win, then they never will be able to win.

Or is it just that you're not ready for a black or female President?
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But that doesn't change how he was perceived by the American public at the time of the 1960 election, does it?

(which was my point - and the only reason I used him as an example )
The only new era Kennedy ushered in was one based upon charisma to impress the electorate, which is largely used instead of actually substantial argument. I wouldn't say that he "revitalised the electorate" - the number of votes cast in the 1960 election are up significantly from 1956, but this is somewhat padded by 1960 being the first election to give Alaska and Hawaii a part in the proceedings. 1964 was higher, so was 68, 72 and every election since. The trend of the incease in voter numbers has been going on as long as there has been American elections - for example, a greater % increase of votes tallied was observed from 1904-1908, but I wouldn't say that we needed someone just like Taft to fix all the problems.

Public perceptions are indeed a great issue in contemporary politics, but Kennedy wasn't some answer to that, he was the first good example.
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He wasn't dead when Clinton got elected unless you're referring to his propensity for making gaffes, which although inconvenient isn't something you can't overcome. Just hide him away during election season.
The ability of the Republicans (both officials, such as Bush, and their hangers on like Limbaugh) to spin things, or rather the ability of the American populace to believe them, means that anyone can be used. Look at something like the "Dean Scream" - that basically killed his campaign, and the only reason it sounds bad is because the audience, who were incredibly loud according to members of the press who were there, were not being recorded. Look at Limbaugh criticising Michael J Fox for supporting a Democrat who supported stem cell research, claiming that he was faking the side effects of his Parkinson's medication, or rather his Parkinson's, as he didn't seem to know the difference.

I would go on about Limbaugh's amazing inability to tell the truth, or of the amazing ability of his 14m or so listeners to believe it, but we're really not any better in this country.
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we certainly cant tell which party *you* support now can we :rolleyes
Actually you can't because I don't know who I support at the present time. Both parties seem rather shit to me. I am disaffected on many fronts. However, when someone comes forward and says that the best thing for the US is a Democrat dominated government, I have a lot of hesitation. For most of my life I WAS a Democrat. My family are all Democrats. My grandfather was an American Socialist. However, after many years of listening to the Democratic rhetoric and comparing it to what they actually produced, I became very disillusioned. People talk about the 12 years of Republican supremecy. However, the Democrats were in power, almost exclusively, in congress from 1932-1994.

Nancy Pelosi is as big a hipocrite as you can find. She champions minimum wage reform while denying raises to the employees in the businesses she is involved in. She takes money from the Labor Unions, yet refuses to let her businesses organize. (You may be interested to know that I am rather pro union, having been a shop steward in one union and a member of the board of directors during my career.) Nancy (who is from a nearby district to the one I am in) gets in the news a lot around here and I haven't seen anything about her that I like. On the other hand I have regularly voted for Democratic Senator Dianne Finestein who while wrong on some issues seems to genuinely care about what she is doing rather than just about feathering her political nest, most of the time.

I expect about as much out of Pelosi's First Hundred Hours as I did out of the Republicans' Contract with America......not much except grand standing.
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Its really subsidizing the universities though.
Yeah, that's pretty obvious. Cui bono and all that. Lenders love it too because student loan guarantees eliminate all that nasty paperwork involving evaluation of loan applicants and going after deadbeats.
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By allowing students cheap credit the universities can charge higher fees.
Oh rapturous joy. The nation's prayers for higher university fees have been answered.
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If students couldn't pay any money that would push the price down presumably, or universities would go out of business.
Falling prices and/or universities going out of business would force universities to compete even harder for students. Having attend and worked at a university I think more competition would be an excellent idea.
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There is the notion as well that if students go on to earn more money they will pay higher income tax (unless they become accountants).
Not unlike the notion that we are all just sheep to be sheared.

But if we really want to maximize tax revenues still further for the glorious state we should severely limit the number of degrees in the social sciences--we all know there there aren't enough jobs in those fields.
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The ability of the Republicans (both officials, such as Bush, and their hangers on like Limbaugh) to spin things, or rather the ability of the American populace to believe them, means that anyone can be used. Look at something like the "Dean Scream" - that basically killed his campaign, and the only reason it sounds bad is because the audience, who were incredibly loud according to members of the press who were there, were not being recorded.
Um, no. The scream was funny but what really killed Dean's campaign was his distant third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses. Dean's "strike early and hard" campaign strategy required him to do well in Iowa, and after weeks of being at or near the top of the polls there was a lot of expectation that he would win, or at least finish a strong second. Finishing a weak third pretty much popped his balloon.
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Re: Yo americans

As fun as you people have made my thread.

I still want to know when America is going to give me a democrat president.
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Why do we want a Democrat in the White House?

hell a basket of fruit would be better than what u have at the moment :-)
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hell a basket of fruit would be better than what u have at the moment :-)
We felt the same way in 1776.
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As fun as you people have made my thread.

I still want to know when America is going to give me a democrat president.
With the current state of American politics '08 is a reasonable possibility. The question is going to be whether or not the Democrats are able to be even more irritating than the Republicans (a distinct possibility) in the next two years. Already, the Democrats have turned the Republicans into Democrats in so many ways.
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