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28 Aug 2009, 08:39
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Stats round 33 Best and worst
Ok having looked at the stats this round and spent much time doing my normal calcs I have reached these conclusions:
First off best to worst races
- Cathaar best
- Xan Second best
- Zik there in the middle
- ETD playable
- Ter worst
I like Cathaar FR/DE much room for solo or teamups, great race will be able to self defend against all races with great efficiency.
Xan what can I say cloaked with 3 pod types, what more can you ask for, pick xan and build those distorters fast as you can, and you will be on your way to easy top 100, if active easy top 10.
Zik if you are lucky enough to steal early on you will be on your way to best fr/de fleet in the universe. Pick stealers wisely.
ETD is playable as usual but is left with a lot of weakness against xan fr and cathaar co. will need much help to survive with this race.
Terran hmm :/ I never seen the terran race in a worse stats than these. Only pick if you are planning to play all defense all round. All fleets have major weaknesses.
I hope those of you who made it to top 10 appreciate this last minute input and good luck to all.
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Last edited by Stuhlman; 28 Aug 2009 at 08:46.
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28 Aug 2009, 08:47
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
I canīt agree on cath but xan is easy top 100 and top 10 if played active!
I mean come on, cloaked? Noone can see what you send so rack em distorters up and you win.
By the time you have 150 constructions you should have 3 factories, 1 of each and 147 distorters which will make you IMPOSSIBlE to scan.
And then profit!
Agreed on Ter being the worse, loose everything everywhere everytime. They canīt even def with thoose initīs.
Shoot last = death. Xan will freeroid terrans all round.
Nice analysis of the stats!
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28 Aug 2009, 09:01
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old spy
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
have you sen the stats on terrans and done some clacs at all ? there FR is very good still they ended up on topp last round as there FR fortress WILL work just as good this round
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28 Aug 2009, 09:09
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Originally Posted by aif
have you sen the stats on terrans and done some clacs at all ? there FR is very good still they ended up on topp last round as there FR fortress WILL work just as good this round
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M8 when you take all the other races stats this round terran FR does not stand a chance. You can't compare apples to apples, when every other race has changed even terran.
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28 Aug 2009, 09:18
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
Its nice that someone finally posted stat analysis.. Now i finally know which race to go, Thx man!
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28 Aug 2009, 09:31
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
How good is a fortress if you canīt get food enough to substain yourself?
Aif you fail. Look at stats again and come back with some contructive things instead of just acting like a noob.
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28 Aug 2009, 09:49
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old spy
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
so tell me why did the terrans last round get so high ? FR team ups WILL be hard to def agianst when thye target all and can take a blow with out much loses. allso the terrans can fake there BS with FRīs/nix.
i still think terrans is a good race to go ;-) PPL never solo anymore from the looks of it. and why should terrans do anyhthing else ! when they crush xan when they can fire ofc ! but still i think terrans will do good even this round ! they allways do.
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28 Aug 2009, 10:12
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
FAIL FAIL FAIL.
ALl you against ter teamups is teamup and you still ****ing loose.
FAIL FAIL FAIL, poor alliance with you in it. Oh wait, noone let you in? GO ahead as terran Iīll come eat you with my xan forces
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28 Aug 2009, 10:22
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
your fail for thinking that terran will only teamup with terran...
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28 Aug 2009, 10:51
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
WHy teamup with terrans when there are SOOOOOOOO much better teamsups like a cath or something?
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28 Aug 2009, 12:13
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
last round was last round and different stats to other races?
so tell me why did the terrans last round get so high ?
Answer that AIF and suck on the candy a long time before syaing something stupid again.
ANd if you want another candy, pm me and Iīll give you a real jawbreaker. And throthfiller.
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28 Aug 2009, 12:20
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
snaga get off the drugs plz
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28 Aug 2009, 12:25
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
This is certainly one of the more surreal threads we've seen on the forums recently.
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28 Aug 2009, 12:44
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
snaga is obviously around 13
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28 Aug 2009, 12:49
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
You got me worried, I feel I've not seen the same stats as you...
GL for a Xan landing his soooo leet FR fleet on a ETD...
http://game.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=bsnokoogaswxzsl
you call that a weakness ?
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28 Aug 2009, 12:52
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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This is certainly one of the more surreal threads we've seen on the forums recently.
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Looooooool. I dont know if its cos ive been drinking piss all day or not, but that post was certainly ****ing hilarious
Btw, FYI: Ter was shit last round. Only reason they ranked so well was cos of the App/Asc players playing it. Needless to say, the same players could make turd fleets look sexy.
Edit: PS, u ****s look at one fleet, and immediately see counter fleets. Sadly, PA doesnt always work like that
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28 Aug 2009, 12:55
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Originally Posted by snaga
last round was last round and different stats to other races?
so tell me why did the terrans last round get so high ?
Answer that AIF and suck on the candy a long time before syaing something stupid again.
ANd if you want another candy, pm me and Iīll give you a real jawbreaker. And throthfiller.
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Still trying to read that, I'll come up with an intelligent reply as soon as I manage to understand it.
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28 Aug 2009, 13:09
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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- ETD playable
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ETD is playable as usual but is left with a lot of weakness against xan fr and cathaar co. will need much help to survive with this race.
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What the fk? I didnt even bother reading the rest after this.
I know youre a good player Stuhl, so why are you posting this crap? Also snaga is a troll account or something? Aif knows what hes talking about, you might disagree with him. If so give some proper reason for it.
Etd is more than playable, their Bs fleet is the strongest. How can they lose to xan Fr when they got 3 ships firing with better init? Assassin demolishes xand Fr. As for Etd against xan Co; Im sure every Etd will have some avengers, you dont need much alliance defence after that. So why would that make them specifically weak against cath CO?
Its not funny to paste wack anaylsis to try and fool the less experienced. I hope you just made some miscalcs.
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28 Aug 2009, 13:28
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
**** i picked terran
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28 Aug 2009, 13:40
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Why would an Xan attack with only Ghosts? You always need flak when you're hitting something which fires first..
http://game.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=tbd0vgzf0zttfc8
Is the proper calc with even values, ETD is given abit less value as they will need to divert resources to anti Fi/Co as well.
but yeah, its hardly a weekness
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28 Aug 2009, 13:46
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Originally Posted by snaga
last round was last round and different stats to other races?
so tell me why did the terrans last round get so high ?
Answer that AIF and suck on the candy a long time before syaing something stupid again.
ANd if you want another candy, pm me and Iīll give you a real jawbreaker. And throthfiller.
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28 Aug 2009, 14:41
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
Ehh ok, so who brought the brainwashingmachine around here? All I can see is people who doesnīt know the game and think stats are just rock paper scissor.
Sthul is right, all of you who donīt think so think again and try hard this time to break that mental barrier of intelligence you have and you will understand.
And for your information iīm not 13 iīm 16 and Iīm good I never loose roids.
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28 Aug 2009, 14:45
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
its easy
1)ter is fruity
2)cath pwns with every fleet (dunno much about de tho)
3)xan cr rocks tho u need to do ghosts as 1 def ship that dont benefit the ally.. xan fr might b fun
4)zik sucks in everything.. might b able to get something out of their cr
5)etd pwns with fi and bs (best fleets this round).. dont know about their fr/de as its not intresting for me
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28 Aug 2009, 18:46
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Originally Posted by Light
Why would an Xan attack with only Ghosts? You always need flak when you're hitting something which fires first..
http://game.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=tbd0vgzf0zttfc8
Is the proper calc with even values, ETD is given abit less value as they will need to divert resources to anti Fi/Co as well.
but yeah, its hardly a weekness
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Faking their CR fleet, its exactly what i'd do as a xan.. need the ghosts for anti-fico and cant use them for def so it should be pretty standard to see xan ghosts running alone..
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28 Aug 2009, 19:26
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Faking their CR fleet, its exactly what i'd do as a xan.. need the ghosts for anti-fico and cant use them for def so it should be pretty standard to see xan ghosts running alone..
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not if the calc looks like that they wont
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28 Aug 2009, 20:45
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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.... Iīm good I never loose roids.
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Have you spent all your time in a C200 gal then?
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29 Aug 2009, 11:00
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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this is certainly one of the more surreal threads we've seen on the forums recently.
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30 Aug 2009, 15:17
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
Your either playing etd BS with avengers in your bpack/ally or u aren't playing this round seriously.
Pretty simple, anything else is just pure newbness.. "balanced stats" once again.
Reason: Check efficiencys and targetting order, and initiaves if you didn't figure it out already.
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30 Aug 2009, 21:54
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
with as much etd bs / xan cr thats going to be around, i'd like to see how well the few cathaar that will pick the de fleet do. /shrug
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3 Sep 2009, 12:42
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Re: Stats round 33 Best and worst
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Why would an Xan attack with only Ghosts?
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Bc the rest of the xan fr suck balls. Hairy ones at that.
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