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28 Jul 2004, 22:55
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Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/3934277.stm
LOOK MEDIA ****ERS. ITS NOT THE GAMES FAULT THE KID IN QUESTION WAS A COMPLETE ****ING PSYCHOPATH. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PLAYED THAT GAME AND DIDNT KILL ANYONE. MILLIONS PLAYED GRAND THEFT AUTO, THERE WERE NO MASS SLAYINGS WITH FLAMETHROWERS AND ROCKET LAUNCHERS. ITS A SLOW NEWS DAY AND YOURE A BUNCH OF SENSATIONALIST HACKS WITH NO REPORTING TALENT WHATSO****INGEVER.
God i hate the media.
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28 Jul 2004, 23:01
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Yet more proof that we should begin vaccination against computer games immediately.
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28 Jul 2004, 23:02
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
I played Manhunt for about ten to fifteen minutes.
I decided it was incredibly boring, and that I could use my HD space for better purposes.
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28 Jul 2004, 23:06
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Quote:
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GRAND THEFT AUTO
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I swear they're talking about Manhunt..
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28 Jul 2004, 23:22
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
IF they ban manhunt I'd ok it cause it's shit anyway.
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28 Jul 2004, 23:26
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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I swear they're talking about Manhunt..
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they were, i think he was using GTA as another example, if you read it (kuras post) carefully it's a bit clearer
no doubt some 'tard will try and blame/sue Nintendo for this, they always end up taking the rap for all things bad in the video games department, especially when they've got nothing to do with the problem in the first place!
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28 Jul 2004, 23:26
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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I swear they're talking about Manhunt..
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you misread kurahima's post
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28 Jul 2004, 23:26
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
oh god damn it! dont know why i bother
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28 Jul 2004, 23:30
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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oh god damn it! dont know why i bother
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lol *MWHAHAHAHA*
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29 Jul 2004, 00:30
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
I hate the media too. They are on the side of the rich and wealthy against computer games and autonom anarchists dudes
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29 Jul 2004, 00:44
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Manhunt was always going to have this effect. I hope Rockstar are happy, yo.
Freedom of expression in computer games is all very well, but im not sure whats to be gained or enjoyed from killing folk
And i believe i predicted this in the original "manhunt is coming out" thread.
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29 Jul 2004, 00:46
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
yeah deffeh's right guys, no one ever killed people before computer games came along
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29 Jul 2004, 00:51
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
rumour has is they did. Im not against computer violence as such as a part of computer games. When its an entire basis with no other point i find that a bit deviant
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29 Jul 2004, 00:53
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
it does have a point, it's entertaining
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29 Jul 2004, 00:58
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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shouldnt the law protect those "psychopaths" from those games?
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29 Jul 2004, 01:31
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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shouldnt the law protect those "psychopaths" from those games?
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i think the point kura was making was, the kid was going to kill someone eventualy with or without the game. so the game didn't really make him kill someone, he was going to do it anyway. right kura?
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29 Jul 2004, 01:45
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Who needs guns?
Also, I played a game when a kid called Manhunt, but no one was ever killed or had their nose twisted with giant plumber pliers.
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29 Jul 2004, 03:27
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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i think the point kura was making was, the kid was going to kill someone eventualy with or without the game. so the game didn't really make him kill someone, he was going to do it anyway. right kura?
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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shouldnt the law protect those "psychopaths" from those games?
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Ladies and Gentlemen , this has been Lupin , wildly missing the point.
Thank you, thank you, hes here all week, twice on a Friday.
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29 Jul 2004, 07:13
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Heh.. what a nub... he admitted to it.
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29 Jul 2004, 08:10
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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shouldnt the law protect those "psychopaths" from those games?
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I think computer games are the last thing someone with severe mental illness needs to worry about.
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29 Jul 2004, 08:36
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Hammers are a lot easier to come by than rocket launcers or flamethrowers.
That said, my opinion is also that if a person kills somebody, it comes from the inside - not outside. I'm sorry if this offends somebody, but I think there's something wrong in people that prefer games over real life... especially anitsocial, violent, the-more-boodn'guts-the-better -games.
I've known some. Its not fun: "hey I have free tickets to this excellent rock-festival, wanna come?" ..."um, no thanks I've no time" (and he goes home and plays in a dark room the whole sunny weekend). No known murders by him ...yet.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
I say we sue Nintendo for making people jump in big pits and believe they can because they have two lives left anyway.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Originally Posted by Zaphod I
I've known some. Its not fun: "hey I have free tickets to this excellent rock-festival, wanna come?" ..."um, no thanks I've no time" (and he goes home and plays in a dark room the whole sunny weekend). No known murders by him ...yet.
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I agree. Anyone that prefers not to get thrown around in a mosh pit or whatever is clearly a murderer in waiting.
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29 Jul 2004, 10:28
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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I agree. Anyone that prefers not to get thrown around in a mosh pit or whatever is clearly a murderer in waiting.
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Yes, you really got it
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29 Jul 2004, 10:36
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Yes, you really got it
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but I'm not sure that you did.
Why is it that just because you prefer to go to a rock festival/whatever that your beliefs should be held as the standard for others? Give leeway for a LITTLE bit of freedom in people's opinions, would you?
Besides, for someone on an internet forum you have an awfully low opinion of videogames. And as LHC was pointing out - 'i'm busy (playing games)' is often enough a polite way of saying 'i don't want to do whatever it is you are asking me to but am trying not to hurt your feelings'.
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29 Jul 2004, 10:49
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
I saw the pit I dug for myself in LHC's post, but made a pathetic attempt to make it disappear... *sigh!*
OK, very bad example, although we both liked the same bands that were playing there, that's why I asked him to join us. I played the same games with him (that's why I knew the guy), but it felt like an addiction in his part, as the games seemed to dictate his life. It was weird.
I repeat, for the record, in my opinion games don't make people homicidal.
And I stand corrected. I do play video games and find them entertaining. Just not all the time.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Yet more proof that we should begin vaccination against computer games immediately.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Why has noone started copying 'Theme park'?
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Isn't the game an 18?
The kid's 17.
Bad parenting.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Originally Posted by Demon Dave
i think the point kura was making was, the kid was going to kill someone eventualy with or without the game. so the game didn't really make him kill someone, he was going to do it anyway. right kura?
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thanks for clearing it up .
bottom line: if this kid wouldnt have played manhut he maybe wouldnt have killed the boy, we dont know. and with the weapons he used it looks like he was influenced by this game. as i think you have to fight for every single human life, i definatley go for that this game should be banned or whatever.
besides i think the media has alot of responsibitiy towards it clientele. just because we are "mature" enough to look through all that shit that happends in TV doesnt mean that everyone is.
ps: excusez-moi pour mon anglais mauvais.
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29 Jul 2004, 13:26
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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If anyone in 2004 still buys their games from Dixons, then they deserved to be simultaneously savaged and raped anally by a Silverback Gorilla with Chlamydia.
I'M SURE THAT DIXONS WILL SEVERELY RESTRICT ACCESS TO THIS GAME!
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Loads of other shops are withdrawing it to -saw it just now on Sky News.
Now for the controversy in my post.
I personally blame the parents. Game age ratings are there for a reason, if the parents are letting there kid play an 18+ game, there in the wrong. Parents sholuld monitor what there kids are doing - wether chat rooms or games they play.
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29 Jul 2004, 15:59
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Loads of other shops are withdrawing it to -saw it just now on Sky News.
Now for the controversy in my post.
I personally blame the parents. Game age ratings are there for a reason, if the parents are letting there kid play an 18+ game, there in the wrong. Parents sholuld monitor what there kids are doing - wether chat rooms or games they play.
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Nothing controversial in that. Solid premise.
And what makes a game sell by the absoloute bucketload? Controversy and shops banning it. Rockstar will be crying all the way to the bank, despite the fact its a really shit game.
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29 Jul 2004, 16:17
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
The great thing about all this crazy circus is that in 3-6 months nobody will be playing Manhunt anyway.
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29 Jul 2004, 16:30
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
I wonder how long until international assassins claim that the Hitman game series 'made them do it'.
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29 Jul 2004, 16:53
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Round and round and round it goes.........where the causality arrow stops NOBODY KNOWS!
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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Round and round and round it goes.........where the causality arrow stops NOBODY KNOWS!
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29 Jul 2004, 17:21
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
So, basically - you lot like computer games, and you refuse to admit that there is a connection here. Ok.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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So, basically - you lot like computer games, and you refuse to admit that there is a connection here. Ok.
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that MUST be it. in the history of the world, no psycho has ever attacked someone with a knife or hammer! its ALL THE FAULT OF VIDEOGAMES
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29 Jul 2004, 17:32
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So, basically - you lot like computer games, and you refuse to admit that there is a connection here. Ok.
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I'm fairly ambivalent towards games to be honest; there are few I play and fewer I am really "in to".
The hilarity of drawing a causal link between one copy-cat murder in a playing population of hundreds of thousands of people, over the lifetime of the game, and the nature of the game itself, must be pretty ****ing obvious even to people who have no clue whatsoever about cause and effect.
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that MUST be it. in the history of the world, no psycho has ever attacked someone with a knife or hammer! its ALL THE FAULT OF VIDEOGAMES
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I understand that you knew the killer? - and that you are a psychoanalysist, then?
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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So, basically - you lot like computer games, and you refuse to admit that there is a connection here. Ok.
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Frankly I think we're all overlooking the fact he was a negro.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
same old, same old....
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I'm fairly ambivalent towards games to be honest; there are few I play and fewer I am really "in to".
The hilarity of drawing a causal link between one copy-cat murder in a playing population of hundreds of thousands of people, over the lifetime of the game, and the nature of the game itself, must be pretty ****ing obvious even to people who have no clue whatsoever about cause and effect.
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If it were a 'copy-cat' murder, is there any reason to suspect that the game can do anyone any good?
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
Also we're not giving my idea of individually locking everyone in a dark box and providing no external stimuli as a method of avoiding crime enough credit.
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Frankly I think we're all overlooking the fact he was a negro.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
OMG CAN I DO THIS TOO?!??! Edit : Much Better
but yeah, agree.
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Re: Boy Beaten to Death by Moron imitating Crap Computer Game
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If it were a 'copy-cat' murder, is there any reason to suspect that the game can do anyone any good?
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Could it not be that maybe, just maybe the reason he became so obsessed with the game was because he was a psychopath, and not the other way around?
LOL Only kidding ban games!
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