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Unread 8 Sep 2007, 17:10   #101
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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nice summary but like we have said since our post about us playing.. we are going alone unless forced otherwise.. so far we havent, so we stay solo.. tbh vsn been against us several of rounds, destiny was extremly against eX, VS aint that mainly 1ups, which says enough..and as for insomnia i doubt they would involve themselves in anything with the problems they have had so far..
and about against eX.. quite decent summary, i do not know regarding ND tho.. u might want to switch them out with ToF and possibly bring in HA..
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seriously that is all i can muster up for this post
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Unread 8 Sep 2007, 17:19   #102
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Unread 8 Sep 2007, 17:25   #103
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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i do not know regarding ND tho.. u might want to switch them out with ToF and possibly bring in HA..
Do u actually believe the words that ur typeing? Ministry arent involved in such a block.
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You arent really a beacon of honesty either Tesla
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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Oh, blocking makes sense, just not on the first week. If you feel that eX is such a threat that you need to coordinate as a block from tick 72, we have hit rock bottom.
And i think last round Ascendancy getting banged was just because they were not exactly loved by the other alliances. I doubt that a block was needed for that though.
Actually given how Exilition are more dangerous than Ascendancy, I think it makes it perfect sense. Now look - Exilition have a 100% record, over a series of rounds. If alliances aren't making it impossible for them to exist, they're accepting defeat to exilition in my view.

If you aren't as good as exilition but side with them, you're pretty much guaranteeing yourself to lose to exilition, because as the round goes on, they get better.

But other than that a nice post; "hit people if I think it's convenient, if I like people then don't". Clearly objective criteria. Accepting to lose to exilition just because they are the best is a rubbish way of looking at it.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

Cartman afaik destiny never played the same round as eX so how could they have been fighting?

Another thing. If eXilition isnt tagged up, the other alliances aren't trying enough to make them.
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Does "exilition have 110 top players with superhuman abilities, a myersiious ally, underground agreements, shady dealings, them winning again would harm the game etcetra etcetra" come across as a rock solid fact then?
not at all, although it sounds more like a justification for using a 5 ally block than a "please help us".

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amusing BA.. name 1.. and ill name u 4 u got tbh that u are scared to face us alone is kinda sad but tbh quite good for our motivation.
It's not sad that people don't want to fight eXi 1 vs 1 because eXi have proven to have the best military in the game in every round that they've played, trying to fight them solo this round would be suicidal, the smart thing to do is to gather allies, which people seem to be doing.

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Oh ffs. Not even 1 week of raids and we are already talking about blocks?
This is pure comedy. Why would anyone want to form a 4 alliance block against exilition at this stage of the game.
Because, like I said above, eXi have proven that they're the best alliance solo, so taking them out before they have the chance to grow and dominate is the most intelligent move. Remember round 19? remember the "oh no eXi aren't too much of a threat yet"? remember what happened when they were left too long? People seem to have learned from their mistakes this time around.

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nice summary but like we have said since our post about us playing.. we are going alone unless forced otherwise.. so far we havent, so we stay solo.. tbh vsn been against us several of rounds, destiny was extremly against eX, VS aint that mainly 1ups, which says enough..and as for insomnia i doubt they would involve themselves in anything with the problems they have had so far.
This is a pretty funny post - Vsn have only played one round that eXi have also played, round 13, where they were on the same side. Destiny have never palyed a round that eXi have played. The VS being mainly 1up thing is also quite funny as most people in this game are over the age of 10 and aren't going to be bitter becasue their aliance lost to yours in a spreadsheet game a few years ago.
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Unread 9 Sep 2007, 00:24   #109
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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This is a pretty funny post - Vsn have only played one round that eXi have also played, round 13, where they were on the same side. Destiny have never palyed a round that eXi have played. The VS being mainly 1up thing is also quite funny as most people in this game are over the age of 10 and aren't going to be bitter becasue their aliance lost to yours in a spreadsheet game a few years ago.
Vsn has always been sided with 1up in some way.. If u had payed attention one of Destiny's HC's Antigone was the one that started the screaming for a anti eX block. And if u think that only people of the age of 10 hold grudges I must say that you are an idiot. The fights between eX and 1up created ALOT of bad blood and there are several that still hold those grudges.. You can basically ask most people if they have a grudge against someone or some ally in this game and u'll find that most actually do..
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Unread 9 Sep 2007, 01:19   #110
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Vsn has always been sided with 1up in some way.
I'd like to know how the **** you came to the conclusion that joining eXi's anti 1up block in the only round that Vsn and eXi both played is siding with 1up.

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If u had payed attention one of Destiny's HC's Antigone was the one that started the screaming for a anti eX block.
you made it sound like Destiny had played a round against you before and were extremely anti you like 1up were.

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And if u think that only people of the age of 10 hold grudges I must say that you are an idiot.
And if you cut out the context of my post and reply to it I must say that you are an idiot. Nobody who isn't a complete retard will hold a grudge if they lost a round of PA to another alliance unless they thought that there was cheating/dirty play involved. I was in that 1up block in round 13 where eXi won, I was 14 ****ing years old and still held no grudge against eXilition so I refuse to believe that there are people out there that are retarded enough to do so.

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The fights between eX and 1up created ALOT of bad blood and there are several that still hold those grudges. You can basically ask most people if they have a grudge against someone or some ally in this game and u'll find that most actually do.
So much bad blood, in fact, that some 1up members that fought you in round 13 joined you in round 15, one of whom even rose to HC position. Right?
And yes, people hold grudges against other players or alliances for being faggots, not for beating them in a spreadsheet game.
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Unread 9 Sep 2007, 03:00   #111
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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Vsn has always been sided with 1up in some way.. If u had payed attention one of Destiny's HC's Antigone was the one that started the screaming for a anti eX block. And if u think that only people of the age of 10 hold grudges I must say that you are an idiot. The fights between eX and 1up created ALOT of bad blood and there are several that still hold those grudges.. You can basically ask most people if they have a grudge against someone or some ally in this game and u'll find that most actually do..
If this were true there would already be an anti eXi block but in reality there is not. There are several individuals that would like to see something along the lines of OPERATION MAKE eXi LOSE but no one wants to work out the details of how that would happen. Besides most of the 1up players have retired or moved on to other alliances. eXi will win and it won't even be a challenge. The only real fun you are going to get is on these forums.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

And what fun we're having, ha ha ha.
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This is sad on so many levels.
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If this were true there would already be an anti eXi block but in reality there is not. There are several individuals that would like to see something along the lines of OPERATION MAKE eXi LOSE but no one wants to work out the details of how that would happen. Besides most of the 1up players have retired or moved on to other alliances. eXi will win and it won't even be a challenge. The only real fun you are going to get is on these forums.
There needs to be no details, they just need to make it happen. They can sort out the details once the job is done. Maybe they are too stupid to realise this.
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There needs to be no details, they just need to make it happen. They can sort out the details once the job is done. Maybe they are too stupid to realise this.
Highly likely they've already started planning on how best to backstab each other after it's done so they can win instead of focusing on the task that needs doing.
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I'd like to know how the **** you came to the conclusion that joining eXi's anti 1up block in the only round that Vsn and eXi both played is siding with 1up.


you made it sound like Destiny had played a round against you before and were extremely anti you like 1up were.


And if you cut out the context of my post and reply to it I must say that you are an idiot. Nobody who isn't a complete retard will hold a grudge if they lost a round of PA to another alliance unless they thought that there was cheating/dirty play involved. I was in that 1up block in round 13 where eXi won, I was 14 ****ing years old and still held no grudge against eXilition so I refuse to believe that there are people out there that are retarded enough to do so.


So much bad blood, in fact, that some 1up members that fought you in round 13 joined you in round 15, one of whom even rose to HC position. Right?
And yes, people hold grudges against other players or alliances for being faggots, not for beating them in a spreadsheet game.
I never said we had played against Destiny, and i based my thoughts on antigone asking several to block against eX. I even heard it from him.. if that aint hostile then ehm...
That you dont hold grudges may be so.. but alot do.. and if u concider them idiots etc then u have a problem as its a normal feeling to get.. Some people are actually quite competitive and hate loosing.. and when u are in an ally that u truly feel home in and fight another ally so intensly ALOT develops hate.. ask most 1ups (got same feeling when i was in CT, always heated discussiongs regarding 1up-eX.. if u need to ask 1 peep go ask Forest).. My referance to u as an idiot is because thinking that because u dont hold grudges and that u see it as childish is very blind... People have grudges no matter if its a game or rl... Thats cause people grow into the alliances they play and also have an extreme competitive feeling, and thats whats a part of making this game fun and exciting

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If this were true there would already be an anti eXi block but in reality there is not. There are several individuals that would like to see something along the lines of OPERATION MAKE eXi LOSE but no one wants to work out the details of how that would happen. Besides most of the 1up players have retired or moved on to other alliances. eXi will win and it won't even be a challenge. The only real fun you are going to get is on these forums.
Tbh i think that sharing bps and chans is kinda not just in talks of coops against eX.. and when all allies mentioned also refuse to bp with eX then my point is stronger backed up.. If they feel they have to block so big then so be it, I just hope that they know the block needs to be broken IF they beat eX as if not they have possibly destroyed this round with stagnation and sent pa even closer to closure
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Highly likely they've already started planning on how best to backstab each other after it's done so they can win instead of focusing on the task that needs doing.
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I think that primarily he understands how to serve the best interest of his own alliance without demanding that others bend over backwards to do serve it as well. Not a lot of people take this approach to diplomacy in PA, and even of those that do, none rival Barrow.
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I've worked with Barrow myself and I have to agree with jester. I was going to try to get hold of him and make join my bp this round but he's no easy guy to reach. He's probably out there somewhere, hunting golden roids...
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I never said we had played against Destiny, and i based my thoughts on antigone asking several to block against eX. I even heard it from him.. if that aint hostile then ehm...
I asked several allys to block vs. eX? that is just amusing once again...Foxmans propaganda seems to reach the borders of exilition just in time. Destiny is an independent alliance, we care shit about any blocks nor did we ask alliances to get up a block vs. you. Its not that you wouldnt have your allies to take care of others If there is a block just counterblock and dont drag other players in the dirt...seriously!
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I never said we had played against Destiny, and i based my thoughts on antigone asking several to block against eX. I even heard it from him.. if that aint hostile then ehm...
ok fine you can mark down Destiny as being hostile because Antigone is apparently trying to get an anti-eX block in order for his alliance to stand a chance. The vision stuff was bull and the VS stuff is also mainly bull as, like Travler pointed out, most 1up players are gone.

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That you dont hold grudges may be so.. but alot do.. and if u concider them idiots etc then u have a problem as its a normal feeling to get.. Some people are actually quite competitive and hate loosing.. and when u are in an ally that u truly feel home in and fight another ally so intensly ALOT develops hate.. ask most 1ups (got same feeling when i was in CT, always heated discussiongs regarding 1up-eX.. if u need to ask 1 peep go ask Forest).. My referance to u as an idiot is because thinking that because u dont hold grudges and that u see it as childish is very blind... People have grudges no matter if its a game or rl... Thats cause people grow into the alliances they play and also have an extreme competitive feeling, and thats whats a part of making this game fun and exciting
I still maintain that hating people and instantly starting a block against them because they beat you 5, 8 and 10 rounds ago is stupid and to be honest, the only alliances I've seen hold grudges like this are eXi and Angels. Last time I checked most alliances wiped their political slate at the start of each round but eXi always seemed retardedly anti 1up (anyone remember logs from SkyHead's BG's meeting in round 14? "keep your anti 1up spirit, we're in their block!") and it's pretty stupid.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

I'm sorry Kila, but far from all people are sensible in that way. Believe it or not, but tons of people who should know better (Myself included) hold grudges from way back. This is also something you would have noticed if you ever had to try cooperating with people who dislike you for no other reason than you being in, or having been in an alliance they have bad memories of.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

I knew that it was the case for Angels and people hating on them for backstabbing everyone, which meant that no alliances wanted to co-operate with them in later rounds. I just didn't think that people in this game would be petty enough to hate someone for beating them at a spreadsheet game.
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I knew that it was the case for Angels and people hating on them for backstabbing everyone, which meant that no alliances wanted to co-operate with them in later rounds. I just didn't think that people in this game would be petty enough to hate someone for beating them at a spreadsheet game.
And that coming from YOU who was one of the most vocal persons on this forum that kept saying we only don't play 2 rounds in a row because we fear the wrath of all the alliance that we beat?
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And that coming from YOU who was one of the most vocal persons on this forum that kept saying we only don't play 2 rounds in a row because we fear the wrath of all the alliance that we beat?
I may have posted once or twice saying that you not playing 2 rounds in a row makes it easier for you to win (no hate for winning previous round, and you get a round's break) but what does that have to do with what you quoted?
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and when u are in an ally that u truly feel home in and fight another ally so intensly ALOT develops hate.. ask most 1ups (got same feeling when i was in CT, always heated discussiongs regarding 1up-eX.. if u need to ask 1 peep go ask Forest).. My referance to u as an idiot is because thinking that because u dont hold grudges and that u see it as childish is very blind... People have grudges no matter if its a game or rl...
I think you miss the point somewhat.

I don't hate Exi and want them to lose through hate.

I want to be battling against them because at this time in the game they are the best. And I just don't see the point in playing if you are not using the best as your yardstick.
What else to use? Measure oursleves against f-crew (or other random alliance)? What would be the point?

I want to be against the best, and I will either win against the best or I will fail knowing I did my best.
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but eXi always seemed retardedly anti 1up (anyone remember logs from SkyHead's BG's meeting in round 14? "keep your anti 1up spirit, we're in their block!") and it's pretty stupid.
And 1up seemed retardedly anti-eX during the rounds *exilition did play* Round 14 eX didn't play. That wouldn't have been kosher in an eX round. Noone of the eX HC ever said anything remotely that retarded.
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I still maintain that hating people and instantly starting a block against them because they beat you 5, 8 and 10 rounds ago is stupid and to be honest, the only alliances I've seen hold grudges like this are eXi and Angels. Last time I checked most alliances wiped their political slate at the start of each round but eXi always seemed retardedly anti 1up (anyone remember logs from SkyHead's BG's meeting in round 14? "keep your anti 1up spirit, we're in their block!") and it's pretty stupid.
Again, Exi went for 1up knowing that that was the alliance to beat in order to win.

I dont think thats bred from hate, but by being direct enemies at a time when no other alliance could cope with either of us.
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I think you miss the point somewhat.

I don't hate Exi and want them to lose through hate.

I want to be battling against them because at this time in the game they are the best. And I just don't see the point in playing if you are not using the best as your yardstick.
What else to use? Measure oursleves against f-crew (or other random alliance)? What would be the point?

I want to be against the best, and I will either win against the best or I will fail knowing I did my best.
Thats a good reason. Unfortunatley with the exception of R19 eXi did not win purely on the basis of wanting to beat 1up. eXi use the anti 1up sentiment caused by 1up winning each round preceding eXi playing.

R19 was won by eXi because they were the best and wanted to prove they could win 2 rounds in a row. This round they have little to prove as no current alliance playing has won by beating another alliance on its own. This round is more like bowling for eXi as the real challenge for them is to see if they can play a perfect game just like in bowling where the real challenge is to bowl a perfect 300 game.
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Right, to clear that stuff that was typed about me whilst I was in Estonia due to bussnies.
Why I don't play for InSomnia?
I'we retiered from pa. And with my current willingness, time and careing about this game I simply fealt InSomnia would be better off without me.
As I did used to HC, and play in InSomnia(the ONLY right thing about me in this threat? no1 meantioned me beein a count yet..), it is my view that they only schould have me as a player/officer/hc/scanner if I can give the propper commitment I would like to give an alliance I do care about that mutch.
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I don't.
I scan, and help out if Almeida needs me to, as I promissed him a good while ago.

So what does this make me for this round? Inactive is my guess, just as the same as rounds that's been played lately..

Tbh, I would like to get access(again, since I did used to play a bit of CS with eXi ages ago) to the chan I'm suposedly scanning for multiple alliances in
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I scan, and help out if Almeida needs me to, as I promissed him a good while ago.

So what does this make me for this round?
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I knew that it was the case for Angels and people hating on them for backstabbing everyone, which meant that no alliances wanted to co-operate with them in later rounds. I just didn't think that people in this game would be petty enough to hate someone for beating them at a spreadsheet game.
Backstabbing everyone? People have backstabbed each other in this game since the very start, some backstabs were forgiven or forgotten and others weren't. Holding grudges for being backstabbed is fair enough, in my opinion (Fool me once etc), or at least being cautious. The grudges I hold are for what I would call backstabs. That's not what this is about though.

I can guarantee you that there are a lot of people who are petty enough to hate (Or at least dislike, distrust or work against) someone for beating them, be it at chess, some football game, or for having felt slighted by them in one way or another. Reason tells me that some of these people play Planetarion, and experience tends to agree.
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Shady dealings are 'wrong' when your alliance boasts being the best solo.

Also, Cartman. lol. You seem more out of touch than myself regarding anti-1up/pro-1up sentiment.

It was always easier to build anti-1up sentiment than anti-eXilition.

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wow that is the funniest line i have ever seen coming from Alki!!!!!!

iam sorry iam going off topic, but this really is priceless
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Backstabbing everyone? People have backstabbed each other in this game since the very start, some backstabs were forgiven or forgotten and others weren't. Holding grudges for being backstabbed is fair enough, in my opinion (Fool me once etc), or at least being cautious. The grudges I hold are for what I would call backstabs. That's not what this is about though.
It did come across as too anti Angels, I just remember that during round 19, ND and Omen were refusing to co-operate with Angels because they thought that Angels would backstab them as they had been "renowned for doing" if you will.

Yes there are things that holding grudges for is fine, like backstabbing. I hold grudges against people who I think are complete morons and think that's fine, but holding grudges against people for beating you at a game is petty.
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also I'd like to commend the anti eXi block (if it even exists) on the great job they're doing, you've made a whole 23 members tag up! good going guys!
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also I'd like to commend the anti eXi block (if it even exists) on the great job they're doing, you've made a whole 23 members tag up! good going guys!
There is about as big a "anti eX block" as there is a eX block tbh. If that answers ur question.
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well, if I assume that most of the rumours here are true, it's 4 vs 4! except eXi have allied with crappy allies who are content to flak for them as per usual (hi Subh + HR round 15)
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Shhhhh!!!!! The anti eXi block will be revealed too soon. In the shadows they must wait.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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well, if I assume that most of the rumours here are true, it's 4 vs 4! except eXi have allied with crappy allies who are content to flak for them as per usual (hi Subh + HR round 15)
id assume that the rumours arent true then, if I were you :|
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It did come across as too anti Angels, I just remember that during round 19, ND and Omen were refusing to co-operate with Angels because they thought that Angels would backstab them as they had been "renowned for doing" if you will.
No offense taken, if that's what you were worried about. I know fully well the reputation we had. I also know that people refused to cooperate with FO because of this reputation even though the HC was entirely new. I don't blame them but at the same time it felt unjustified, none of our HC had anything to do with the decisions that gave us the reputation.

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Yes there are things that holding grudges for is fine, like backstabbing. I hold grudges against people who I think are complete morons and think that's fine, but holding grudges against people for beating you at a game is petty.
Where to draw the line, though?

Some people hold grudges for what they deem to be overblocking. Some people hold grudges against entire alliances because they don't like one of the HC, or some of the members. Maybe someone holds grudges for being under attack constantly for a week, or for losing after spending a significant portion of a round online and losing because of what they would call dirty tricks (Back to overblocking, maybe throw in some support planet drivel, etc.).

Maybe you could say petty, but I can't say I don't understand it at all. And there is no evidence that suggests everyone playing this game on a serious level are honorable, just people, and would never hold a grudge for a bad reason. Taking a guess, I'd say a large amount of people (Among them probably officers and HC) hold grudges from many years back. I don't say that this is justified or anything, and some things might be forgiven or forgotten, but the impression of people from back then will still lurk in the back of their heads.

Personally I stick to the opinion that holding grudges against a person is (to some extent) fine, but not against a group of people where a lot of them might never have given me a reason to do so, but I don't think that 100% of the players with influence in Planetarion have the same point of view.
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I still maintain that hating people and instantly starting a block against them because they beat you 5, 8 and 10 rounds ago is stupid and to be honest, the only alliances I've seen hold grudges like this are eXi and Angels. Last time I checked most alliances wiped their political slate at the start of each round but eXi always seemed retardedly anti 1up (anyone remember logs from SkyHead's BG's meeting in round 14? "keep your anti 1up spirit, we're in their block!") and it's pretty stupid.
I think I did a pretty good job, they quit, VS or Ministry next.


Nah on a serious note, you guys gonna stick around for long?
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I think I did a pretty good job, they quit, VS or Ministry next.


Nah on a serious note, you guys gonna stick around for long?
like anything you could do could even remotely affect us

we're sticking round here aslong as we see fit
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like anything you could do could even remotely affect us

we're sticking round here aslong as we see fit

I could always join you
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

so who is runing exi and who are their core members?
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eXilition are running eXilition and eXilition are their core members.
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Re: Destiny and eXilition

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No offense taken, if that's what you were worried about. I know fully well the reputation we had. I also know that people refused to cooperate with FO because of this reputation even though the HC was entirely new. I don't blame them but at the same time it felt unjustified, none of our HC had anything to do with the decisions that gave us the reputation.



Where to draw the line, though?

Some people hold grudges for what they deem to be overblocking. Some people hold grudges against entire alliances because they don't like one of the HC, or some of the members. Maybe someone holds grudges for being under attack constantly for a week, or for losing after spending a significant portion of a round online and losing because of what they would call dirty tricks (Back to overblocking, maybe throw in some support planet drivel, etc.).

Maybe you could say petty, but I can't say I don't understand it at all. And there is no evidence that suggests everyone playing this game on a serious level are honorable, just people, and would never hold a grudge for a bad reason. Taking a guess, I'd say a large amount of people (Among them probably officers and HC) hold grudges from many years back. I don't say that this is justified or anything, and some things might be forgiven or forgotten, but the impression of people from back then will still lurk in the back of their heads.

Personally I stick to the opinion that holding grudges against a person is (to some extent) fine, but not against a group of people where a lot of them might never have given me a reason to do so, but I don't think that 100% of the players with influence in Planetarion have the same point of view.

I'd like to quote this for truth.

Just look at the way how Dragons and ministrians (or whatever etc) look at eachother

That grudge will never go away.
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