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Unread 23 May 2007, 22:11   #51
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Re: Free Round 22

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Do we keep on giving him new chances until he finally manages to come up with something balanced? With those fixes you mentioned above we might aswell go back to 4 races and remove xan alltogether seeing as we are heading that way anyways.
Don't get rid of Xan their great for noobs/newbies!
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Unread 23 May 2007, 22:27   #52
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Don't get rid of Xan their great for noobs/newbies!

Or even greater for farms given their nature is to loose roids faster than to gain them, apparently.
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Re: Free Round 22

And this is relevant... how?

(Rhetorical question)
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Re: Free Round 22

Oh.... Really?

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Unread 26 May 2007, 17:24   #55
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Re: Free Round 22

The free round is tempting.
But it's nice to hear that there is another free round after a while. Shows that Jolt is caring a bit about the community, not only about the money
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Re: Free Round 22

not really. the shorter the rounds the more they can fit in a year, the more money comes in.
so trust me, the free round doesnt come out of the generous institution that jolt is, but out of the pockets of everybody payng same fees but for shorter rounds.
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Re: Free Round 22

You're probably wrong there. Actually Jolt probably couldn't give a shit. Actually, I doubt Jolt has the slightest piss****ing clue on what's really going around nowadays, they're all relying on what Appocomaster or any other halfminded monkey of the administrative team tells them.

Beyond that, it's just some creative mind (again, probably just Appoco here, as the rest of them are by far useless morons) whining long enough to Jolt for a free round on some ridiculous basis (OMG MORE PLAYERZ LOLOLOLO), whilst actually it has shit at all effect.

So, you can just count the free round as some kind of a pay three pay two with the lithuanians -effect.
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Unread 1 Jun 2007, 22:04   #58
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Re: Free Round 22

imo free rounds are always welcome....some players will leave because of vac/exams/etc etc and others will come back..id say lets stop whinning and enjoy the round
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Re: Free Round 22

Well, the fact that r22 is free has convinced me to come back to try it out, but i was never exactly significant before i quit after r7. But, judging from what i've read so far, unless there are big changes to make the game more fun, and less predictable, i won't be hanging around in r23. Some of the features seem overcomplicated without enough explanation (population, govt types) and others seem too boring or unrealistic (combat, ship stats). There are lots of new features and ideas that could be implemented to make the game more interesting, more dynamic, and give people lots of alternative ways of playing. To name a few without going into details (i'll probably try and see if anyone in suggestions is listening after posting this), things like trading, hiring out your fleet as mercenaries, selling ships to other players, and actually having cash available, not just raw materials. Anyway, i'll stop rambling and ranting.
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Unread 7 Jun 2007, 20:39   #60
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Re: Free Round 22

Im back for Round22 aswell..

It`s free and i got the time to play it, since summer holidays is coming up have to balance that tho :P

Hope alot of students and other ppl return to make a good summerround.
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Unread 19 Jun 2007, 11:50   #61
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Re: Free Round 22

I doubt if the great alliances of old will be resurrected.
Planet can get monotonous even as it demands a lot of player time.
The players that made up those alliances have had the Planet experience.
Most have now found something else to do.
This gives new players a chance to taste the game at full strength.
And it gives crusteh old vets like me a chance to see what my old life draining obsession has become.
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Unread 19 Jun 2007, 12:44   #62
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Re: Free Round 22

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And the people who quitted because it went pay to play are long gone now.

not all of us...

im back for the free round and i might stay on after depending on how much the game has improved or deteriorated!
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Unread 19 Jun 2007, 12:46   #63
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Re: Free Round 22

Its more of the latter then the first.
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Re: Free Round 22

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Its more of the latter then the first.
As much as I'm up for people voicing their opinions if you're just going to post unconstructive drivel like this I'm going to delete those posts. Personally I think the game is pretty decent these days. The depth in old PA was always about playerbase size. A decent pax round with 10k players would be fairly cool.
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Re: Free Round 22

Heh.
First they try and make the game noob friendly.
Boring, but fair enough.
Then they ruin stats, so the most noob friendly races become harder to play.
Then they introduce PA Sim with this new use of population.

How can this not be ruining the game?
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Re: Free Round 22

JBG has certain points to the fact that during the old rounds the larger playerbase definately came with a positive effect. Where I do agree with Allfather, though, is that more effort should be put into a better, more balanced combat system instead of these all SimPlanet features.
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Re: Free Round 22

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Heh.
First they try and make the game noob friendly.
Boring, but fair enough.
Then they ruin stats, so the most noob friendly races become harder to play.
Then they introduce PA Sim with this new use of population.

How can this not be ruining the game?
I don't even know what you're trying to say. I guess you're opposed to bash limits or something by your first point. Your second one is about stats, there have been good stats rounds recently, r14, 17 and 19 were all reasonable. I don't get how they "made stats noob friendly" though. If you're objecting to population, something which genuinely adds depth in a new area of the game you're probably best off limiting yourself to one-on-one games of checkers or something.
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Re: Free Round 22

They made the game noobfriendly, then they ad this latest idea from the local postsmokingsession about the use of population.
It makes it more difficult for newbies, whats the point of that?
1 step forward, 2 back?
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Re: Free Round 22

Involving new players works in a particular way, I used to talk about this in terms of development for that brief moment I was involved. You have game depth and you have surface features. The surface features such as population need to be sufficiently interesting and intuitively understandable for people to pick them up quickly. We can all understand the basic idea that assigning people to research or production helps speed these things up and this is a fairly simple concept. Then you require there to be sufficient depth to these features to give people different options and methods of playing. It's not even necessary for these features to be balanced presuming everyone has access to them for the whole round and they're not a series of one-shot options such as with government.

You don't make games "noob-friendly", you make them simple on the top, creamy in the middle.
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Involving new players works in a particular way, I used to talk about this in terms of development for that brief moment I was involved. You have game depth and you have surface features. The surface features such as population need to be sufficiently interesting and intuitively understandable for people to pick them up quickly. We can all understand the basic idea that assigning people to research or production helps speed these things up and this is a fairly simple concept. Then you require there to be sufficient depth to these features to give people different options and methods of playing. It's not even necessary for these features to be balanced presuming everyone has access to them for the whole round and they're not a series of one-shot options such as with government.

You don't make games "noob-friendly", you make them simple on the top, creamy in the middle.
A very nice description for the game design rule: "easy to learn, difficult to master".
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No, it's just that, all the threads regarding race advice and tactics and so have disappeared to the database, you'll find them if you search with a nick from the strategy discussions (ie. put a search under strategy discussions for "Tietäjä", "Monroe", or "Ultimate Newbie").
Thankyou for your confidence .

Domin: Each* round i write up a race description that some people find helpful, however due to it still being possible** that the stats arent final, i'm waiting a little while as it takes alot of effort .

Also, the changes with population will also get a guide - i didnt re-do it from the earlier engineering because i knew that last round's (R21) introduction of population was only a first step for this round's implementation. Now i dont have that excuse, so it'll eventually be done .

Both of those will be linked on the Useful Links thread, once they're done, displacing the other threads.


Edit: btw, isnt this AD??
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Re: Free Round 22

free round + mass mailing = more returning players!

ive seen several people pop onto IRC and say they will play this round because they got an e-mail saying that it was a free round.
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Re: Free Round 22

I decided to play because i've finally got the time and will to play again, the free round is just a bonus but i'd still play if it was a pay-round O_o
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