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Unread 22 Nov 2004, 20:18   #1
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ND's New Thread Idea

...Well, not quite. Ages and ages ago, around three months after I first joined the forums, I made the Fighting Dojo, a simple immitation of more established academy threads where students learned the ways of the samurai, which I in fact knew very little about (still know very little about). Anyway, after the Fighting Dojo I made another thread named "The Election". This rather stunted little thread died a quick death which was, for once, not my doing, as it never recieved any replies

However, with the recent excitement of the US Presidential elections, I've started thinking about this old idea of mine again. Now that I know a bit more about politics (shut up Phang) than I did before, I can probably make the thread a lot more interesting for all involved.

So, the premise
I will assemble a small, imaginary nation with its own incumbent government, electoral system, populace (replete with ethnic and social groups, all with their own present political beliefs); issues of foreign policy, taxation and the economy, society, law etcetera.

You RPers then make your own political parties with their own political agendas. We then begin the run up to the election. Along the way there will be event in the this micro-nation's life that you can respond to, all the while organising your own campaigning and manifestos and etcetera. How exactly the campaign procedes is largely up to you. You're expected to work against eachother for election. We're not talking about a fully Westernised country here, so running street battles between the fascist party and the communist party are a possibility, if indeed I get one or both of those.

You can either tailor make a party specifically (reasonably sensible ones only, please), or you can fill out a quick questionaire of my own invention to determine your political views, wherupon I'll give you a party of your own.

Taking the role of a key figure in another RPer's party is a possibility. You could be a campaign manager or a heavy or something.

Anyway, does this sound interesting to anyone?
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Unread 22 Nov 2004, 20:25   #2
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Go for it go for it
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Sure. I'll, ah, take the Nazi party for $100, please. :-p
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I'm in.

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obligatory Spartakist option. sup riot buddy Inspectre :motherland: :worker-councils:
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Unread 22 Nov 2004, 22:32   #6
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I'll have to go figure out what kind of political party I'll be running.

Personally, I somewhat prefer the left wing people... Industrialists, here I come !
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I'll have to go figure out what kind of political party I'll be running.

Personally, I somewhat prefer the left wing people... Industrialists, here I come !
sod off mister 'i'd be the USPD if i wasn't such an awful waste of flesh and oxygen'. the KPD shall have votes, and NONE SHALL GO NEAR YOU.
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Re: ND's New Thread Idea

The left is split! The left is split!
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between the left wing and the free-market capitalists...
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Re: ND's New Thread Idea

We call this "nationstates". Another Jolt game. With many many more RPers. MANY MANY MORE.
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hush you Lakhim, in Nationstates there are no elections to win and I've got 1 to win right now.

My M16 assault rifles, produced by exploited 3rd world workers, will utterly destroy any socialist weapons you might attempt to use.
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Re: ND's New Thread Idea

1)nationstates is THE WORST PLACE ON THE INTERNET THAT IS NOT FARK, DF3.net OR STORMFRONT. (11 banned accounts between the three, get in.). The game is ok and the book is excellent, but the community consist of idiots who can't read, write, or for the most part tolerate jewish people.
2)flapjack, you just summarised exactly WHY NS is the worst place to RP on t'internet. congratulations, you giant phallus of shame.
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We call this "nationstates". Another Jolt game. With many many more RPers. MANY MANY MORE.
Lakhim, nice of you to join us. Now you can't leave! Ahahahahaha!

What kind of party will you be taking, then?
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This sounds very interesting and original. I think I will join, if possible.
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2)flapjack, you just summarised exactly WHY NS is the worst place to RP on t'internet. congratulations, you giant phallus of shame.
Actaully, it's the worst place on the 'net to RP because of all the idiots telling me I can't have lasers 3 days after creating my nation...
They shout at me because it's 'impossible' for a country to develop military strength lasers in just a couple of years.

Ofcourse they haven't seen that military strength lasers already exist, the only problem is their powersupply which I solved by using Polonium fuel rods.

Enough of me bothering you with my lasers now and let's get on the with the RP :P
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This sounds very interesting and original. I think I will join, if possible.
Certainly. Will you be taking the alignment test or making your own party?
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Introduction - Republic of Dachiskana

Background: The historical and cultural roots of the present-day Republic of Dachiskana lie in around the 5th Century AD, when a Germanic tribe from the present-day Black Forest broke eastwards and eventually settled on the fertile plains east of the Carpathian Mountains. Culturally-separate from the peoples surrounding them - themselves descended from the nomadic Steppe tribes - the Dachiskanans retained a sense of particularism relating to their ethnic identity throughout the Middle Ages and the Early Modern Age, where they fell respectfully under the rule of Kievan Rus (then, later, the Mongol Golden Horde), and subsequently the Polish Commonwealth. It was in the 17th Century that the region of Dachiskana fell finally to the influence of Muscovy, and was absorbed into an ever-growing Tsarist Russia. After having been signed away to the German Empire in the Treaty of Brest-Litvosk signed by Lenin's regime in 1917, Dachiskana enjoyed brief independence following the collapse of German military presence in the east, but was quickly subjugated by the USSR a year later. Dachiskana's primarily agricultural economy suffered greatly from the Ukrainian famines of 1921-22 and 1932-33, and was the scene of protracted heavy fighting through several years of the Second World War, which left its capital city, Dachinaproveskov, in a state of almost total ruin. Fortunatly, considerable post-war reconstruction by the Soviet regime and subsequent investment in industry allowed Dachiskana to develope. Following the dissolution of the USSR toward the end of the 20th Century, Dachiskana broke away from Russian administration to form the Republic of Dachiskana. Considerable Russian influence, however, remains to this day. Long-standing protection packs with the Ukraine and Belarus do little to counteract the fear of living in the shadow of the still powerful Russian military, and economically Dachiskana is highly dependent on imported Russian raw materials to sustain its current, industrial manufacture-based economy. Dachiskana at the moment stands at a crossroads, balancing the benefits of an increased relationship with Europe against the benefits of continued Russian influence, with the possibility of integration - federal or centralised - with either on the cards.

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Re: ND's New Thread Idea

I would certainly like to have a look at the test to see what sort of issues I need to have an opinion about, but I think I will be making my own party.
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I want to play!

I will opt to be fluffie's faithful and diehard advocate. I completely trust his political reasonings.

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1)nationstates is THE WORST PLACE ON THE INTERNET THAT IS NOT FARK, DF3.net OR STORMFRONT. (11 banned accounts between the three, get in.). The game is ok and the book is excellent, but the community consist of idiots who can't read, write, or for the most part tolerate jewish people.
2)flapjack, you just summarised exactly WHY NS is the worst place to RP on t'internet. congratulations, you giant phallus of shame.
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Well i dont know about yous guys but a possible power hungry general who would support the most militant canidate, or if they aren't militant enough well run for office himself. Plus plenty of fun with that. I call it if it possible.
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I, Urquanov, am going where the money is, so I'll be representing the conservative industrialists.

Also, do we need to have character descriptions? I suppose we do, but I'm not making one unless I have to.

Incidentally, isn't anyone going for the religious fanatics?
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I want to play!

I will opt to be fluffie's faithful and diehard advocate. I completely trust his political reasonings.

"The time to play the moose is over."
I prolly could use some help besides my "KILL ALL" attitude
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well i have the kill all equitment so blah
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Power hungry general is not an option. You need to be either the leader of a political party or an affiliate of one.
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well what about a general with party affliations
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Okay, I should have the basic outline of all of this done by the weekend, and I'll be writing the alignment test tomorrow.
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What part of "power hungry general is not an option" do you have difficulty understanding? When I say "party affiliates", I do in fact mean "party underlings", not powerful military figures with thousands of troops at their disposal.
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what about military underlings with only hunderds of men under there comand.
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what about military underlings with only hunderds of men under there comand.
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well paramliatry units have been known to get involved in elections, especially in eastern europe, see slovadan malocivich.
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well paramliatry units have been known to get involved in elections, especially in eastern europe, see slovadan malocivich.
listen.

NO.

now, either play the game or **** OFF.
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I think I've been patient enough here. See Phang's response for an idea of what mine would be.
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can I get my terrori... I mean CIA teams to bust him for some breaking of the law, then having to shoot him because he resisted by sneezing??

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No. I don't think you or Mao quite understand what this thread is about:

Political parties seeking election.

CIA teams are not at your disposal. You do not have any troops under your command. You do not produce M16 rifles.
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I'd be more than happy to have you join, DJ, since I'm reasonably sure you're not going to try and pull off some kind of improbable military coup like these two appear to be envisioning.
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ND's Political Alignment Test
This quick, simple test gives me a rough idea of the position of your own political mindset on the alignment scale. Once I've worked out roughly where you stand (or where you seem to stand on the majority of issues), I will reccomend a political party for you with its own short background, wherupon you can take it as it is, change the name around or whatever, or indeed just make your own party anyway. The test is divided up into various different areas to help me come up with a specific alignment that's compatible with most of your views. In each case, select the option (A, B, C, D or E) that best sums up your views on the matter.

It's designed to give me a rough picture of your trend core political ideologies, from which I then form a political party. It's not perfect so it may well be that I'm not sure where you are after you answer it, in which case I'll follow up with some specific questions tailor-made for you yourself based on your previous answers.

The Economy
1. The free market is the most efficient economic model currently available.

A - I agree completely.
B - I agree, but it has its problems.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - The free market isn't working, we need economic reform.
E - The free market is completely unnacceptable, major economic reform is needed.


2. In terms of the international economy, free trade is the way forward.

A - I agree completely.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I'm all for international trade, but you've got to protect your own interests with subsidies and such.
E - Free trade is the main reason Dachiskana's economy is in such a bad state at the moment.


3. Big, multinational corporations are great.

A - I agree completely.
B - I agree at the moment. Our economy needs the stimulus.
C - Multinationals can be a good thing for the economy as a whole in some circumstances, but they have to be watched.
D - Multinationals are bad and need to be regulated, and then watched carefully, to make sure they don't do too much damage.
E - Multinational corporations are one of the main problems with the world today. They're a tool of suffering.


4. One of the main purposes of the government is to reduce inequality of wealth.

A - I agree. All wealth to the proletariat!
B - I agree, but not strongly. I think it's something the government should do, but not a main objective.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree.
E - I disagree strongly. The government should only provide what the free market can't; things like defense. Poor people can rot in hell. They're all lazy.


5. Globalisation is a good thing.

A - I agree strongly.
B - I agree, but not strongly. Fair trade is important.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree. Globalisation is good for multinational corporations and bad for everyone else.
E - I disagreee strongly.


6. The free market is incapable of providing us with services such as health and education in an acceptable manner. These should be provided universally by the government.

A - I agree strongly.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree.
E - I disagree strongly.


Society
1. Religion is still an important and desirable aspect of society in today's world.

A - I agree strongly.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree.
E - I disagree strongly! Religion is the opiate of the masses!


2. Religion has no place in the government of a modern-day nation.

A - I agree strongly.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on his matter.
D - I disagree.
E - I disagree completely.


3. My nation's people are superior in many respects to those of other nations.

A - I agree strongly.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree.
E - I disagree strongly.


4. The purpose of the police force is...

A - To destroy crime, and those who perpetrate it! Rah!
B - To protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation from criminals.
C - To watch the people of this nation, and make sure they do the right thing.
D - To reinforce the authority of the government.
E - To protect us from crime, but also more importantly from things like terrorism.


5. The purpose of the education system is...

A - To instill in our youth the correct values of our society.
B - To instill in our youth the respect for authority that society requires.
C - To educate our youth, and turn them into an efficient future labour pool.
D - To educate our youth and smite ignorance, turning them into knowledgeable adults.
E - To educate our youth and smite foolishness, turning them into rational and thoughtful adults.


6. Homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

A - I agree, because marriage is a Christian tradition and the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong.
B - I agree, because homoseuxals shouldn't enjoy the legal rights of married heterosexual couples.
C - I agree, because I really ****ing hate those damn queers.
D - I disagree, we're all human.
E - I disagree strongly. There is no sane and rational argument for a homosexual couple in a loving and stable long-term relationship not being able to enter into marriage and enjoy the legal rights thereof.


7. The state should not allow its citizens to intentionally harm themselves for their own enjoyment, for example by smoking.

A - I strongly agree.
B- I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree, but not strongly.
E - I strongly disagree.


8. I think that rehabilitating criminals is just as important as punishing them.

A - I strongly agree.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree, but not strongly.
E - I strongly disagree.


Politics
1. I believe that people in general are flawed, and need to be encouraged or made to do (by the state) what is best for them.

A - I strongly agree. The state is there to make sure people do the right thing.
B - I agree. The state is there to make safeguard the peoples' interests - they don't always know enough to do that on their own.
C - I kind of agree, but who's to say what exactly is best for them?
D - I disagree. People in general are good, and will do fine in most activities if left to their own devices.
E - I strongly disagree. People are born good, then corrupted by this society of injustice that the state protects.


2. Democracy is...

A - An excellent thing! A nation without democracy is a nation without freedom!
B - A good thing, especially given the alternatives.
C - A good thing, but too much of it is bad.
D - Good or bad, depending on circumstance.
E - A bad thing.


3. The state must always put the interests of its own people above the interests of those of other nations.

A - I strongly agree.
B - I agree, but not strongly.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree, but not strongly.
E - I strongly disagree.


4. Political parties should not be able to accept funding from large corporations.

A - Damn straight, it's a recipe for corruption.
B - I agree, but not strongly. I don't think that's the kind of thing we want going on in democracy.
C - I have no opinion on this matter.
D - I disagree, but not strongly.
E - I disagree strongly.


5. Democratic elections are the only legitimate way for a political organisation to gain power.

A - I agree completely.
B - I agree in principle, but in some scenarios I suppose other methods would be perfectly acceptable.
C - What if there's no democracy? What then? I think it depends largely on circumstance, though democracy is probably the best way.
D - I disagree.
E - I completely disagree.
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I was wondering if it's going to be possible to use party funds to play dirty tricks on opponents. Or just generally spread lies about someone, it is after all, an integral part of politics, isn't it?
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he, I'll be the industriallist party

then I can 'convince' the US government that a certain opposing partymember is a threat to their security.

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As for the test, do you want our personal views or the ones for the character/party we'll be playing? I can't speak for everyone, but there should be quite a difference between the two.
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I was wondering if it's going to be possible to use party funds to play dirty tricks on opponents. Or just generally spread lies about someone, it is after all, an integral part of politics, isn't it?
That's certainly going to be possible, yes.

Flapjack: You try it. Go to the US Embassy and try it. Go up to the US Ambassador and say:

"Mr Ambassador, I am an industrialist, please dispatch several SEAL Teams and the CIA to help me gain election."

...And see how far it gets you.
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As for the test, do you want our personal views or the ones for the character/party we'll be playing? I can't speak for everyone, but there should be quite a difference between the two.
Actually, when it comes to the party's views. Do you wish to know the ones that we would like for the people to hold true or the one we truely stand for but wish for the people NOT to know? Or am I going about this a little too 'professional' now?
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UQ: The test is mainly designed for people who want a party that represents their own personal views, but aren't sure exactly how to classify those views in terms of a core ideology for the party to use. As such it's designed for you to answer as you personally would do. If you have a good idea for a party already then by all means run that one past me.
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Actually, I'll take the randian libs. Those are so much more fun.

The Economy
1. The free market is the most efficient economic model currently available.

A - I agree completely.

2. In terms of the international economy, free trade is the way forward.

A - I agree completely.

3. Big, multinational corporations are great.

A - I agree completely.

E - I disagree strongly. The government should only provide what the free market can't; things like defense. Poor people can rot in hell. They're all lazy.

5. Globalisation is a good thing.

A - I agree strongly.

6. The free market is incapable of providing us with services such as health and education in an acceptable manner. These should be provided universally by the government.

E - I disagree strongly.

Society
1. Religion is still an important and desirable aspect of society in today's world.

E - I disagree strongly! Religion is the opiate of the masses!

2. Religion has no place in the government of a modern-day nation.

A - I agree strongly.

3. My nation's people are superior in many respects to those of other nations.

A - I agree strongly.

4. The purpose of the police force is...

B - To protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation from criminals.


5. The purpose of the education system is...

E - To educate our youth and smite foolishness, turning them into rational and thoughtful adults.

6. Homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.


E - I disagree strongly. There is no sane and rational argument for a homosexual couple in a loving and stable long-term relationship not being able to enter into marriage and enjoy the legal rights thereof.


7. The state should not allow its citizens to intentionally harm themselves for their own enjoyment, for example by smoking.

E - I strongly disagree.

8. I think that rehabilitating criminals is just as important as punishing them.

A - I strongly agree.

Politics
1. I believe that people in general are flawed, and need to be encouraged or made to do (by the state) what is best for them.

D - I disagree. People in general are good, and will do fine in most activities if left to their own devices.


2. Democracy is...

A - An excellent thing! A nation without democracy is a nation without freedom!

3. The state must always put the interests of its own people above the interests of those of other nations.

A - Agree strongly

4. Political parties should not be able to accept funding from large corporations.

E - I disagree strongly.


5. Democratic elections are the only legitimate way for a political organisation to gain power.

A - I agree completely.
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Re: ND's New Thread Idea

Just t say, Lakhim, you never finished the questionaaire

There are a total of 19 questions, not 18

1. B
2. E
3. D
4. E
5. B
6. A
7. A
8. E
9. C
10. B
11. C
12. B
13. D (c'mon, a life without alcohol, weed or tobacco? Sounds like hell to me)
14. B
15. C
16. B
17. A
18. A
19. B
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Hmm, I missed one...
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The Economy
1. The free market is the most efficient economic model currently available.

B - I agree, but it has its problems.


2. In terms of the international economy, free trade is the way forward.

A - I agree completely.


3. Big, multinational corporations are great.

B - I agree at the moment. Our economy needs the stimulus.


4. One of the main purposes of the government is to reduce inequality of wealth.

B - I agree, but not strongly. I think it's something the government should do, but not a main objective.


5. Globalisation is a good thing.

B - I agree, but not strongly. Fair trade is important.


6. The free market is incapable of providing us with services such as health and education in an acceptable manner. These should be provided universally by the government.

A - I agree strongly.


Society
1. Religion is still an important and desirable aspect of society in today's world.

E - I disagree strongly! Religion is the opiate of the masses!


2. Religion has no place in the government of a modern-day nation.

A - I agree strongly.


3. My nation's people are superior in many respects to those of other nations.

E - I disagree strongly.


4. The purpose of the police force is...

C - To watch the people of this nation, and make sure they do the right thing.


5. The purpose of the education system is...

E - To educate our youth and smite foolishness, turning them into rational and thoughtful adults.


6. Homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

E - I disagree strongly. There is no sane and rational argument for a homosexual couple in a loving and stable long-term relationship not being able to enter into marriage and enjoy the legal rights thereof.


7. The state should not allow its citizens to intentionally harm themselves for their own enjoyment, for example by smoking.

C - I have no opinion on this matter.


8. I think that rehabilitating criminals is just as important as punishing them.

A - I strongly agree.


Politics
1. I believe that people in general are flawed, and need to be encouraged or made to do (by the state) what is best for them.

C - I kind of agree, but who's to say what exactly is best for them?


2. Democracy is...

B - A good thing, especially given the alternatives.


3. The state must always put the interests of its own people above the interests of those of other nations.

B - I agree, but not strongly.


4. Political parties should not be able to accept funding from large corporations.

A - Damn straight, it's a recipe for corruption.


5. Democratic elections are the only legitimate way for a political organisation to gain power.

C - What if there's no democracy? What then? I think it depends largely on circumstance, though democracy is probably the best way.
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UQ, you don't see me saying that? You'd just hire an informant for the CIA. They don't have to know I'm the person who gains from their actions. In fact, I probably don't even want them to know that.

anyways:
Political party name: Free industrialists

goals: To win the election and then to massively improve this country's economical situation, solving problems such as a low education level and high unemployment levels. Also the liberalisation of public transport and healthcare to improve its quality and reduce the costs. Last but not least, with the decrease of government spending, we will be able to finance a DROP IN TAXES.

History: The Free Industrialists is financed mostly by big multinationals, though they're telling everyone that they're financing from personal funds and national corporations. The Free Industrialists has not been in the election before, as they didn't have the $$$ to spend millions on 'marketing' to gain votes. Most importantly of all, they're actaully honest about their goals and will try to keep them to the best of their abilities.

ooc/ Promise people a drop in taxes and improvement of wellfare levels and they'll rush to vote for ya /ooc
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<Walrus> Let's all poke him next time he appears.
<Heiro> I think that is wise, Master Walrus

<Gryffin> ungrateful wretches
<Gryffin> they should be here!
<Gryffin> so I can grace them with my presence
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