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Unread 21 Sep 2010, 19:41   #1
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Medicinal Marijuana

A few years ago the State of California passed the "Compassionate Marijuana Use" initiative. It made it leagal, as far as the Great State of California was concerned, for individuals with a serious illness which could be helped, or the suffering caused by it alleviated, to possess and consume marijuana if such were prescribed by their doctor.

Not surprisingly, this led to many doctors prescribing marijuana for the use of anyone who came into their office and gave them any glimmer of a reason for wanting it. Thus it is now leagal for virtually any citizen to obtain marijuana legally in the state of California.

In November, the citizens of California will vote on whether or not to fully legalize possession and use of marijuana in the state. I am not clear what the status the law proposes for selling marijuana. This probably will, and in view of the current state of events, should pass.

Again, not surprisingly, the use of marijuana has jumped in California, though I don't know how they have calculated this "jump." Interestingly, the use of methamphetamines has also "jumped" similarly though its use, possession and sale are still forbidden.

It raises interesting conjectures. Is marijuana use up because of its semi-legalization? Is meth use up because marijuana use is up? Is mariuana use up because meth use is up? Are they totally unrelated? Does anyone really care?

What I have found facinating has been the attitude of politicians at the state and local level. Even some social conservatives are embracing the legalization of marijuana. The reason? Because taxing the sale of marijuana plus licensing fees for growers and sellers will add a large revenue stream for said politicians.

They are talking about having a 25% sales tax on it.

Since conservatives are supposed to be for smaller, more restricted government with fewer and smaller taxes, it is very amusing to watch many of them planning taxes and how to spend more money.

Liberals profess to be greatly concerned with the health of the population and have led the fight against tobacco smoking, against trans-fat foods, childhood obesity, etc. However, they don't seem to have any concern about the effects of additional consumption of a product which is smoked and by all reports causes people to engage in rather odd eating habits.

The only group which seems to be consistent are the libertarians who just want government to leave them alone and let them do whatever they please.

Sometimes I think that life is going out of its way to keep me amused.
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Re: Medicinal Marijuana

At first I can't see how meth use and marijuana use can really be linked (different drugs, different effects, etc) besides the supposed 'gateway' that marijuana provides. There again, upon actually considering it, I can't think of another logical explanation than the overall state-wide increase in (certain) drug usage.

In the right hands, marijuana is really quite safe and harmless, however I am concerned about what this means as far as the direction of the country and politics. It will definitely be interesting to follow.

I do agree about the constant amusement life provides
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Re: Medicinal Marijuana

Is the state wide increase just restricted to california? or have other states seen a rise in drug use due to the recession
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Re: Medicinal Marijuana

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Since conservatives are supposed to be for smaller, more restricted government with fewer and smaller taxes, it is very amusing to watch many of them planning taxes and how to spend more money.
That is pretty much a myth. "Smaller government" means cutting welfare for the poor. Reagan run up a massive deficit, as did Bush Jr. The only difference with this mixture of spending and tax cuts was that it primarily benefited the rich.

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Liberals profess to be greatly concerned with the health of the population and have led the fight against tobacco smoking, against trans-fat foods, childhood obesity, etc. However, they don't seem to have any concern about the effects of additional consumption of a product which is smoked and by all reports causes people to engage in rather odd eating habits.
I'm going out on a limb here but I'm assuming the vast majority of obese Americans do not smoke pot. There are other real factors which affect the rate of obesity.

There are also numerous potential benefits which you seem to be ignoring including (but not limited to) the following:
  • increased government revenue from taxes
  • the decriminalisation of pot users
  • the removal of pot from organised crime cash flows
  • the increase in liberty for people to make their own life choices

Alcohol and tobacco are far more harmful than cannabis, therefore it is a perfectly consistent viewpoint that pot users should not be criminalised. If it were to be legally available then you would get the same health warnings/advertising bans/anti-use advertising that you get for alcohol and tobacco.
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