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4 Sep 2005, 21:24
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
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[]LCH[] Announcement
I am sorry to say that a number of []LCH[] members have decided that #4 isnt good enough, or that []LCH[] isnt active enough to continue the last few weeks.
Most of those will be Angels, and some are []LCH[]
I cannot say that Angels pulls a MISTU on us, although its mostly them leaving. To end all speculation, these are the reasons:
- A lot of HC, including Angels HC, simultaniously cannot give enough attention to []LCH[] (holidays, work, RL issues, etc)
- Some Angels dont like #4, so dont see a reason to stay ingame
- A number of members went shamelessly idle
No other reasons.
Whatever remains of []LCH[] this round, will go on till the end of the round. Next round we will be back.
GL to the winner, and give 1up SOME fight at least (i know we tried at least)
[]LCH[] Remy
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4 Sep 2005, 21:30
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Pr0nstar
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
what a shame :/
gl lch :/
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4 Sep 2005, 21:31
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Milan-fan
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Bergen, Norway
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legator
what a shame :/
gl lch :/
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4 Sep 2005, 21:33
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
You played a nice round, I'll give you that, and I'm real pleased that you're gonna return next round.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:33
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Officer of Wolfpack
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: norway / fredrikstad
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Now where will my ships go? what a shame!!!
You gave us a good fight atleast... will be boring without you.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:33
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Howling Rain
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
damnit, this isn't good...
but leaving at this time of the round is bad can't say more
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4 Sep 2005, 21:34
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xVx
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 165
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Ah well, some ppl are just never satisfied - those clearly don't deserve to be in your ally anyway
Gl for rest of the round.
Gl for the next rounds.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: UK , Nottingham
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
the members make the allaince , so if they arnt happy with 4th.........
gl LCH
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4 Sep 2005, 21:37
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thinking, that's all.
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Bit sad that for the last three weeks players could've held on. Everything's so meaningless now with all the scattered alliance players. LCH was actually holding it's own in that respect. It may have comprised of everyone, their cat and their dog as the round began, but it hadn't imported groups mid-round so there was still some sense of who []LCH[] are in the alliance.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:39
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Newdawn ftw \o/
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Norway
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
good luck, LCH.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:40
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Hamburger
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hamburg
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
could we plz blame 1up for this
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4 Sep 2005, 21:40
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U've been Moderated
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
remy tbh for LCH it can only be good to get rid of such quitters and bad alliance players, gl to you and lch in the future (even tho a bit less luck then 1up :P )
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4 Sep 2005, 21:48
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Don't make me declare war
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 2,913
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by genosse27
could we plz blame 1up for this
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That made me laugh
a small happiness in the storm taht is pulkling my flat apart as we speak.
I really should log off tbh
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4 Sep 2005, 21:51
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Hamburger
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hamburg
Posts: 221
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
its AD ;-) if there is no flaming etc it prolly would have been moved to gd \o/
and if u blame 1up for it.. there is a higher chance that the remaining lch'er will stick together
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4 Sep 2005, 21:56
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Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by Remy
- Some Angels dont like #4, so dont see a reason to stay ingame
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LOL, making a scapegoat out of Angels?? Don't try pinning the blame for LCH's demise on us.
Maybe you should look towards your HC actions for their inability to change their politics to suit the alliance, and drop grudges against others, aka 1up.
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4 Sep 2005, 21:59
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Hamburger
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hamburg
Posts: 221
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
i can only agree Colt here.
its just the case that the angels feel less belongingness towards LCH and leave the sinking ship earlier.
u dont leave an alliance whish has temp problems if u are a member for 3 rounds. but if u joined "as a wing" only for 1 round then its easy to leave.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:02
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Ambiguous Anachronism
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by cypher
remy tbh for LCH it can only be good to get rid of such quitters and bad alliance players, gl to you and lch in the future (even tho a bit less luck then 1up :P )
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do i hear you admitting you need luck to beat LCH?
more seriously, i can't agree with remy implying that Angels is the main cause for the split.. tho i am originally more belonging to the LCH part, i must say there are very few members who are NOT frustrated recently, for various reasons. It's probably just that veteran LCH members are used to enduring hard times.
edit: i see Colt and gen were faster expressing the same feeling.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:05
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Xanadu...
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Norge!!
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt
LOL, making a scapegoat out of Angels?? Don't try pinning the blame for LCH's demise on us.
Maybe you should look towards your HC actions for their inability to change their politics to suit the alliance, and drop grudges against others, aka 1up.
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Angels alone was never the problem. It was the activity from everyone in LCH that was the problem.
Including Angels members.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:05
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ND
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
From what I hear, all HC members except Remy agreed to disband LCH. I can't see there being too much life in them now, which is a shame, my respect for them increased immensely this round.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:06
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Up The Hatters!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Kenilworth Road
Posts: 3,012
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Good luck LCH, u did a good round. Lets hope you will come back strengthend from this. This only shows what's been mainly proven this round. That hired mercenaries dont fit well in the political structure of PA.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:06
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U've been Moderated
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: getting sex0red by pretty women
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
i think lch are a good alliance with a lot of potential yes and i know some of their (ex?) hc irl which i respect quite a bit
don't quote me on this i will deny it everywhere else!
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4 Sep 2005, 22:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 360
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
I finally had something reasonable to tell, but then i forgot it!! DUH!
Gl anyways
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4 Sep 2005, 22:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Swansea
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Angels as a entity were not the problem , the problem was a collective inactivity amoung a lot of Angels and LCH members, coupled with a lot of HC unable to put in the required commitment to right it.
I wont give anymore details here, but I am happy to explain in PM for people interested.
edit: I will say I was happy with the effort Angels put in thoughout the round, and if the choice was made again I would take them again.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:17
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Bolivian Alpaca
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 912
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
I don't see how this move benefits either angels or lch. Inactivity was both high in LCH core as in angels.
Our aims were to fight and win as 1 alliance. Sad to see that we can't lose as one alliance, with dignity and accepting the choices we made at the start of the round. I, as Angels member, don't like the way this is ending.
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4 Sep 2005, 22:20
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aka Night-Sky - xVx HC
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: somewhere out there
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
sorry to hear about that remy, good luck the rest of the round
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4 Sep 2005, 22:21
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Its time to roll the dice
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The barn
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
I really hope you can bounce back from this, tho I must admit that I`m a bit tired of hitting the same ally round after round!
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4 Sep 2005, 22:22
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
Posts: 894
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio2k
I don't see how this move benefits either angels or lch. Inactivity was both high in LCH core as in angels.
Our aims were to fight and win as 1 alliance. Sad to see that we can't lose as one alliance, with dignity and accepting the choices we made at the start of the round. I, as Angels member, don't like the way this is ending.
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the move wasn't meant to benefit Angels or LCH, it was meant to bring an end to their round due to inactivity
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4 Sep 2005, 22:25
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ND Ninja!
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London, England
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
aye:| tiz a sad day.. but expected tbh.. its been coming for a while was merely a question of when, its abit demoralizing when your the only person claiming any targets in attack channels maybe cu next round LCH
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4 Sep 2005, 22:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: somewhere
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy
GL to the winner, and give 1up SOME fight at least (i know we tried at least)
[]LCH[] Remy
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atleast you tried, others didn't even bother (yet)
thnx for the round, and gl this round and (if lch is playing)also for any future rounds
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4 Sep 2005, 22:31
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
yes, I should add that LCH was a good opponent, and have my respect this round, too bad to see them go
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4 Sep 2005, 22:51
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: ******
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy
I am sorry to say that a number of []LCH[] members have decided that #4 isnt good enough, or that []LCH[] isnt active enough to continue the last few weeks.
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What wankers.
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I cannot say that Angels pulls a MISTU on us, although its mostly them leaving.
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After round 12 and mistu, this is a bit predictable. I mean, not that it wouldn't have worked if you'd (lol) beaten 1up.
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See the aforementioned comment about self-pleasuring.
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Whatever remains of []LCH[] this round, will go on till the end of the round. Next round we will be back.
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Another round, another loss to chalk up, eh?
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GL to the winner, and give 1up SOME fight at least (i know we tried at least)
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4 Sep 2005, 23:13
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,693
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
what, get back you inactive ****S'
(right now)
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4 Sep 2005, 23:15
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Old Timer
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Your sisters panties
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
maybe if you didnt send out a ingame mail to whole alliance saying lch is giving up fight for #1 halfway thru the round. Or maybe the fact that due to extreme inactiveness you were unable to cover targets, making it nearly impossible for those active members to land on anyone.
Hopefully those are issues you will work out for next round, gl.
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Round 19-20: Ascendancy
Round 21: Quit
Round 30: Ascendancy
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4 Sep 2005, 23:54
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
After reading the replies so far, let me clear a few things out:
- I expressly said Angels is NOT pulling a mistu on us. I also said its MOSTLY them leaving. Some Angels HC have been talking about leaving LCH for more then a week already. Until today, they didnt.
Originally Posted by Remy
- Some Angels dont like #4, so dont see a reason to stay ingame
Colt told you ppl here that i am scapegoating Angels. Im not. But the reality is what i just told you Some Angels HC have been talking about leaving for over week. Since a very good rank was getting more impossible by the day, they wanted to pull together again as angels, in preparation for next round or something. To do so, they wanted to leave LCH ingame,
We stopped them with some talking. But because of the OTHER current problems, there wasnt much left to stop them from doing so.
In general, i think that the Angels who played with LCH this round were for the greater part very good members/partners. Some of them did a hell of a job DC-ing, we had fine attackers ppl from Angels too.
So, fact remains, that some of Angels didnt like #4, so probably quite a few will leave LCH, following their leaders. Any Angel that wants to stick to LCH till the last tick, is welcome to do so.
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5 Sep 2005, 00:12
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Old Timer
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Your sisters panties
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Irvine was an ace DC, LCH could use some like him.
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5 Sep 2005, 00:21
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Behe
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Arizona
Posts: 540
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGoaT
Irvine was an ace DC, LCH could use some like him.
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Irvine is 1 of the main reasons for most of fang and angels successes. I stated in private channel a few weeks ago, every alliance should get to borrow him for a week just so they can see how good he is.
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ND Ninja!
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London, England
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by Fyodor
Irvine is 1 of the main reasons for most of fang and angels successes. I stated in private channel a few weeks ago, every alliance should get to borrow him for a week just so they can see how good he is.
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Agreed Kept LCH alive and running for weeks... without him... the future aint orange thats for sure
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The Scareh Clown
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 275
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Sorry to hear that people cant keep up the fight.
Gl to LCH.
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5 Sep 2005, 02:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Holland
Posts: 44
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Ok people,
The reason why Angels left LCH is simple. Seeing 2 LCH HC's going to vacation for quite some weeks and 2 HC's already left LCH ( before Angels do ) leaving 2 inactive HC's ( scanner ) who aint around most of the time and when I see that the choice for me is simple. Remy said that Angels command wanted to leave and prepare for next round earlier that is true. We wouldnt have left though if those HC's didnt leave. We will go and prepare for next round now....
Good luck LCH next round! Good luck LCH HC's you are still my buddies hope you wont hate me for this.
PS. hmm I posted second time in 1 month time this is bad I should not reply for at least a year anymore!
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Black Power MotherF*ckas!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: JAPAN
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Sad to see this. Hopefully this doesn't result in a dropped player base.
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5 Sep 2005, 07:30
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
Posts: 900
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalie
Ok people,
Good luck LCH next round! Good luck LCH HC's you are still my buddies hope you wont hate me for this.
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We don't hate you. :-)
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Just i hate him!!!
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5 Sep 2005, 09:18
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,269
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy
I am sorry to say that a number of []LCH[] members have decided that #4 isnt good enough, or that []LCH[] isnt active enough to continue the last few weeks.
Most of those will be Angels, and some are []LCH[]
I cannot say that Angels pulls a MISTU on us, although its mostly them leaving. To end all speculation, these are the reasons:
- A lot of HC, including Angels HC, simultaniously cannot give enough attention to []LCH[] (holidays, work, RL issues, etc)
- Some Angels dont like #4, so dont see a reason to stay ingame
- A number of members went shamelessly idle
No other reasons.
Whatever remains of []LCH[] this round, will go on till the end of the round. Next round we will be back.
GL to the winner, and give 1up SOME fight at least (i know we tried at least)
[]LCH[] Remy
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I just realized I got kicked from LCH ingame ... I guess that's a good example of the inactivity I've shown towards LCH this round.
I'm sorry I was unable to put any efforts in this. LCH is a great alliance and they have really nice members (been there before as a member). I was however aware that alot of Angels wanted to play as Angels and not in some sort of merge formula.
I wish all LCH a good remaining of this round and from my part there are no hard feelings or anything.
rgds Kj
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5 Sep 2005, 09:30
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyodor
Irvine is 1 of the main reasons for most of fang and angels successes. I stated in private channel a few weeks ago, every alliance should get to borrow him for a week just so they can see how good he is.
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I think any Angel will agree that Irvine is one of the best (ifnot THE best) DC's in the last few rounds.
Btw as Irvine already announced and some other LCH HC's aswell, Angels command will mostly occupy with the preparations of next round, so it's safe to assume we'll be playing as Angels next round.
And Remy, I think Colt's reaction was more triggered by the fact of some pple yelling we're shipjumpers or that it was only Angels that was unhappy and that we therefor pulled another MISTU.
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5 Sep 2005, 10:16
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
You can't win against 1up with only around 50 ppl online in average on during the day.
We had those figures most of the round. And it got worse last week. Many more people went inactive and we kept fighting. But then even officers went inactive, and our big planets started being banged since there was no defence available.
To those 50ish people that were active, and you know who you are, because we saw the same nicks all the time during the round, this was a great round and we fought with all. If we had had 10-15 more active players it would have been much different. Respect to LCH, we worked as one until this point, and it was really nice fighting along you. As an Angel, i look forward to having your fleet coming at my place for a cup of tea next round .
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5 Sep 2005, 13:25
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
LCH's problem is, in my opinion, a short-termist view of politics.
This round, they attacked 1up before there was any obvious need to do so. They could have waited and let someone else attack 1up first. Or they could have allowed 1up to take a clear lead, forcing everyone else to gang up and take 1up down.
By putting 1up under enough pressure to keep their lead down, but not enough pressure to defeat them, LCH ended up helping 1up. Also, by blocking (or appearing to block) with Insomnia and Hydra, they created a scenario in which 1up could also make NAPs.
LCH were certainly unlucky in their choice of allies - Hydra and Insomnia both imploded, whilst 1up's NAP with Reunion proved more valuable than it initially appeared. But I think this just proves the point: LCH made their decisions too early and were left unable to respond to the changed circumstances later in the round.
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5 Sep 2005, 13:44
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Angels for life !
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by ComradeRob
LCH's problem is, in my opinion, a short-termist view of politics.
This round, they attacked 1up before there was any obvious need to do so. They could have waited and let someone else attack 1up first. Or they could have allowed 1up to take a clear lead, forcing everyone else to gang up and take 1up down.
By putting 1up under enough pressure to keep their lead down, but not enough pressure to defeat them, LCH ended up helping 1up. Also, by blocking (or appearing to block) with Insomnia and Hydra, they created a scenario in which 1up could also make NAPs.
LCH were certainly unlucky in their choice of allies - Hydra and Insomnia both imploded, whilst 1up's NAP with Reunion proved more valuable than it initially appeared. But I think this just proves the point: LCH made their decisions too early and were left unable to respond to the changed circumstances later in the round.
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True, then again it's also easy to say afterwards ... "you should have done this and you shouldn't have done that" ...
And the choice of allies often is an estimated guess and a belief in good faith (e.g. I know the Hc of the other alliance, they seem capable so they'll play a good round). But all in all it's pure guessing, although I agree you can minimize the risks.
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5 Sep 2005, 14:26
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
True, then again it's also easy to say afterwards ... "you should have done this and you shouldn't have done that" ...
And the choice of allies often is an estimated guess and a belief in good faith (e.g. I know the Hc of the other alliance, they seem capable so they'll play a good round). But all in all it's pure guessing, although I agree you can minimize the risks.
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His primary point of cristicism was the too early political intervention LCH took.
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5 Sep 2005, 14:32
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Angels for life !
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
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Originally Posted by Heartless
His primary point of cristicism was the too early political intervention LCH took.
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Yes, I can read ... and my answer is that it's always easy to claim that afterwards, I'm sure Rob would agree to that. Nonetheless he makes a valid point.
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5 Sep 2005, 18:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Oktoberfest :)
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Re: []LCH[] Announcement
sorry that it ended like that, thnaks to Lch for everything.
also sorry that i wasnt to active due to holidays
its wrong to draw any conclusions from this split
Lch and Angels are great we were jsut all to inactive
its faulse to say anything bad about both allainces i realised as its not a round where the true power is shown.
thats same saying anything about 1up while they have 100 members now while they had 60 members only in an "active" round
thanks to all Lch and all playing there under the Lch flag
and yes Irvine is the own
/me still waits for arround 999999999999999 lolipops
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