The Round from CBA's perspective

[Killeah]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Ultores got more roids than fang on their members counting for score by far, how fang gonna outgrow ultores when they dont attack?

They aren't - you're completely missing the point, there's 150 ticks left of round 46. 6 nights of possible fang incs.

We just had 2 of them done with - so 25% of what you can face until EoRC. based on THAT, FanG wont be overtaken by ult, as your current lead is 17,4 mill.

It will take you and avg. loss on counted score of 3 mill a day, this could happen in two ways.

a. FanG crashing like nibs

b. More incs show on FanG than showed the last two nights.

Yes you're absolutely correct that in tick 1440, ult will overtake FanG if the current incs continue, If that's your point then by all means I'll be the first to tell you you're

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!

[Connovar]

Originally Posted by Killeah

They aren't - you're completely missing the point, there's 150 ticks left of round 46. 6 nights of possible fang incs.

We just had 2 of them done with - so 25% of what you can face until EoRC. based on THAT, FanG wont be overtaken by ult, as your current lead is 17,4 mill.

It will take you and avg. loss on counted score of 3 mill a day, this could happen in two ways.

a. FanG crashing like nibs

b. More incs show on FanG than showed the last two nights.

Yes you're absolutely correct that in tick 1440, ult will overtake FanG if the current incs continue, If that's your point then by all means I'll be the first to tell you you're

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!

I dont think fang need to crash value for ultores to win, and the incoming we are receiving is more than sufficient to ensure we dont grow

From a quick scan of 20 ultores planets, roughly 2100 million resources stockpiled between them, putting them already in first position, not including the other 30 counting planets, and resources possibly stored in gal/ally fund...

You also have a significant roid lead, and plenty of other alliances doing whatever they tell them. Ultores will win this round, and by a good margin, id say 10-15 mil points.

Well played ultores, another round won

[eksero]

Originally Posted by Connovar

I dont think fang need to crash value for ultores to win, and the incoming we are receiving is more than sufficient to ensure we dont grow

From a quick scan of 20 ultores planets, roughly 2100 million resources stockpiled between them, putting them already in first position, not including the other 30 counting planets, and resources possibly stored in gal/ally fund...

You also have a significant roid lead, and plenty of other alliances doing whatever they tell them. Ultores will win this round, and by a good margin, id say 10-15 mil points.

Well played ultores, another round won

Thats about 7m scoregain, not 21

[Connovar]

Originally Posted by eksero

Thats about 7m scoregain, not 21

Thats also only from 20 planets

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Thats about 7m scoregain, not 21

so 7 mill score gain x3(seing that only under 1/3 of your allie was scanned, excluding what ever hidden in gal funds and allie fund)+ 10-15mill score gain from the roid advantage you got atm?

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

so 7 mill score gain x3(seing that only under 1/3 of your allie was scanned, excluding what ever hidden in gal funds and allie fund)+ 10-15mill score gain from the roid advantage you got atm?

How can it be x3? That was from 20 planets and 50 count. And to get such an amount from 20 planets, you'd have to scanned the ones with the biggest stocks

And it's not like fang doesn't have anything, last time i checked you had a planet with about 100m each stocked alone.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

How can it be x3? That was from 20 planets and 50 count. And to get such an amount from 20 planets, you'd have to scanned the ones with the biggest stocks

And it's not like fang doesn't have anything, last time i checked you had a planet with about 100m each stocked alone.

well u could say 2,5x then, to be exact, if you want to be picky.
How am i to know who got the biggest stock before i scan?
FAnG spent their res when they got incs, there is little to none left.
You are looking like a fool when you are trying to deny that ultores are currently in the lead for the race for #1 at tick stop, and they lead by a great great great margine atm.

[Kaiba]

If you knew how to calculate anything you would know that even with Ultores prodding that FaNg will still have the score lead. YOu would also know that whilst yes Ultores has more roids its not a ridiculous lead. It will be a close end to the round, FaNG may hang on, Ultores may sneak the win but IT WILL BE CLOSE.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Kaiba

If you knew how to calculate anything you would know that even with Ultores prodding that FaNg will still have the score lead. YOu would also know that whilst yes Ultores has more roids its not a ridiculous lead. It will be a close end to the round, FaNG may hang on, Ultores may sneak the win but IT WILL BE CLOSE.

Ultores top50 got a 20k roid lead over FAnG top50? how is that not a HUGE roid lead?
With the res stockpiled, in prod, in gal fund, and in allie fund Ultores got more score than FAnG got atm, its no denying it.

[Colt]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Ultores top50 got a 20k roid lead over FAnG top50? how is that not a HUGE roid lead?
With the res stockpiled, in prod, in gal fund, and in allie fund Ultores got more score than FAnG got atm, its no denying it.

we don't have a 20k roid lead, maybe you should try working things out before stating crap...

with ALL stocks spent FAnG are still ahead, so yes, I will deny Ultores are leading atm...

[Kaiba]

Tbh with the amount of corp planets FaNG have that severly offsets any roid differential.

B-Butcher why do you come here and talk about things you have no clue of??

Please just accept facts, Ultores isnt withholding the fact its been hiding score the last week, and every post by a Ult member on here has been 99% factually correct regarding it (only 99% because only agar3s is sad enough to have worked out the exact score gain :P)

We could still win, you could still win - CT might even pull a last week coup and screw us both! Who knows... but for once in PA in the closing week of the round, it will be fun finding out!

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Colt

we don't have a 20k roid lead, maybe you should try working things out before stating crap...

with ALL stocks spent FAnG are still ahead, so yes, I will deny Ultores are leading atm...

Stop BSing.
If you had a full tag with that average roid count you would have over 125000, compared to the 90000 FAnG got, that is a HUGE roid lead.
As you got so much controll over how much stock Ultores got hidden under the pillow, please enlight us, how big are you realy?

[Clouds]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I think the return of the block thread would be something close to whining.

I don't really class Kai's 'The return of the block' thread as whining. It was more of a discussion. This is alliance discussions after all, is it not?

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Im pretty sure you are well aware of how much Ultores whined and cried after being pushed down bellow ND, you would have had to be living in a box if u didnt notice it.

Some Ultores members may have whined, but this was kept in house and wasn't voiced on AD (not that I'm aware of anyway).

Not a single Ultores member lost their morale, they kept updating their mydef and sent fleets when called/sms'd, which is the least I can say for FAnG. I refer to below which was recorded on the forth day of the first FAnG gangbang session.

[21:58] <Titos> what ult will do werent the problem...it was a solution that had to be made today
[21:59] <Titos> if not...then all fang had given up tomorrow

So after 4 days (96 ticks) FAnG were ready to 'give up'.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Clouds

I don't really class Kai's 'The return of the block' thread as whining. It was more of a discussion. This is alliance discussions after all, is it not?



Some Ultores members may have whined, but this was kept in house and wasn't voiced on AD (not that I'm aware of anyway).

Not a single Ultores member lost their morale, they kept updating their mydef and sent fleets when called/sms'd, which is the least I can say for FAnG. I refer to below which was recorded on the forth day of the first FAnG gangbang session.

[21:58] <Titos> what ult will do werent the problem...it was a solution that had to be made today
[21:59] <Titos> if not...then all fang had given up tomorrow

So after 4 days (96 ticks) FAnG were ready to 'give up'.

Seeing how you cannot class "Return of the block!!" as a serious AD whine is beyond me.
FAnG fought both the Ultores block and CT, Ultores only fought CT/FAnG, so i think it was two diffrent scenarios. you could prolly gone on for ever sending 350 attack fleets a night on FAnG, but i dont think people would quit, just get less intrested

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

well u could say 2,5x then, to be exact, if you want to be picky.
How am i to know who got the biggest stock before i scan?
FAnG spent their res when they got incs, there is little to none left.
You are looking like a fool when you are trying to deny that ultores are currently in the lead for the race for #1 at tick stop, and they lead by a great great great margine atm.

Seeing as you probably scanned the ones with the most roids in ult to get those number, it doesn't take much of a brain to figure out you scanned the ones with the biggest stocks. And even with you guys having incs, your lead is still growing every day

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Ultores top50 got a 20k roid lead over FAnG top50? how is that not a HUGE roid lead?
With the res stockpiled, in prod, in gal fund, and in allie fund Ultores got more score than FAnG got atm, its no denying it.

Our top50 got a 13k roidlead on you guys, not 20k.

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Seeing how you cannot class "Return of the block!!" as a serious AD whine is beyond me.
FAnG fought both the Ultores block and CT, Ultores only fought CT/FAnG, so i think it was two diffrent scenarios. you could prolly gone on for ever sending 350 attack fleets a night on FAnG, but i dont think people would quit, just get less intrested

We also got hit by app, nd and tgv.

Are you going to deny that too, or claim that didn't happen?

[DrunkenViking]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Ultores only fought CT/FAnG

Congrats.

Eksero, add xVx to that, we hit a couple ult forts pretty hard repeatedly.

[Mzyxptlk]

I'd be interested in seeing planet scans on the top 50 FAng and Ultores planets. Anyone up for donating 3k value worth of scans for the sake of some actual facts on AD?

[eksero]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

I'd be interested in seeing planet scans on the top 50 FAng and Ultores planets. Anyone up for donating 3k value worth of scans for the sake of some actual facts on AD?

http://parser.cthq.net/index.php?groupid=74fa66b59b962c - Ult

http://parser.cthq.net/index.php?groupid=44fa66ca62c49e
http://game.planetarion.com/showscan...2e196rz06fy1qo - Fang

Enjoy!

[Mzyxptlk]

Excellent!

Resources in production:
Ultores: 1 974 901 866
Fang: 1 166 194 484

Resources stockpiled:
Ultores: 2 410 653 676
fAnG: 751 892 666

Assuming all the orders in production are half done (value = resources/125) and no one has Tot, that gives us the following value gain still to go:
Ultores: 3.95m + 8.03m = 11.98m
FAng: 2.33m + 2.51m = 3.84m

For a grand total difference of 8.14m. Their current roid lead will give Ultores another 4.87m value, assuming 60% income bonus on both sides. fANG is currently 16.57m score ahead. In this scenario, if Ultores is to win, they need to cap about 8.9k roids from fanG before round end, though that ignores XP, assumes no one else will cap roids from FaNG, assumes FAnG won't cap roids from anyone, assumes Ultores will only cap from FanG, etc, etc, ad ****ing nauseum.


I would also posit that this is one of the better rounds in recent history.

[Killeah]

thx for that brush-up , awaiting more useless comments from teh FanG prophets

[Mzyxptlk]

In fairness to the fAng prophets, I think that in the current political landscape, Ultores looks to be winning this round. You guys have been gaining about 2k roids a day in the last 3 days, while faNg have been losing about 3k roids a day. If that trend continues, then by round end, the roid count difference will have increased by about 25k: significantly more than the ~17.8k you need.

But that only holds as long as CT doesn't switch sides. I hope you guys are giving them lots of cookies.

P.S. For what it's worth, as far as I'm concerned, it would be a well-deserved win, regardless of whether fanG, Ultores or (unlikely, but who knows) CT wins.

[Blue_Esper]

One tiny variable...."CRASHINGS"

[CBA]

Originally Posted by Blue_Esper

One tiny variable...."CRASHINGS"

Actually there is quite a few variable, refer to mz's earlier post.

I tend to agree, it has been a fantastic round! I am pretty sure this has been my favourite round ever.. To think only last round was my worst round ever!! haha awesome....!!

Hehe, yes... My planet ranking is too hawt. but meh I'd love to know the combined value of ships I've slaughtered this round

Xan/ Defensive Stats/ nerfed salvage.. LOVE IT.

[Colt]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Stop BSing.
If you had a full tag with that average roid count you would have over 125000, compared to the 90000 FAnG got, that is a HUGE roid lead.
As you got so much controll over how much stock Ultores got hidden under the pillow, please enlight us, how big are you realy?

But we don't have a full tag, so your point is infact POINTLESS!

Please refer to mz's posts to find your answer, then please feel free to spout some more crap about how Ultores are MILES AHEAD!!

[Kaiba]

Thats what it will come down to... which alliance has the best last week.

It will be tough for FaNG, defence is far more sapping than attacking. Too many days of being grounded can take its toll on morale, especially as the scores get closer, which they will do.


FaNG is a better foe than anything Ultores has faced in its 4 rounds of PA so far, hats off to them for making it a proper 2 horse race this round (im sorry CT but the level and quickness you shipped roids i cant honestly count you)

The winner will have deserved it the most and hopefully both sides can be good losers and say well done to the winners... whoever that ends up being.

[Buddah]

Originally Posted by Clouds

I don't really class Kai's 'The return of the block' thread as whining. It was more of a discussion. This is alliance discussions after all, is it not?



Some Ultores members may have whined, but this was kept in house and wasn't voiced on AD (not that I'm aware of anyway).

Not a single Ultores member lost their morale, they kept updating their mydef and sent fleets when called/sms'd, which is the least I can say for FAnG. I refer to below which was recorded on the forth day of the first FAnG gangbang session.

The ones that left midround didnt loose their morale?

Originally Posted by Clouds

[21:58] <Titos> what ult will do werent the problem...it was a solution that had to be made today
[21:59] <Titos> if not...then all fang had given up tomorrow

So after 4 days (96 ticks) FAnG were ready to 'give up'.

Congrats you found 1 person saying something on irc!
I bet i can find some proper whine going through irc logs aswell

Come back with a real attempt at flaming!

Hugz & Kissez

[Clouds]

Originally Posted by Buddah

The ones that left midround didnt loose their morale?

Nobody left Ultores midround. If you're referring to Knight's departure, he joined 72 ticks later, and his reason was nothing to do with the amount of morale he or any other Ultores was supposedly suffering.

Originally Posted by Buddah

Congrats you found 1 person saying something on irc!
I bet i can find some proper whine going through irc logs aswell

Come back with a real attempt at flaming!

Hugz & Kissez

That '1' person just so happens to be a FAnG HC.

[alch]

[21:58] <Colt> I'm gay

Haven't we settled in round7 or something to stop quoting IRC logs? They're useless and could easily be forged. No idea where you got Titos quote from - but I can tell you no one in FAnG was ready to give up - far from it.

[CBA]

Originally Posted by clouds

nobody left ultores midround. If you're referring to knight's departure, he joined 72 ticks later, and his reason was nothing to do with the amount of morale he or any other ultores was supposedly suffering.

:d :d :d

[Illusion]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Seeing how you cannot class "Return of the block!!" as a serious AD whine is beyond me.
FAnG fought both the Ultores block and CT, Ultores only fought CT/FAnG, so i think it was two diffrent scenarios. you could prolly gone on for ever sending 350 attack fleets a night on FAnG, but i dont think people would quit, just get less intrested

How can you come up with such insane shit?? It is the EXACT same scenarios!! Ult got hit by FANG/CT/ND/TGV at the same time and had just as many incoming fleets. (25-50 fleets less if they were lucky)
I have never ever in my PA career seeing someone anything near as far from facts and reality as you are! If anyone claimed they belived 10% of what came from you I'd probly lie down and cry my ass off!

[Howzat]

Originally Posted by Clouds

Not a single Ultores member lost their morale, they kept updating their mydef and sent fleets when called/sms'd, which is the least I can say for FAnG. I refer to below which was recorded on the forth day of the first FAnG gangbang session.

[21:58] <Titos> what ult will do werent the problem...it was a solution that had to be made today
[21:59] <Titos> if not...then all fang had given up tomorrow

So after 4 days (96 ticks) FAnG were ready to 'give up'.

Check your own backyard first sunshine. You ladies were requesting a ceasefire over the easter break due to low morale and hc's emoing.

[Blue_Esper]

Originally Posted by Howzat

Check your own backyard first sunshine. You ladies were requesting a ceasefire over the easter break due to low morale and hc's emoing.

yet another political masterstroke by the ultores hc team.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Excellent!

Resources in production:
Ultores: 1 974 901 866
Fang: 1 166 194 484

Resources stockpiled:
Ultores: 2 410 653 676
fAnG: 751 892 666

Assuming all the orders in production are half done (value = resources/125) and no one has Tot, that gives us the following value gain still to go:
Ultores: 3.95m + 8.03m = 11.98m
FAng: 2.33m + 2.51m = 3.84m

For a grand total difference of 8.14m. Their current roid lead will give Ultores another 4.87m value, assuming 60% income bonus on both sides. fANG is currently 16.57m score ahead. In this scenario, if Ultores is to win, they need to cap about 8.9k roids from fanG before round end, though that ignores XP, assumes no one else will cap roids from FaNG, assumes FAnG won't cap roids from anyone, assumes Ultores will only cap from FanG, etc, etc, ad ****ing nauseum.


I would also posit that this is one of the better rounds in recent history.

Im gonna quote you on this one, when the round ends, we will see how close you actualy were. If we will see that you were far off, and Ultores will beat FAnG with what i said they would be glad if you just deleted your forums account and stayed the fck away from here
Anyone still beliving its a neck and neck race between Ultores and FAnG atm should have their heads examined.
And to those that are saying that CT needs to hit FAnG to win

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Illusion

How can you come up with such insane shit?? It is the EXACT same scenarios!! Ult got hit by FANG/CT/ND/TGV at the same time and had just as many incoming fleets. (25-50 fleets less if they were lucky)
I have never ever in my PA career seeing someone anything near as far from facts and reality as you are! If anyone claimed they belived 10% of what came from you I'd probly lie down and cry my ass off!

We will see when the round end who had incomming fleets and who didnt.
I think ultores has had more incomming over the round, but im pretty sure FAnG is pretty close to them.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Im gonna quote you on this one, when the round ends, we will see how close you actualy were. If we will see that you were far off, and Ultores will beat FAnG with what i said they would be glad if you just deleted your forums account and stayed the fck away from here
Anyone still beliving its a neck and neck race between Ultores and FAnG atm should have their heads examined.
And to those that are saying that CT needs to hit FAnG to win

The post you quotes contains no opinions, only facts. It does not say it will be close, and in fact does not attempt to make any predictions.

However, the next one, that you skipped, did. This confuses me, because in it, I come about as close as I've ever been to agreeing with you. Try reading what I said there:

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

I think that in the current political landscape, Ultores looks to be winning this round.

On the bright side, at least that means your horrendous AD record isn't a matter of malice, but simple incompetence: if you don't actually read your opponents' posts, it is pretty hard to come up with decent replies to them.

P.S. In fact, I challenge you to find any post of mine in which I say Ultores won't win this round. You might find one, but I sincerily doubt it.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

The post you quotes contains no opinions, only facts. It does not say it will be close, and in fact does not attempt to make any predictions.

However, the next one, that you skipped, did. This confuses me, because in it, I come about as close as I've ever been to agreeing with you. Try reading what I said there:

On the bright side, at least that means your horrendous AD record isn't a matter of malice, but simple incompetence: if you don't actually read your opponents' posts, it is pretty hard to come up with decent replies to them.

P.S. In fact, I challenge you to find any post of mine in which I say Ultores won't win this round. You might find one, but I sincerily doubt it.

Ultores is winning by a large margin, not because they take 2k roids of FAnG the rest of the round, but by the fact they allready got more roids on the countign players, and they got more stock than FAnG does.

[Mzyxptlk]

Wrong again. Seems like you not only skipped the second post, but failed to read the first one too. Ultores' stockpile and roid count at the time were not enough to overtake your lead. This is not actually in dispute, the facts are extremely clear on this.

The only way my first post on this subject is going to turn out wrong is if 1) I made a simple mistake, 2) multiplication and addition are fundamentally broken, or 3) eksero provided me with tampered scans.

If it's 1, point out my mistake. If it's 2, go claim a Field's Medal. If it's 3, provide scans of your own and I will check those too.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Wrong again. Seems like you not only skipped the second post, but failed to read the first one too. Ultores' stockpile and roid count at the time were not enough to overtake your lead. This is not actually in dispute, the facts are extremely clear on this.

The only way my first post on this subject is going to turn out wrong is if 1) I made a simple mistake, 2) multiplication and addition are fundamentally broken, or 3) eksero provided me with tampered scans.

If it's 1, point out my mistake. If it's 2, go claim a Field's Medal. If it's 3, provide scans of your own and I will check those too.

"For a grand total difference of 8.14m. Their current roid lead will give Ultores another 4.87m value, assuming 60% income bonus on both sides. fANG is currently 16.57m score ahead. In this scenario, if Ultores is to win, they need to cap about 8.9k roids from fanG before round end, though that ignores XP, assumes no one else will cap roids from FaNG, assumes FAnG won't cap roids from anyone, assumes Ultores will only cap from FanG, etc, etc, ad ****ing nauseum."

How read it, FAnG is 16 million ahead of Ultores when all res is spent?
When i look at alliance rankings atm FAnG is only 6millions ahead of Ultores, having more than 400 less average roids, do you still belive that it will be neck and neck?

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

"For a grand total difference of 8.14m. Their current roid lead will give Ultores another 4.87m value, assuming 60% income bonus on both sides. fANG is currently 16.57m score ahead. In this scenario, if Ultores is to win, they need to cap about 8.9k roids from fanG before round end, though that ignores XP, assumes no one else will cap roids from FaNG, assumes FAnG won't cap roids from anyone, assumes Ultores will only cap from FanG, etc, etc, ad ****ing nauseum."

How read it, FAnG is 16 million ahead of Ultores when all res is spent?
When i look at alliance rankings atm FAnG is only 6millions ahead of Ultores, having more than 400 less average roids, do you still belive that it will be neck and neck?

He said currently, which means at the time he wrote the post.
And it is only 100 ticks left, those extra roids we have wont generate more than 5-6m or so score.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

He said currently, which means at the time he wrote the post.
And it is only 100 ticks left, those extra roids we have wont generate more than 5-6m or so score.

The top50 ultores got 20k more roids than the top50 FAnG as of yesterday.
How can u make that out to be 6 million?
Either Mz is in cohort with the Ultores trolls, or he is blind.

[Blue_Esper]

or you're just stupid

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Blue_Esper

or you're just stupid

I dont think so.
Mz should stick to trolling.
Looking through post, quoting, trying to find condtradicions, looking for spelling errors, linking to wikipedia for explainations of words, trying to look smart and witty is what he does best.
He should clearly stay away from what ever concerns the game, and not try give his scientifical knowledge to determinaine a winner a shot.
If he realy knew anything about how the game works, he would be screaming out loudly that Ultores is running away with the victory, with ease.
But then again, i suspect that he is in cohorts with teh ultores trolls :crymeariver:

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

The top50 ultores got 20k more roids than the top50 FAnG as of yesterday.
How can u make that out to be 6 million?
Either Mz is in cohort with the Ultores trolls, or he is blind.

I just checked, and heres the result for the top50:

71364 - fang
86519 - Ult

That's 15k, you can do the math yourself!

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

I just checked, and heres the result for the top50:

71364 - fang
86519 - Ult

That's 15k, you can do the math yourself!

I just checked before i posted, not that exact down to the last roids, but i found it out to be around 19k.
Assuming that FAnG will keep up the losing rate, and ultores the capping rate, it will be 20k soon.

[MiX]

Only a couple more days and then we will see who was right! It'll be best for whoever is wrong, since they'll be the ones actually winning the round...

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I just checked before i posted, not that exact down to the last roids, but i found it out to be around 19k.
Assuming that FAnG will keep up the losing rate, and ultores the capping rate, it will be 20k soon.

You obviously didn't check your bot then, as these are the numbers from there:

Size: 71364
Size: 86595

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

You obviously didn't check your bot then, as these are the numbers from there:

Size: 71364
Size: 86595

I didnt use the bot no.
My method of counting was counting all the ones below top50, and then remove that number of the total number of roids. But then again, all intel dosnt have to me right etc etc.

[neroon]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I dont think so.
Mz should stick to trolling.
Looking through post, quoting, trying to find condtradicions, looking for spelling errors, linking to wikipedia for explainations of words, trying to look smart and witty is what he does best.
He should clearly stay away from what ever concerns the game, and not try give his scientifical knowledge to determinaine a winner a shot.
If he realy knew anything about how the game works, he would be screaming out loudly that Ultores is running away with the victory, with ease.
But then again, i suspect that he is in cohorts with teh ultores trolls :crymeariver:

yeah.. everyone should just stop hittin fang and grant em the victory instead, which is totally undeserved :P good one

i know its bitter to have incomings in a war game, but deal with it.. u had ure chance to secure the win for most of the round - u had ure allies under ure command for gangin ultores for most of the round, u had possibilities to secure ure win, yet u failed.. now deal with it, dont just go out there and cry and whine about ppl hittin ure fatties..

next time, try to do ure politics smarter and actually try to be better ureselves.. u had ALOT of time to whore value and prepare for this, yet u failed..

Ultores will have a very tough time to win this, as its going to be so close in the end, but i really hope we can manage it.. since ure the most least deserving alliance for the win atm :P

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

"For a grand total difference of 8.14m. Their current roid lead will give Ultores another 4.87m value, assuming 60% income bonus on both sides. fANG is currently 16.57m score ahead. In this scenario, if Ultores is to win, they need to cap about 8.9k roids from fanG before round end, though that ignores XP, assumes no one else will cap roids from FaNG, assumes FAnG won't cap roids from anyone, assumes Ultores will only cap from FanG, etc, etc, ad ****ing nauseum."

How read it, FAnG is 16 million ahead of Ultores when all res is spent?

Wrong. Again. Try reading all of the words before you spew this kind of retarded nonsense all over it.

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

do you still belive that it will be neck and neck?

No, I've said something completely different than that, twice now. Here's the third time, suitably emphasized, though I seriously doubt if it'll get through your reinforced concrete skull, no matter how often I say it: I think Ultores will win.

But hey, keep sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "I CAN'T HEAR YOU". I still don't quite understand why you're wasting your time arguing with someone who (for once, and accidentally, I'm sure!) has the same opinion as you, but be my guest.

Originally Posted by eksero

You obviously didn't check your bot then, as these are the numbers from there:

Size: 71364
Size: 86595

Contradicted by your own intel. Words cannot describe how amused I am right now.

Keep at it, BB, I'm sure you'll win out in the end! Never give up, never surrender!

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I didnt use the bot no.
My method of counting was counting all the ones below top50, and then remove that number of the total number of roids. But then again, all intel dosnt have to me right etc etc.

It doesn't have to be right no. But when 2 alliances intel are about the same (76 roids difference) it suggests it is pretty much spot on.