Ascendancy ‘giving something back’

[Game^]

Many people on these boards have often critcised Asc for abusing/exploiting the community, well this is our gift back to you.

*Note this post is from our point of view, and we don’t require any ‘correction’ on any of the points, if you wish to do that start a new thread, all we require is your vote*

The story

To cut a long story short, as I’m sure many of you are aware ND/VGN have been fighting Denial for a while, this stopped a few days ago as Denial are not exactly ‘fighting fit’ anymore. Before this stopped we had approached CT about hitting ND as we were worried about a ND/VGN combo starting to run away with the round. CT accepted this was required, but didn’t want to do anything. A week passed by and CT grew very fat, even fatter than us! So we re-assessed the situation and now placed CT as the #1 competition to the top spot. We then talked with Denial/ND who agreed that a one night hit on CT could be co-ordinated, in order to bring their roids down to the level of ND/Denial (we have less members we need more roids to catch you!).

ND at mid day today pulled out, citing the reason they weren’t ‘ready’. Well fantastic we thought what a complete waste of time. So being the nice souls we are, we offered CT the same option we offered ND, having CT/Asc/Denial hit ND. CT have also rejected this, as they apparently can’t trust us as we planned to maybe attack with ND first or something.

The point

So we at Ascendancy have come to the conclusion that with no wars we can’t win, and also with no wars its boring as hell, so here is the proposal. We believe that ND and CT are silly for rejecting our proposals, and seem to want to ‘wait it out’. Well screw that, so this is where you come in. This thread is a poll for YOU the community to decide who we Ascendancy hit. Now the options are limited to CT or ND, and to be honest we aren’t really fussed which you pick. So there you go vote away! The thread results will be taken 48 hours from now, and then acted upon!

Disclaimer

Should ND/CT suddenly decide they want to work with us upto 16 hours before the poll ends we will accept the alliance that approaches us first, close the poll and declare it as so.

Happy Voting

The Asc Team!

[Raging.Retard]

I'll hit your mum.

[Recluse]

Nd

[SUFC]

ND
CT will lose the roids anyway before round ends

[lokken]

I'm amused.

You've got 48 hours.

[DrunkenViking]

No "Self destruct"-option?

[lokken]

Originally Posted by DrunkenViking

No "Self destruct"-option?

They seem to be serious in intent, so no 'lol your mum' option has been provided.

[[JungleMuffin]]

3) Not JungleMuffin

[[JungleMuffin]]

Awesome move tho, by pointing the cannon at ND or CT, asc is out of the sights.... nice

CT, just cos theyre lubbleh

[Mzyxptlk]

CT has Ronin. Two birds. One stone.

Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]

Awesome move tho, by pointing the cannon at ND or CT, asc is out of the sights.... nice

Yeah. Ascendancy is out of the sights of... Ascendancy. Good one.

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

CT has Ronin. Two birds. One stone.


Yeah. Ascendancy is out of the sights of... Ascendancy. Good one.

Or perhaps more like if Asc is teaming WITH Denial + CT/ND, then theyre not being teamed BY Denial + CT/ND?

/me gives MZ a hug, awwwwww

The Ministry/Ronin lemming run can be brought forward a bit perhaps D:

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]

Or perhaps more like if Asc is teaming WITH Denial + CT/ND, then theyre not being teamed BY Denial + CT/ND?

/me gives MZ a hug, awwwwww

The Ministry/Ronin lemming run can be brought forward a bit perhaps D:

Its the asc way of not being hit

[VenoX]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Its the asc way of not being hit

Whats CT's way of not being hit? Except from doing nothing. Ever.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by VenoX

Whats CT's way of not being hit? Except from doing nothing. Ever.

That's not fair VenoX. Galraiding is not nothing.

Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]

Or perhaps more like if Asc is teaming WITH Denial + CT/ND, then theyre not being teamed BY Denial + CT/ND?

Denial? Who said anything about Denial? Are you making things up again?

[SUFC]

Denial/Asc vs ND/CT/roids/Ronin = 4 birds with 1 stone

[DragonKing]

CT most definitely

[BlueArmy]

4) JungleMuffin

Why do we in asc always have the hatred for ronin and his allies? Typical asc!

[jerome]

ct/nd to hit asc (game!)

[lokken]

Originally Posted by jerome

ct/nd to hit asc (game!)

but is it?

I mean really, CT or ND have the power to end this poll nonsense if they really want to (although I'm fully in support of the poll).

Let us suppose they both hit ascendancy. In the end the loser of the poll is going to be hit hard on the last few days and will be at risk of losing planetarion because Ascendancy will have every reason to save their fleets to hit the loser of the poll. I have no doubt that if the clock ticks to 48 hours and neither alliance does anything to stop it, Ascendancy will carry out their threat to the letter, regardless of the outcome because they have nothing to lose here.

So ultimately, while hitting Ascendancy is certainly an option, it comes with the risk to being at the mercy of a poll on AD (needless to say, I am looking out for any kind of abuse to this poll) and ultimately losing. I mean, if you're hitting Ascendancy but losing in the poll, why would you not attempt to seek a settlement? If you're winning, why would you hit an alliance that ultimately, could help you kill off your opponent with ease?

Naturally, there are several permutations and having thought them through, the risks to either of not doing anything are certainly quite real. I'm amused to see how the HC of either alliance will react.

I have no preference for either for the record as my involvement in the round so far is minimal and it's not really for me to judge or determine how my alliance decides to behave. But like many in Ascendancy, I like a good social experiment, and this one seems as good as any.

[Nestorn]

Originally Posted by lokken

but is it?

I mean really, CT or ND have the power to end this poll nonsense if they really want to (although I'm fully in support of the poll).

Let us suppose they both hit ascendancy. In the end the loser of the poll is going to be hit hard on the last few days and will be at risk of losing planetarion because Ascendancy will have every reason to save their fleets to hit the loser of the poll. I have no doubt that if the clock ticks to 48 hours and neither alliance does anything to stop it, Ascendancy will carry out their threat to the letter, regardless of the outcome because they have nothing to lose here.

So ultimately, while hitting Ascendancy is certainly an option, it comes with the risk to being at the mercy of a poll on AD (needless to say, I am looking out for any kind of abuse to this poll) and ultimately losing. I mean, if you're hitting Ascendancy but losing in the poll, why would you not attempt to seek a settlement? If you're winning, why would you hit an alliance that ultimately, could help you kill off your opponent with ease?

Naturally, there are several permutations and having thought them through, the risks to either of not doing anything are certainly quite real. I'm amused to see how the HC of either alliance will react.

I have no preference for either for the record as my involvement in the round so far is minimal and it's not really for me to judge or determine how my alliance decides to behave. But like many in Ascendancy, I like a good social experiment, and this one seems as good as any.

tbh, cant see asc dishing up something worse than when i logged in this morning.

so

/care

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by Nestorn

Theyre the only worthy war opponents there is tho. Rest of the allys seems to wanna low profile it all the way in........

Takes 2 to tango.

Originally Posted by Nestorn

tbh, cant see asc dishing up something worse than when i logged in this morning.

so

/care

By now I'd have thought people would have learned that annoying Ascendancy is rarely a good idea.

[Bible]

I voted CT i wanna ROID Ronin xx

And them fenceing allround like noobs ftl Atleast ND had some bottle to fight

[LukeyLove]

I love the disclaimer

[Turtle]

Surely Asc is good enough to take out both ND and CT by itself, should be an option for this imo.

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Turtle

Surely Asc is good enough to take out both ND and CT by itself, should be an option for this imo.

Given the nature of Game's first post I don't think they are really caring for that option even if they might think they could play it that way.

Next question please!

[General Martok]

I voted ND. Gimme your shippies Asc scum

[Kargool]

I refuse to hit anything that Game organizes.

[MaVeRiXX]

Nice try, ASC propaganda working over time here. U guyz rock with drawing attention away.

Sad thing is, that most likely lots of dumb asses will fall for it.

Cheers

[rasputini]

Originally Posted by MaVeRiXX

Nice try, ASC propaganda working over time here. U guyz rock with drawing attention away.

Sad thing is, that most likely lots of dumb asses will fall for it.

Cheers

MaVerRiXX, please explain how asking people who we should hit draws attention away from us? Would you recommend we offer the option of us hitting ourselves as mz pointed out others were recommending earlier?

On a side note, looks like there is a contender with a healthy lead so far. I do so like having my decisions made for me.

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by rasputini

Would you recommend we offer the option of us hitting ourselves as mz pointed out others were recommending earlier?

YES!

I propose Asc split and reform as 2 BG(ish) sized allies. The members of each ally recruited either via Asc Draft Day, or a factional split. Once youve got your teams, you go forth and destroy, FUN. Asc gets what they want, fun, a propper style war and they dont have to deal with epic fail ND HC's.

I'll even offer my own services. I can picture it now, The JungleMuffin JackHammer's Vs Mz's Mongoloids.

So, when can you start?

[MaVeRiXX]

Originally Posted by rasputini

MaVerRiXX, please explain how asking people who we should hit draws attention away from us? Would you recommend we offer the option of us hitting ourselves as mz pointed out others were recommending earlier?

On a side note, looks like there is a contender with a healthy lead so far. I do so like having my decisions made for me.

C'mon dont act innocent here m8, ive been around too long to get fooled.
We all have seen ASC pulling smart tricks out the sleeves tru the rounds. If you ask me, nothing but respect for that!

But ok, ill take the time to explain myself.

My prediction

-ND or CT win this poll

-ASC, winner of the poll & friends pwns the loser of the poll

-ASC declares war to their temporarely allie (most likely a week before roundend)

-ASC take the lead and let out a shitload of hidden prod

-ASC bragging about how great they played this round and how stupid the rest is for not seeing ASC as a real contender for #1.

-I win cuzz ASC succeeded to draw away attention from theirselff to ND and CT as the main contenders for the round win.

Oh...and all of this ofc to make the game fun and more interesting, yea right

[Game^]

I seriously despair at how stupid and paranoid a minority of this community are. Lets go through a few things shall we.

Originally Posted by MaVeRiXX

C'mon dont act innocent here m8, ive been around too long to get fooled.
We all have seen ASC pulling smart tricks out the sleeves tru the rounds. If you ask me, nothing but respect for that!

But ok, ill take the time to explain myself.

My prediction

-ND or CT win this poll

That's a fantastic prediction, thanks for that!

-ASC, winner of the poll & friends pwns the loser of the poll

Whether or not we have 'friends' to help us hit the 'winner' of the poll depends on other alliances not on ascendancy. However if CT lose the poll I'd imagine people will be lining up to help us, but that's another matter.

-ASC declares war to their temporarely allie (most likely a week before roundend)

That will depend on the circumstances of whether we have a chance to win after we have ensured the 'winner' of the poll has no chance themselves. This poll is a result of other alliances not wanting to give us a chance of winning ourselves, so it makes sense to me that we therefore remove the 'winners' chance in return.

-ASC take the lead and let out a shitload of hidden prod

There's a new option called 'Planet scan', which shows exactly what hidden production planets have, and I say with absolute confidence that Asc will have no more hidden prod than CT/ND, never mind enough to actually make up a 10million gap through it. Prove me wrong, scan us all and come back with the figures!

-ASC bragging about how great they played this round and how stupid the rest is for not seeing ASC as a real contender for #1.

-I win cuzz ASC succeeded to draw away attention from theirselff to ND and CT as the main contenders for the round win.

Oh...and all of this ofc to make the game fun and more interesting, yea right

I believe if Asc win, Asc will be saying how poorly certain alliances played the entire situation, not the 'master strokes' that they pulled off themselves.

As far as interesting goes, what would you prefer? The top alliances to just carry on galaxy raiding?

[Riddim]

Lousy propaganda

[exblade]

im all for hitting CT

[Zotnam]

Oh dear god, did you learn nothing at all from last round? Hitting asc will only make people more active and now you went ahead and did it anyway :/

[Benneh]

Personally after tonights mass incs i dont mind who we hit but to be fair i think we should start with ND.

We all know when it comes to CT we just have to hit ronin and the rest of the ally is freeforalllll

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by Benneh

Personally after tonights mass incs i dont mind who we hit but to be fair i think we should start with ND.

We all know when it comes to CT we just have to hit ronin and the rest of the ally is freeforalllll

Congratulations Benneh, youve just been chosen as the #1 draft pick.

[Nestorn]

Originally Posted by Benneh

Personally after tonights mass incs i dont mind who we hit but to be fair i think we should start with ND.

We all know when it comes to CT we just have to hit ronin and the rest of the ally is freeforalllll

Pls do, and this time, come alone on your waves. Not peggyd by 6 other alliances

[[JungleMuffin]]

With several Asc members refuting any claims that this thread is an attempt to either remove Asc from the proverbial hot seat or prevent them finding themselves there, it leads me to believe that Asc have/had nothing to gain from this, be it politically or on the scoreboard, whatsoever. I would like to commend our community elected "game keepers" for being above all the petty self interest that we find the rest of the Planetarian community to be constantly succumbing to.

Thankyou Ascendancy for keeping our interests in mind when making your political decisions, its such hard and thankless work, yet you do it for nothing other than "fun." Once again, thankyou.

Ascendancy: Real nice guys.

[JonnyBGood]

Can I have some names please junglemuffin so I can kick them out of ascendancy for being completely retarded.

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Can I have some names please junglemuffin so I can kick them out of ascendancy for being completely retarded.

I was going to say a PA Power Player never reveals his sources, but lets face it, im not one, so ill be honest, it was BlueArmy.

I can even fake some logs if ud like.

[Kargool]

Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]

With several Asc members refuting any claims that this thread is an attempt to either remove Asc from the proverbial hot seat or prevent them finding themselves there, it leads me to believe that Asc have/had nothing to gain from this, be it politically or on the scoreboard, whatsoever. I would like to commend our community elected "game keepers" for being above all the petty self interest that we find the rest of the Planetarian community to be constantly succumbing to.

Thankyou Ascendancy for keeping our interests in mind when making your political decisions, its such hard and thankless work, yet you do it for nothing other than "fun." Once again, thankyou.

Ascendancy: Real nice guys.

I've been in asc this and last round, and I can assue you 100% that there is no way in hell Ascendancy is in any shape capable of winning this round. As we speak one of our biggest scores have set himself for deletion, another of our big planets left tag after getting negative review of his target assignment, and when he came back in he crashed his fleet. We simply suck this round.

Personally I blame Game. But then again, who says blaming others have ever worked. I've been shit aswell!


Oh and Nestorn, please refer from writing anymore on AD or I will have to break into your house and steal your keyboard.

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by Kargool

I've been in asc this and last round, and I can assue you 100% that there is no way in hell Ascendancy is in any shape capable of winning this round. As we speak one of our biggest scores have set himself for deletion, another of our big planets left tag after getting negative review of his target assignment, and when he came back in he crashed his fleet. We simply suck this round.

All the more reason to suspect you guys are up to something :/

Originally Posted by Zotnam

Funny though, if you look at the roid graphs alliance wise, you'll notice ct haven't gotten hit big one single time.. but ofc, asc are the sneaky political bastards that never get inc !!12

Even Asc members are acknowledging their deviousness. Admit it, you guys framed O.J.

[Riddim]

1:1 galaxybanner is just .. funny

[Vladel]

Pointless thread tbh

[Nestorn]

Originally Posted by Kargool

Oh and Nestorn, please refer from writing anymore on AD or I will have to break into your house and steal your keyboard.

Behave now I havent dissed a single asc member, and nor would i

[Veedeejem!]

Who cares what Asc decides to hit, they're gonna win the round anyway.

[Ghostwkd]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

Who cares what Asc decides to hit, they're gonna win the round anyway.

With help from the official PA roid farms that are 1:1 bot planets

1:1 most attackers by gal: #1 gal.
1:1 most attackers by ally: #1 ally last round.

really helping newbies those 1:1 bots

[jerome]

late starting rulz

[[JungleMuffin]]

Originally Posted by jerome

late starting rulz

Youve single handedly managed to hit 1:1 105 times?!